The (A.) verb uses whatever argument you pass it. But the language is
modular -- parsing of numbers is independent of (happens before)
whatever operation(s) they will be used in.

So I think you are asking about the conversion table at
https://www.jsoftware.com/help/dictionary/dictg.htm

One issue here is that when dealing with large arrays, extended
precision integers are slow to work with, and counter-productive.

There are, of course, contexts where extended integers are preferred
(such as your example here). And, it's relatively straightforward to
specify their use for those cases.

-- 
Raul

On Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 12:51 AM Ak O <akin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thank you.
>
> Just another small question.
>
>
> For what reason other than speed does (x A. y) use anything other than
> extended for the 'x' input? Other than integer, doesn't everything else
> lead to inconsistent outputs (i.e. an incorrect  permutation selection)?
>
> I am not sure of the different ways people use this operator but maybe some
> other examples might help me understand more clearly.
>
> Thank you all again.
>
> Ak
>
>
>
>
> On Fri., Aug. 11, 2023, 21:05 'Pascal Jasmin' via Programming, <
> programm...@jsoftware.com> wrote:
>
> >  if you (or a user) are calling your function from J code, add the x to
> > any "literal numbers".
> > If your very large number is the result of a calculation, then you can
> > ensure that it is returned as extended.
> > If the input comes from elsewhere/other program, then pass it as a string.
> >
> > ".@,&'x' '1239810239812039812039812039180319283019283'
> >
> > 1239810239812039812039812039180319283019283
> >
> >
> >     On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 08:29:47 p.m. EDT, Ak O <
> > akin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >  For me,
> > (x: y)
> > does not preserve the input.
> >
> > The result I get is not the same.
> >
> >
> >           ( x:180548043269214561950911457875657 )
> >  180548043269214573494164592263168
> > This does not work.
> >
> >
> >
> >           180548043269214561950911457875657x
> > 180548043269214561950911457875657
> > This does work.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri., Aug. 11, 2023, 13:01 Henry Rich, <henryhr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > (x: value) produces extended version of value.
> > >
> > > Henry Rich
> > >
> > > On Fri, Aug 11, 2023, 2:44 PM Ak O <akin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi everybody, I hope you are all well.
> > > >
> > > > I have a question about the Anagram ( A. ) operator.
> > > >
> > > > In a defined function, how do I designate that an input 'x' is
> > treatment
> > > > as  extended datatype rather than float?
> > > >
> > > > Where being defined:
> > > >      13 : ' x A. i.y'
> > > > [ A. [: i. ]
> > > >
> > > >  is to be taken as,
> > > >      13 : 'X_INPUTx A. y'    NB. 12345672345467x A. i.y
> > > >
> > > > How do I get the affect of catenating an 'x' to the end of a number in
> > a
> > > > defined function?
> > > >
> > > > If you understand my question ignore below, otherwise I give an
> > example.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for your thoughts.
> > > >
> > > > Ak
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > My understanding of the Anagram operator (A.).
> > > > The vocabulary reference page (acapdot) gives the product of the
> > Anagram
> > > > index function
> > > >    A. y
> > > > as datatype extended.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The Anagram function
> > > >    x A. y
> > > > applies the permutation map (x) on  ordered vector sequence (y) as
> > below.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ]    vector_sequence =:      ?~30
> > > > 20 12 4 29 7 17 22 11 2 27 28 23 6 21 9 3 24 10 26 13 15 1 18 8 25 19
> > 0 5
> > > > 16 14
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ]    vector_anagram =:    A. vector_sequence
> > > > 180548043269214561950911457875657
> > > >
> > > > The Noun, vector_anagram will have datatype extended, given by:
> > > >    datatype vector_anagram
> > > > extended
> > > >
> > > > Applying the vector_anagram on a vector using the command:
> > > >      vector_anagram A. i.30
> > > > 20 12 4 29 7 17 22 11 2 27 28 23 6 21 9 3 24 10 26 13 15 1 18 8 25 19
> > 0 5
> > > > 16 14
> > > >
> > > > The expected result.
> > > >
> > > > In a case where the digits are input on there own, the following fails
> > > with
> > > > 'domain error, executing dyad A.'
> > > >
> > > >      180548043269214561950911457875657 A. i.30
> > > >
> > > > One approach is to place 'x:' before the input.
> > > >      ( x:180548043269214561950911457875657 )A. i.30
> > > > 20 12 4 29 7 17 22 11 2 27 28 25 1 8 0 15 16 14 3 5 19 26 18 6 21 23 13
> > > 24
> > > > 9 10
> > > >
> > > > This is not the expected result.
> > > >
> > > > The input is treated as 180548043269214573494164592263168.
> > > >
> > > >      ( x:180548043269214561950911457875657 )
> > > > 180548043269214573494164592263168
> > > >
> > > > Not the input I thought I was applying.
> > > >
> > > > An alternative is to postfix an 'x' to the end of the input.
> > > >      180548043269214561950911457875657x A. i.30
> > > > 20 12 4 29 7 17 22 11 2 27 28 23 6 21 9 3 24 10 26 13 15 1 18 8 25 19
> > 0 5
> > > > 16 14
> > > >
> > > > The expected result. But how do I achieve this for a defined function.
> > > >
> > > > Does not work either.
> > > > ".@((":vector_anagram),x')"_    NB. same as x:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Maybe there is a symbol that 13 : can be recognize to trigger the
> > > extended
> > > > datatype.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for your help.
> > > >
> > > > Ak
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