Ed, After a hiccup with the install (my linux system was too old to run the sqlite binary and I had to get a backlevel version) things went smoothly.
There is a lot there!!! It is going to take time for me to take it all on board. Already, just the nuvoc stuff is of benefit. On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 1:17 PM Ed Gottsman <edward.j.gotts...@gmail.com> wrote: > Henry, > > Thank you for investing the time, for identifying speed bumps, and for > suggesting changes. All of the latter seem both reasonable and doable. > > The search facility’s words/phrase distinction needs to be made clear in > the UX. For now, I will cheat: “phrase” refers to an ordered list of > tokens; (+/ % #) is such a list. “Words” is an unordered bag of tokens. > > So if you were curious about Roger Hui’s comments on the phrase /:/:, you > could type (phrase) /:/: and (words) Hui Roger. (You’d also have to drag > the time slider back a few years, however. His posts on the topic are > older.) > > If I could use conventional syntax, the search would be “/: /:" AND Hui > Roger. J has of course reserved the double quote, and its interpretation > takes priority in this case. Hence the two input fields. > > Thanks again. > > Ed > > > On Nov 24, 2023, at 11:09 AM, Henry Rich <henryhr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Real-time notes at installation... > > > > It said I needed SQlite and that it had put a line to that effect in > term (all of which was true) > > > > --- will a new user understand this? > > > > --- It went ahead and launched J Viewer even without the SQL. I found > that disconcerting but ignored it and went to term to run the line. I also > put in the shortcut as recommended, and restarted J. > > > > After the restart I did ctrl-Shift-H for the shortcut, and it said my > SQL was out of date. This seems uncalled for. I went to Package Manager > and updated SQlite. Meanwhile J Viewer had been launched again, and I > canceled it IIRC. > > > > Ctrl-Shift-H again, now no messages and J viewer comes up. There is a > form, all empty. Typing into the Words and Phrase edit controls is > disallowed. Eventually I see a big button with a message to the effect > that the database needs updating, followed by ... . I took that as a > request to click, and did. Boom! J Viewer comes to life, with primitives > on the left. I click around, and NuVoc comes up on the right. Searches > for words and phrases produce results. This is going to be great. > > > > Suggestions: > > > > 1. The 4 source buttons (Forum/GitHub/Wiki/Rosetta) come up unselected > but act as if all 4 were selected. Thus when you select one, the others go > away. I suggest initializing them to selected. > > > > 2. The Shortcut button really is 'Add a shortcut to your config files'. > As such, it is never needed after initial use. I recommend removing it if > there is a shortcut, and providing a menu to allow for the seldom-used > action of deleting the shortcut. > > > > 3. Likewise, the huge buttons to refresh the local database and update > the J Viewer exaggerate their importance. If you are refreshing the > database weekly as you said, most users will never need to update by hand. > I suggest moving these features to an 'Update' menu. The very first time, > bring up a modal dialog to force the user to initialize the database. > > > > 4. Clicking the first line of the leftmost pane brings up a list of > primitives. Hovering over a primitive brings up clickable links below; I > suggest that the colored box for the primitive also be clickable. > > > > 5. There are edit controls labeled 'Phrase' and 'Words'. What's the > difference? Is one J and the other English? > > > > 6. Please find a way to put Vocabulary/Foreigns and > Vocabulary/SpecialCombinations into the left pane near the top. I refer to > those all the time. Better, allow a user to lock a page pointer into the > left pane. > > > > > > This is already easier to get around in than the Wiki, just because of > decreased scrolling. > > > > Henry Rich > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 11/23/2023 7:56 PM, Ed Gottsman wrote: > >> load '~addons/gottsman63/jwikiviz/run.ijs' > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
