What expression allows a function to recieve an argument 'y' as a literal without using quotes?
Below are two deficient functions. The size of the vector is given by 'x'. The permutation index is meant to be given by 'y'. My intention is treat 'y' as a literal, without needing to use quotes on the input. This first function works by escaping to the keyboard for input I would like rather for the function to receive the input from the raw argument and not have to escape to the keyboard. Desired Input 30 extd 180548043269214561950911457875657 Rather than 30 extd '180548043269214561950911457875657' This function is deficient by its operating sequence. It escapes to keyboard, which preservs the literal type. extd =: 4 : 0 n=. ((1!:1) 1 ((".@,&'x' n)) A. i. x ) 30 extd 180548043269214561950911457875657 Keyboard input (if this approach makes sense, can the keyboard input be simulated by using y as the feed?) 180548043269214561950911457875657 Result 20 12 4 29 7 17 22 11 2 27 28 23 6 21 9 3 24 10 26 13 15 1 18 8 25 19 0 5 16 14 Alternative deficient function by the input form. Yields the correct result but uses quotes in the input. extdquotes =: 4 : 0 ((".@,&'x' n)) A. i. x ) 30 extdquotes '180548043269214561950911457875657' Result 20 12 4 29 7 17 22 11 2 27 28 23 6 21 9 3 24 10 26 13 15 1 18 8 25 19 0 5 16 14 I am looking for the function that uses the input for extd that delivers the result of extdquotes Thank you for your help Ak On Sat., Aug. 12, 2023, 13:43 Henry Rich, <henryhr...@gmail.com> wrote: > It's like this: > > /long-number/ is a single word. If the length is <19 digits, it is an > integer, otherwise a float (which necessarily has only 16 digits of > precision). > > /long-number/x is a single word, but it is always an extended integer, > and every digit of /long-number/ is preserved. > > x: /number/ is two words. /number/ is evaluated first, and then x: is > applied to its value to give an extended integer. > > In that last case, if /number/ has more than 19 digits, it will have > been represented as a float, and the extended integer will have only 16 > digits of precision. > > Henry Rich > > On 8/12/2023 3:25 PM, Ak O wrote: > > My thought was that 'x' must always be extended by definition. > > > > I was trying to think what cases this operator's 'x' argument would not > be > > strictly extended. > > > > Chris demonstrated that the input 'x' in my example is float by > > construction. > > > > Raul explained that the parser treats the number before it treats the > > operator ( if I have understood his message correctly). > > > > So if I have understood all of this correctly. As a raw input, it is the > > extended representation of the float input 'x' that is actually what is > > being operated on by A. to yield the result. > > > > > > > > Ak > > > > > > On Sat., Aug. 12, 2023, 11:34 Henry Rich, <henryhr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> I misunderstood your question. > >> > >> (x A. y) starts by verifying that (*./ (|x) < !.#y) and then converts x > >> to a permutation with > >> (i.@-&.<: y) #: x > >> (all in extended precision if x is extended), followed by a number of > >> rotations within an index vector. It is much less work to start with > >> the permutation vector rather than the anagram index. > >> > >> Henry Rich > >> > >> On 8/11/2023 8:29 PM, Ak O wrote: > >>> For me, > >>> (x: y) > >>> does not preserve the input. > >>> > >>> The result I get is not the same. > >>> > >>> > >>> ( x:180548043269214561950911457875657 ) > >>> 180548043269214573494164592263168 > >>> This does not work. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> 180548043269214561950911457875657x > >>> 180548043269214561950911457875657 > >>> This does work. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Fri., Aug. 11, 2023, 13:01 Henry Rich, <henryhr...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>> > >>>> (x: value) produces extended version of value. > >>>> > >>>> Henry Rich > >>>> > >>>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2023, 2:44 PM Ak O <akin...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Hi everybody, I hope you are all well. > >>>>> > >>>>> I have a question about the Anagram ( A. ) operator. > >>>>> > >>>>> In a defined function, how do I designate that an input 'x' is > >> treatment > >>>>> as extended datatype rather than float? > >>>>> > >>>>> Where being defined: > >>>>> 13 : ' x A. i.y' > >>>>> [ A. [: i. ] > >>>>> > >>>>> is to be taken as, > >>>>> 13 : 'X_INPUTx A. y' NB. 12345672345467x A. i.y > >>>>> > >>>>> How do I get the affect of catenating an 'x' to the end of a number > in > >> a > >>>>> defined function? > >>>>> > >>>>> If you understand my question ignore below, otherwise I give an > >> example. > >>>>> Thank you for your thoughts. > >>>>> > >>>>> Ak > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> My understanding of the Anagram operator (A.). > >>>>> The vocabulary reference page (acapdot) gives the product of the > >> Anagram > >>>>> index function > >>>>> A. y > >>>>> as datatype extended. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> The Anagram function > >>>>> x A. y > >>>>> applies the permutation map (x) on ordered vector sequence (y) as > >> below. > >>>>> > >>>>> ] vector_sequence =: ?~30 > >>>>> 20 12 4 29 7 17 22 11 2 27 28 23 6 21 9 3 24 10 26 13 15 1 18 8 25 19 > >> 0 5 > >>>>> 16 14 > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ] vector_anagram =: A. vector_sequence > >>>>> 180548043269214561950911457875657 > >>>>> > >>>>> The Noun, vector_anagram will have datatype extended, given by: > >>>>> datatype vector_anagram > >>>>> extended > >>>>> > >>>>> Applying the vector_anagram on a vector using the command: > >>>>> vector_anagram A. i.30 > >>>>> 20 12 4 29 7 17 22 11 2 27 28 23 6 21 9 3 24 10 26 13 15 1 18 8 25 19 > >> 0 5 > >>>>> 16 14 > >>>>> > >>>>> The expected result. > >>>>> > >>>>> In a case where the digits are input on there own, the following > fails > >>>> with > >>>>> 'domain error, executing dyad A.' > >>>>> > >>>>> 180548043269214561950911457875657 A. i.30 > >>>>> > >>>>> One approach is to place 'x:' before the input. > >>>>> ( x:180548043269214561950911457875657 )A. i.30 > >>>>> 20 12 4 29 7 17 22 11 2 27 28 25 1 8 0 15 16 14 3 5 19 26 18 6 21 23 > 13 > >>>> 24 > >>>>> 9 10 > >>>>> > >>>>> This is not the expected result. > >>>>> > >>>>> The input is treated as 180548043269214573494164592263168. > >>>>> > >>>>> ( x:180548043269214561950911457875657 ) > >>>>> 180548043269214573494164592263168 > >>>>> > >>>>> Not the input I thought I was applying. > >>>>> > >>>>> An alternative is to postfix an 'x' to the end of the input. > >>>>> 180548043269214561950911457875657x A. i.30 > >>>>> 20 12 4 29 7 17 22 11 2 27 28 23 6 21 9 3 24 10 26 13 15 1 18 8 25 19 > >> 0 5 > >>>>> 16 14 > >>>>> > >>>>> The expected result. But how do I achieve this for a defined > function. > >>>>> > >>>>> Does not work either. > >>>>> ".@((":vector_anagram),x')"_ NB. same as x: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Maybe there is a symbol that 13 : can be recognize to trigger the > >>>> extended > >>>>> datatype. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Thank you for your help. > >>>>> > >>>>> Ak > >>>>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>> For information about J forums see > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >>>>> > >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> For information about J forums see > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >>>> > >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >> > >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm