Ted – there was no video attached…

One thing that might be worth trying is to use SCM deformable terrain. If you 
have a couple of hours, give it a try – folks in our lab have had good success 
with that.

Dan
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf 
Of Ted Sender
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2025 10:32 PM
To: ProjectChrono <[email protected]>
Subject: [chrono] Tires Rotating Beyond Mechanical Limits

Hello,

I am currently using Chrono for vehicle simulations with a polaris vehicle. I 
am using rigid tires on rigid terrain. I am noticing that with certain terrain 
profiles one or both of the front tires rotate very quickly beyond its 
mechanical limit when the vehicle drives over a harsh bump/dip.

These are the current settings I am using:
Solver: Barzilai-Borwein, tolerance 1e-6, max iters 400, time step 1 ms
Collision: Bullet, default suggested envelope 1 mm, default suggested margin 1 
mm
Terrain: Rigid, coeff friction 0.6

I have tried using different solvers, but they did not seem to work (some just 
failed to perform the calculations or crashed the program). I tried lowering 
the time step from 1 ms to 0.2 ms, but that did not work either.

Attached is a video showing an example of the problem I am having. Right around 
t = 6 seconds, the front right wheel drives over a dip and then the wheel 
suddenly rotates clockwise well past its mechanical limit (the limit is about 
0.48 radians, but the wheel rotates like 2 radians).

I also logged some force/moment values to the terminal to see what was going 
on, thinking that it could have been a problem with the tire forces. Attached 
is a .txt file showing the tire's steering angle, tire force and torque values, 
and the applied force and torque to that wheel's spindle (I believe all 
forces/moments are expressed in the global frame).

>From this data, it seems that when the tire has no reported force/torque, the 
>spindle still has some applied force/torque. At t = 5.1 seconds, this occurs, 
>but is not a problem as the spindle torque is rather small. However, at t = 
>5.90 seconds, the tire force is zero but the spindle torque starts to increase 
>and then the wheel rotates beyond its limit.

Does this seem like a problem with the collision model/settings or is it caused 
by something else? Any help is greatly appreciated. I hope the data provided is 
helpful, but if you need some more values, let me know.

Thanks,
Ted
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