Eric, I’m very happy that you’re past the hiccup and (frankly) ecstatic that you’re finding a lot to explore. One of my users commented, “I didn’t know there was so much material [on J].”
Ed > On Nov 28, 2023, at 9:50 AM, Eric Iverson <eric.b.iver...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Ed, > After a hiccup with the install (my linux system was too old to run the > sqlite binary and I had to get a backlevel version) things went smoothly. > > There is a lot there!!! > > It is going to take time for me to take it all on board. Already, just the > nuvoc stuff is of benefit. > > On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 1:17 PM Ed Gottsman <edward.j.gotts...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Henry, >> >> Thank you for investing the time, for identifying speed bumps, and for >> suggesting changes. All of the latter seem both reasonable and doable. >> >> The search facility’s words/phrase distinction needs to be made clear in >> the UX. For now, I will cheat: “phrase” refers to an ordered list of >> tokens; (+/ % #) is such a list. “Words” is an unordered bag of tokens. >> >> So if you were curious about Roger Hui’s comments on the phrase /:/:, you >> could type (phrase) /:/: and (words) Hui Roger. (You’d also have to drag >> the time slider back a few years, however. His posts on the topic are >> older.) >> >> If I could use conventional syntax, the search would be “/: /:" AND Hui >> Roger. J has of course reserved the double quote, and its interpretation >> takes priority in this case. Hence the two input fields. >> >> Thanks again. >> >> Ed >> >>> On Nov 24, 2023, at 11:09 AM, Henry Rich <henryhr...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Real-time notes at installation... >>> >>> It said I needed SQlite and that it had put a line to that effect in >> term (all of which was true) >>> >>> --- will a new user understand this? >>> >>> --- It went ahead and launched J Viewer even without the SQL. I found >> that disconcerting but ignored it and went to term to run the line. I also >> put in the shortcut as recommended, and restarted J. >>> >>> After the restart I did ctrl-Shift-H for the shortcut, and it said my >> SQL was out of date. This seems uncalled for. I went to Package Manager >> and updated SQlite. Meanwhile J Viewer had been launched again, and I >> canceled it IIRC. >>> >>> Ctrl-Shift-H again, now no messages and J viewer comes up. There is a >> form, all empty. Typing into the Words and Phrase edit controls is >> disallowed. Eventually I see a big button with a message to the effect >> that the database needs updating, followed by ... . I took that as a >> request to click, and did. Boom! J Viewer comes to life, with primitives >> on the left. I click around, and NuVoc comes up on the right. Searches >> for words and phrases produce results. This is going to be great. >>> >>> Suggestions: >>> >>> 1. The 4 source buttons (Forum/GitHub/Wiki/Rosetta) come up unselected >> but act as if all 4 were selected. Thus when you select one, the others go >> away. I suggest initializing them to selected. >>> >>> 2. The Shortcut button really is 'Add a shortcut to your config files'. >> As such, it is never needed after initial use. I recommend removing it if >> there is a shortcut, and providing a menu to allow for the seldom-used >> action of deleting the shortcut. >>> >>> 3. Likewise, the huge buttons to refresh the local database and update >> the J Viewer exaggerate their importance. If you are refreshing the >> database weekly as you said, most users will never need to update by hand. >> I suggest moving these features to an 'Update' menu. The very first time, >> bring up a modal dialog to force the user to initialize the database. >>> >>> 4. Clicking the first line of the leftmost pane brings up a list of >> primitives. Hovering over a primitive brings up clickable links below; I >> suggest that the colored box for the primitive also be clickable. >>> >>> 5. There are edit controls labeled 'Phrase' and 'Words'. What's the >> difference? Is one J and the other English? >>> >>> 6. Please find a way to put Vocabulary/Foreigns and >> Vocabulary/SpecialCombinations into the left pane near the top. I refer to >> those all the time. Better, allow a user to lock a page pointer into the >> left pane. >>> >>> >>> This is already easier to get around in than the Wiki, just because of >> decreased scrolling. >>> >>> Henry Rich >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 11/23/2023 7:56 PM, Ed Gottsman wrote: >>>> load '~addons/gottsman63/jwikiviz/run.ijs' >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
