I guess I was educated during a time when a problem was to be pondered, worked and reworked until maybe the following week in class you would discuss and analyze possible solutions. I still believe that that is part of the growth process.
In schools, students want instant solutions which they look at and are convinced that the solution is plausible, but they haven't experience the struggle to find their own solution. Once you have tried the problem yourself you will appreciate a better solution more. On the other side of the issue, almost every concern raised on the forum is begging for an immediate solutions. So I suggest you put your efforts toward those. In fact, an immediate solution would be great for my "real" problem posted earlier. If you have an image and a sound file, the sound will play before the image appears. Can you reverse this somehow? require 'gui/gtkwd' wd 'pc form closeok' wd 'xywh 0 0 100 100;cc b1 button bs_ownerdraw;cn "/users/owner/j701-user/temp/toucan.bmp"' 'winmm PlaySoundA > i *c x i'&cd 'c:\users\owner\j701\willie\00will.wav';0;0 wd 'pshow' Thanks in advance. Linda -----Original Message----- From: programming-boun...@jsoftware.com [mailto:programming-boun...@jsoftware.com] On Behalf Of Skip Cave Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 6:36 PM To: Programming forum Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] Challenge 6 Many Many Cherry Trees It would be much simpler if one put no time restrictions on the responses to a posted problem, but instead ask that a "spoiler alert" label be posted on any purported solution to the problem. In that way, readers late to the game or slow on the uptake, could bypass the posted answers until they were ready to investigate how others approached their own solutions. This scheme may not result in as clear a "winner" as a timed contest might provide, but I expect it would still provide a good learning experience for all the readers. Skip On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Dan Bron <j...@bron.us> wrote: > Linda wrote: > > Design a function with no restrictions > > on style or specific functions. > > I'm glad the constraints on style and presentation were lifted. > > Linda wrote: > > PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND UNTIL 2/22/2012 > > Raul responded: > > Please send again when we > > can respond -- I will read it then. > > > I also think the restriction on response time should be lifted. I believe > that these challenges would see a lot more uptake and participation if they > were unfettered by artificial restrictions. > > I suggest that those who need a little extra time to solve the puzzle are > the ones who should exercise restraint. When a puzzle is posted, chances > are most responses are going to contain spoilers (a smaller number may ask > for clarifications or include digressions). So, the rule is: if you don't > want help solving the puzzle, don't read the thread until you're done. > Pretty easy. (I do this all the time with the more challenging J puzzles > posted here.) > > This approach has the added benefit of not imposing a deadline on people > who > need more time than originally allotted (e.g., for those who are on holiday > until 2/22/2012 and won't even see the puzzle til they get back). > > So, I'm just going to be bold here and adopt this convention. Let's see > what > happens. > > **SPOILER AFTER 15 BLANK LINES** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gw =: ' '&, {~ #\ (- (|. 1j1&#)"_1 >:@?) # > > gw 'many' > m > n m > n a y > a y n m > > gw 'many' > n > a y > m y a > n y m a > > gw 'cherrytrees' > t > r e > e r e > r e e y > t e c h e > r r r e h e > e e c s t r h > r s h e r y c t > e s e y c r e r r > s h c e r e r r e y > s c e r r e r h e y t > > a=:gw '%%%####' > a,.a,.a,.a > # # # # > % # % # % # % # > # % # # % # # % # # % # > # % # % # % # % # % # % # % # % > % # # # % % # # # % % # # # % % # # # % > # % # % # # # % # % # # # % # % # # # % # % # # > # # # % % % # # # # % % % # # # # % % % # # # # % % % # > > > -Dan > > PS: >:@? here is a great example of the benefits and uses of @ (in the > sense that @: is not a suitable replacement, and therefore neither is [: > >: ? or 1 + ? etc. You'd have to use circumlocutions like ([: >: ?)"0 > . > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > -- Skip Cave Cave Consulting LLC Phone: 214-460-4861 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
