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                Mathieu Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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                mar 18.05.2004 � 17:20 (Europe/Paris)

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� The purpose seems to update web pages from cvs, is it ? �



Yes. It just access a text file giving the unix name of the project and then download 
the stuff.



The list of projects is generated by a script which one is outside of the chroot. It 
permit to have the www chroot running without mysql client and mysql access.



Apart from that, Gna! use the backend with nothing really specific. 



In the case of interest to us, the issue is not really related to Savane.



What the script just have to do is only related to apache and webalizer.



As I detailled before:





The best is to have a script that takes as argument on the command line:



--conffile= path to the configuration file like /var/webalizer/group.conf

--logfile= path the apache log, like /var/log/apache/bygroup/group.log

--outputdir= path to the output directory for webalizer

like /var/www/group/webalizer/

--title= title for the webalizer results



It would be easy then to adapt the script homepage-update.pl to call that script.



No other group info other than the system name is available. The home.gna.org system 
in a chroot that have no access to the database or anything else.



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Another script (a trivial one) like homepage-update.pl should be written to run 
webalizer on each conffile, and that script will be run via cron. In fact, 
homepage-update.pl would only need very trivial changes for that.










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[task #119] Full Item Snapshot:

URL: <http://gna.org/task/?func=detailitem&item_id=119>
Project: Administration
Submitted by: Mathieu Roy
On: lun 02.02.2004 � 02:00

Should Start On:  lun 02.02.2004 � 00:00
Should be Finished on:  jeu 02.09.2004 � 00:00
Category:  Services Functionalities
Priority:  1 - Later
Resolution:  None
Assigned to:  None
Percent Complete:  0%
Status:  Open
Effort:  0.00


Summary:  webalizer statistics for download area + homepage per project

Original Submission:  We should provide "webalizer statistics for download area + 
homepage per project"

Commentaires :
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Date: mar 18.05.2004 � 17:20        By: yeupou
� The purpose seems to update web pages from cvs, is it ? �



Yes. It just access a text file giving the unix name of the project and then download 
the stuff.



The list of projects is generated by a script which one is outside of the chroot. It 
permit to have the www chroot running without mysql client and mysql access.



Apart from that, Gna! use the backend with nothing really specific. 



In the case of interest to us, the issue is not really related to Savane.



What the script just have to do is only related to apache and webalizer.



As I detailled before:





The best is to have a script that takes as argument on the command line:



--conffile= path to the configuration file like /var/webalizer/group.conf

--logfile= path the apache log, like /var/log/apache/bygroup/group.log

--outputdir= path to the output directory for webalizer

like /var/www/group/webalizer/

--title= title for the webalizer results



It would be easy then to adapt the script homepage-update.pl to call that script.



No other group info other than the system name is available. The home.gna.org system 
in a chroot that have no access to the database or anything else.



--



Another script (a trivial one) like homepage-update.pl should be written to run 
webalizer on each conffile, and that script will be run via cron. In fact, 
homepage-update.pl would only need very trivial changes for that.





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Date: mar 18.05.2004 � 16:40        By: djobet
OK, I've read the file quickly. The purpose seems to update web pages from cvs, is it ?

Is there some documentation somewhere detailing the installation process between 
savane and gna ?

I mean, I've installed savane, but what else do I need to install ? (that's hard to 
try to guess what's the next step when you're in the dark).

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Date: mar 18.05.2004 � 16:20        By: yeupou
Hum, sorry I hadnt time to follow the issue.



The script is not part of savane (as it does not interact at all with the software 
savane) but of gna scripts. I attach to this item.



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Date: mar 18.05.2004 � 15:53        By: djobet
I've installed and run savane (at least partially) on my home system, and I've posted 
to savane-dev but got no answer.

Perhaps was it not the good place.

However, where can I find the homepage-update.pl script you're talking about ?

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Date: sam 08.05.2004 � 20:00        By: yeupou
No, it is not complex to set up  webalizer. However, we need to make apache saving 
logs for each area in separate files. That's not a big task either, that's doable. But 
it still need to be done.

You are right, what would be need in a minimal script that create a webalizer conf 
(hum, it may even not be necessary. Just one conffile + command line args may be 
enough). 

The robot.txt blocking access to search engines is a good idea, indeed.

However, a script handling webalizer conf creation should not touch cron. There should 
be only one cron entry. Otherwise it would not be scalable.

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How I understand your script, it would be called by the script that create the 
homepage area at http://home.gna.org 

--

The prefered language is Perl, as all the others scripts are in Perl.
The scripts must be in "use strict;" and should use "use Getopt::Long;" for command 
line arguments.

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The best is to have a script that takes as argument on the command line:

  --conffile= path to the configuration file like /var/webalizer/group.conf
  --logfile= path the apache log, like /var/log/apache/bygroup/group.log
  --outputdir= path to the output directory for webalizer
like /var/www/group/webalizer/
  --title= title for the webalizer results

It would be easy then to adapt the script homepage-update.pl to call that script.

No other group info other than the system name is available. The home.gna.org system 
in a chroot that have no access to the database or anything else. 

--

Another script (a trivial one) like homepage-update.pl should be written to run 
webalizer on each conffile, and that script will be run via cron. In fact, 
homepage-update.pl would only need very trivial changes for that.



--

So if you can write the first script, it would be easy for us to include it in our 
bunch of scripts.

If you want, we can give you write access to the cvs repository, which is not public 
(but all the code is GPL).


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Date: ven 07.05.2004 � 10:36        By: djobet
>From my limited knowledge, setting up webalizer is not too complicated : we need to 
>set up a webalizer.conf file, plus set up a cron job to launch webalizer once a day.



I guess we have to provide a tool (in which form ? perl ? bash ? other ?) that creates 
the conf file from the project info (in which form can we retrieve the project info ?).



One bothering task with webalizer is to regularly check the logs to add IgnoreReferrer 
on xxx site (they use webalizer as a way to increase their google ranking).

I guess we should add a robot.txt file forbidding the search engines to reference the 
webalizer page...



If you can tell me what kind of tool I can use and how I can get basic information on 
the project (such as the name, the path on the servers, ...) I can create a script 
that creates the 

- webalizer.conf

- add an entry in the cron



I think we will need to think if we want a referrer entry in the webalizer page (I 
think that's a cool feature because I can see who is talking/using of my project) and 
in that case how can we fight against porn sites.



See my last webalizer entry : http://www.nosica.net/webalizer/usage_200405.html




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