Hi Tim, *

Am 18.03.2011 14:42, schrieb Webmaster for Lungstrom.com:
>> Am 17.03.2011 22:39, schrieb Erich Christian:
> Are these sub-sites just English, French, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese,
> etc., translations for the German version, or will they be their own
> versions of the original site with content differences and such?

Subsites will be created on demand of teams like at LO website and the
teams are free to decide whether they want to translate or create their
own pages.


> What happens with the projects that are different than the original
> site, like our North American project?  Will it become something like
> "north_american.libreofficebox.org" ?

Up to you actually, I don't really see any restrictions.


> I would love to see one place where all the different projects will be
> seen and the visitor can choose to go to each project's page[s] and DVD
> offering.  Currently there are several DVD projects being worked on.  It
> would be nice to have all of these DVD projects listed in an easy to
> find place so the visitor to the site can find the "right" ISO download
> for their needs.  Also that list could include places for the visitors
> to find the groups that are offering physical media for sale.  The "old"
> OOo site use to have such a list, but Oracle's new site is lacking a lot
> of the mirror and purchase sites that they had when Sun was in charge. 
> I know several people in my building who asked me about where they could
> purchase the DVD.  These people do not have fast Internet access or none
> at all [since the building has a computer center for that use].  So here
> is my list of "parts" of good "International" site.
> 
> 1] The main site in English [standard some would say], but if there is
> the ability for the site to access the visitor's default language, the
> visitor would be forwarded to the correct language version of the main
> site.

I guess there's the possibility to fetch the visitor's browser language
and redirect him, but this is far ahead because it is not our job to do
all the translations - we offer the environment for different teams to
do it, like on the LO website.


> 2]  The main site would have a page listing all the different regional
> projects sorted by language[s] and geographical region[s].

http://libreofficebox.org/projects/  is a start for this


> 3]  There will be a page where the visitor would find places to download
> the ISO files from these different regional projects, and versions of
> the CD/DVD projects in as many languages as available.

Each subsite can provide a download page on their website in the
according language.


> 4] There will be a page that list groups or individuals where a visitor
> can purchase a physical copy of a DVD or CD so there would be no need to
> use their bandwidth to download up to 4.4 GB of file size of an ISO file
> and then burn the ISO to a working CD or DVD for their use.  Have this
> list sorted, again, by language[s] and geographical region[s].  This way
> the visitor can find a "seller" that is the closest to their location
> and have the least amount of shipping cost to them.

Up to the teams again, we'll provide the space for a website and a
development site as I have written.


> Actually, a nice marketing "tag line" for the "seller" would be "with
> ever DVD purchase, we will donate a portion of the sale to LibreOffice
> and The Document Foundation".  I would think people would like that.  If
> it costs $10 USD to make a professionally printed DVD and Case, ant it
> takes $5 USD to ship it to the buyer, the buyer would not be to unhappy
> if the seller adds on a $1 or $2 to that price for a donation.  So the
> sale would be $11 plus $5 shipping and processing, with the seller
> sending a check to The Document Foundation/LibreOffice for each purchase
> as a donation.

see above


> [quote]
> "We have finished the first step of our move and are up to prepare
> Silverstripe and the iso generating scripts on libreofficebox.org for
> multilingual use"
> [unquote]
> 
> What does this mean?  It seems to read that there will be a script that
> will generate an ISO file "on demand" for the visitor.  I do not know
> about "you" but it takes over 15 minutes to generate a 4 GB DVD on a
> dual core 2GHz Vista machine.

No, not for the visitor but for the teams.
Our service is focussed on the community, the services for visitors are
up to the teams.


> [quote]
> The dvd ui can be exported together with all linked files prior to
> an upcoming release of a dvd into static html, the iso file will be
> generated by script from this export.
> [unquote]
> 
> I read this as saying there will be a script in the HTML page that will
> look into a data base file for all the listed DVD projects and display
> this list for the visitor to see.  Then if there is a new project to be
> added to the list, you add it to the data base file and not change the
> code or scripts on the HTML page that displays the list.

Again this procedure is dedicated to the teams to create their iso files.
Visitor can choose from http://libreofficebox.org/projects/
what he wants to see or will be redirected later on.


> I like that idea.  I use to have a site that half of the pages had the
> same header, footer, navigation bar, and other parts that were the same
> for each page.  If I wanted to change the footer or add a new page to
> the navigation bar, I just changed the script file that was being
> called.  For the navigation bar, I passed a value of a variable to the
> script telling me which page is calling the navigation bar so that page
> would be highlighted in the bar.  The German language project
> highlighted the page's tab in the navigation bar.  That was a nice feature.
> 
> Since the North American Community DVD project is somewhere near 95% to
> 99% finished for its English language DVD, I hope the
> "libreofficebox.org <http://libreofficebox.org/>" site would soon have
> other project's work available for download as well as their DVD.
> 
> By the way.  The "libreofficebox.org" site is in English [or at least
> shown with my browser], but the download page is in German.
> "http://web.libreofficebox.org/download/";

Yes I'll remove the download link which is a leftover from the german page.


> Is the "http://libreofficebox.org/projects/"; page where you will be
> listing the different projects?

Yes


> As I said, our project is near completion and would be nice to list it
> there, if possible. URL project's URL is the following:
> 
> http://libreoffice-na.us/  which is our temporary root index page for
> the web page version, and not for the DVD.  It will be a forwarding
> page/script to the English index page until the DVD contains adds the
> French and Spanish translation [and content] to the DVD.

Ok I'll add the URL to the page.


> http://libreoffice-na.us/English/index.html for directly to the English
> pages, which currently is the only part available in our project.  That
> set of pages started as an English translation of the German language
> developmental page [3.3.0 version] of "http://de.libreofficebox.org/";
> and its DVD.  Then we modified the pages and content to reflect the
> needs of our regional needs and wants.  We have the 3.3.1 installs for
> the help and language files in 7 languages, for all the platforms
> supported.
> 
> The list currently includes the help and language files for: 
> English[USA], English[Great Britain], French, Spanish, Italian, Brazil
> Portuguese, and Hebrew.

So the basic URL will do at time when I got you right?


> Sorry for this long email as a reply to yours.

;-) was a bit of a challenge... but hope to have answered your questions
in the first place,

Cheers
Erich

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