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It would be very simple to feed a rrd base from the logs and have a per-project 
throughput graph. I just figured out that barely 20 lines of perl called from 
logrotate on access.log would do the trick. What do you think ?








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[task #119] Full Item Snapshot:

URL: <http://gna.org/task/?func=detailitem&item_id=119>
Project: Administration
Submitted by: Mathieu Roy
On: Mon 02/02/04 at 02:00

Should Start On:  Mon 02/02/04 at 00:00
Should be Finished on:  Thu 09/02/04 at 00:00
Category:  Services Functionalities
Priority:  1 - Later
Resolution:  None
Assigned to:  None
Percent Complete:  0%
Status:  Open
Effort:  0.00


Summary:  webalizer statistics for download area + homepage per project

Original Submission:  We should provide "webalizer statistics for download area 
+ homepage per project"

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Date: Thu 05/27/04 at 18:02         By: zerodeux
It would be very simple to feed a rrd base from the logs and have a per-project 
throughput graph. I just figured out that barely 20 lines of perl called from 
logrotate on access.log would do the trick. What do you think ?



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Date: Tue 05/18/04 at 17:20         By: yeupou
« The purpose seems to update web pages from cvs, is it ? »



Yes. It just access a text file giving the unix name of the project and then 
download the stuff.



The list of projects is generated by a script which one is outside of the 
chroot. It permit to have the www chroot running without mysql client and mysql 
access.



Apart from that, Gna! use the backend with nothing really specific. 



In the case of interest to us, the issue is not really related to Savane.



What the script just have to do is only related to apache and webalizer.



As I detailled before:





The best is to have a script that takes as argument on the command line:



--conffile= path to the configuration file like /var/webalizer/group.conf

--logfile= path the apache log, like /var/log/apache/bygroup/group.log

--outputdir= path to the output directory for webalizer

like /var/www/group/webalizer/

--title= title for the webalizer results



It would be easy then to adapt the script homepage-update.pl to call that 
script.



No other group info other than the system name is available. The home.gna.org 
system in a chroot that have no access to the database or anything else.



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Another script (a trivial one) like homepage-update.pl should be written to run 
webalizer on each conffile, and that script will be run via cron. In fact, 
homepage-update.pl would only need very trivial changes for that.





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Date: Tue 05/18/04 at 16:40         By: djobet
OK, I've read the file quickly. The purpose seems to update web pages from cvs, 
is it ?

Is there some documentation somewhere detailing the installation process 
between savane and gna ?

I mean, I've installed savane, but what else do I need to install ? (that's 
hard to try to guess what's the next step when you're in the dark).

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Date: Tue 05/18/04 at 16:20         By: yeupou
Hum, sorry I hadnt time to follow the issue.



The script is not part of savane (as it does not interact at all with the 
software savane) but of gna scripts. I attach to this item.



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Date: Tue 05/18/04 at 15:53         By: djobet
I've installed and run savane (at least partially) on my home system, and I've 
posted to savane-dev but got no answer.

Perhaps was it not the good place.

However, where can I find the homepage-update.pl script you're talking about ?

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Date: Sat 05/08/04 at 20:00         By: yeupou
No, it is not complex to set up  webalizer. However, we need to make apache 
saving logs for each area in separate files. That's not a big task either, 
that's doable. But it still need to be done.

You are right, what would be need in a minimal script that create a webalizer 
conf (hum, it may even not be necessary. Just one conffile + command line args 
may be enough). 

The robot.txt blocking access to search engines is a good idea, indeed.

However, a script handling webalizer conf creation should not touch cron. There 
should be only one cron entry. Otherwise it would not be scalable.

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How I understand your script, it would be called by the script that create the 
homepage area at http://home.gna.org 

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The prefered language is Perl, as all the others scripts are in Perl.
The scripts must be in "use strict;" and should use "use Getopt::Long;" for 
command line arguments.

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The best is to have a script that takes as argument on the command line:

  --conffile= path to the configuration file like /var/webalizer/group.conf
  --logfile= path the apache log, like /var/log/apache/bygroup/group.log
  --outputdir= path to the output directory for webalizer
like /var/www/group/webalizer/
  --title= title for the webalizer results

It would be easy then to adapt the script homepage-update.pl to call that 
script.

No other group info other than the system name is available. The home.gna.org 
system in a chroot that have no access to the database or anything else. 

--

Another script (a trivial one) like homepage-update.pl should be written to run 
webalizer on each conffile, and that script will be run via cron. In fact, 
homepage-update.pl would only need very trivial changes for that.



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So if you can write the first script, it would be easy for us to include it in 
our bunch of scripts.

If you want, we can give you write access to the cvs repository, which is not 
public (but all the code is GPL).


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Date: Fri 05/07/04 at 10:36         By: djobet
From my limited knowledge, setting up webalizer is not too complicated : we 
need to set up a webalizer.conf file, plus set up a cron job to launch 
webalizer once a day.



I guess we have to provide a tool (in which form ? perl ? bash ? other ?) that 
creates the conf file from the project info (in which form can we retrieve the 
project info ?).



One bothering task with webalizer is to regularly check the logs to add 
IgnoreReferrer on xxx site (they use webalizer as a way to increase their 
google ranking).

I guess we should add a robot.txt file forbidding the search engines to 
reference the webalizer page...



If you can tell me what kind of tool I can use and how I can get basic 
information on the project (such as the name, the path on the servers, ...) I 
can create a script that creates the 

- webalizer.conf

- add an entry in the cron



I think we will need to think if we want a referrer entry in the webalizer page 
(I think that's a cool feature because I can see who is talking/using of my 
project) and in that case how can we fight against porn sites.



See my last webalizer entry : http://www.nosica.net/webalizer/usage_200405.html




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