Film yang berjudul “Exorsist” dan “Ipolita” saya kira yang paling serem.
From: Musik hari Ini Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 10:13 AM To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [proletar] In the words of the Imams Sering kita jumpai dalam sebuah tayangan film horor, selalu menghadirkan seekor kucing hitam sebagai latar atau figuran. Aksesoris kucing hitam juga sering kali muncul dalam acara yang berkaitan dengan dunia mistis.Seperti menjelang malam Binatang bermata menyala waktu malam hari ini selalu dikaitkan dengan dunia sihir atau magic....................tatapan matanya sungguh2 menakutkan pada siang & malam Sebagian masyarakat percaya bahwa kehadiran kucing hitam selalu diidentikkan dengan datangnya bangsa lelembut atau hantu. Biasanya kucing hitam tak datang di sembarang tempat dan waktu. Hanya tempat-tempat sepi dan wingit saja yang menjadi tempat kesukaan munculnya kucing hitam. Sebagian masyarakat mempercayai kehadiran kucing hitam adalah pertanda keangkeran. Dimana kucing hitam dijumpai, pasti di sekitar lokasi tersebut sedang ada hantu atau bangsa lelembut lain yang tengah melakukan penampakan atau sekedar melintas. Huh serem banget! Kepercayaan akan kucing hitam bermula dari sejarah di jaman Babylonia kuno tempo dulu. Saat itu kucing hitam dipersembahkan dalam upacara ritual untuk dibakar bersama sesaji lainnya. 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Siapa yg lebih kita percaya, mereka atau orang2 Islam kayak rezamettia, Abbas Amin, Hasan Basri atau anjing buduk piaraan orang Islam spt suryana dan Teddy? Ini contoh dr perkataan imam, hehehe.... Imam Abu Hamza al-Masri: “Killing a Kafir for any reason, you can say it, it is OK – even if there is no reason for it.” http://www.faithfreedom.org/articles/islamic-jihad-articles/in-the-words-of-the-imams/ In the words of the Imams 3/31/2012 In the words of the Imams jonmc The sources for all these quotes are on the internet. Need I add that these are less than a tithe of a tithe of the outpourings of bigotry, hatred, vile anti-semitism, calls-to-violence etc. that are the stock-in-trade of many Imams and Sheikhs – when speaking to Muslims that is? Let me assure the reader that this is merely the flavour of what is said – much inevitably goes unrecorded and unreported. In other words, these are what the Imams deemed “fit for public consumption” rather than what may be said in “closed session”. On non-Muslims. Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed (Syrian-born British cleric): “We don’t make a distinction between civilians and non-civilians… Only between Muslims and unbelievers. And the life of an unbeliever has no value.” Comment:Bakri is being very hard on Kaffirs here. According to the Laws of Qisas the non-Muslim’s life is worth half that of a Muslim, but this may only apply to dhimmis. Sheik Riyadh ul Haq (Leicester UK Mosques): “the ones who are bitterest in their enmity towards Muslims, the most unrelenting, unforgiving, are the Jews and the idolators in all their forms [this use of “idolators” means all non-Muslims in effect]. And lest someone say that’s provocative or that is anti-Semitic, Allah, the creator of the Semite, says that.” Comment: So that’s all right then. I can be a nasty, racist, xenophobic promoter of Islamist intolerance because my god is too! Abu Usamah: “No one loves the kuffaar [non-Muslim], not a single person loves the kuffaar, we hate the kuffaar! Allah has not given those people who are kuffaar a way over the believer. They shouldn’t be in authority over us. Muslims shouldn’t be satisfied with anything other than a total Islamic state.” Comment: I had trouble deciding whether to put this here, under Al-War’a wal-bar’a or Islamic supremacy. Usamah gets the lot in here! Anjem Choudhery (A self-styled British “Imam”): “When we say innocent people we mean Muslims. As far as non-Muslims are concerned, they haven’t accepted Islam … [that's] a crime against god.” Comment: Implicit here is that no (adult) kaffir is an innocent and that all Kaffirs are “fair game” to be murdered. Sheik Nader Tamimi, Mufti of the Palestinian Liberation Army: “We Will Restore the Caliphate and You [the West] Will Pay the Jizya or else we will bring the sword to your necks.” Comment:so much for the “religion of Peace”TM. Also note that this isn’t “compulsion” since we have a choice – Jizya or death. On Islamic supremacy. Imam Abu Hamza al-Masri (Imam in Britain, Finsbury Park Mosque, London): “The real weapons of mass destruction are the desire for martyrdom… Half a million martyrdom shaheed is enough for Muslims to control the whole of earth forever. In the end of the day, Islam must control earth, whether we like it or not.” Comment: Thus the Imam is pursuing the Koran-mandated goal of world domination. It sounds like a bad B-movie plot, but it isn’t – and that is something that should concern us all. He is also calling for a half-million suicide-bombers to blow themselves up whilst murdering non-Muslims. Dr Ijaz Mian (Derby mosques): “You are in a situation in which you have to live like a state within a state, until you take over.” Comment:And we wonder why Muslims do not integrate? And waste time on “Outreach” etc. Dr Ijaz Mian: “[The] Queen, [the] House of Commons … if you accept it, you are part of it. If you don’t accept it, you have to dismantle it. So being a Muslim, you have to fix a target. There will be no House of Commons … Muslims just grow in strength … then take over.” Comment: At least we know the plan … not that Western governments of any political stripe seem to care. Anjem Choudhery: “One day the flag of Islam will fly over the White House… One day the flag of Islam will fly over Downing Street … Buckingham Palace will become a Mosque.” Comment:honesty is so refreshing. “Andy” Choudhery is always clear in stating his aims. Imam Amir-Abdel Malik-Ali (Masjid Al Islam mosque, Oakland, CA): “We must implement Islam as a totality (in which) Allah controls every place… the home, the classroom, the science lab, the halls of Congress.” Comment: this is what full-blown Islam means. Everything, every act, every thought, is subordinated to Islam. It makes Orwells’ dystopia “1984” look benign and enlightened. Imam Siraj Wahhaj (Masjid Al-Taqwa mosque. Brooklyn, N.Y):“In time, this so-called democracy will crumble, and there will be nothing. And the only thing left will be Islam.” Comment:and the world will return to the stone-age. Imam Zaid Shakir (Former Chaplain at Yale University): “Muslims cannot accept the legitimacy of the existing American order, since it is against the orders and ordainments of Allah.” Comment:Don’t think that is limited to America – any non-Sharia governed order must be overthrown. Omar Ahmad (Council on American Islamic Relations, CAIR, not an Iman, but a “representative” of American Islam): “Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth…” Comment: as above. Ihsan Bagby (CAIR, as above): “Ultimately, we (Muslims) can never be full citizens of this country [America] … because there is no way we can be fully committed to the institutions and ideologies of this country…” Comment: nor any other non-Sharia Country. Sheik Ibrahim Mudeiris (Sheikh ‘Ijlin Mosque in Gaza) “We have ruled the world before, and by Allah, the day will come when we will rule the entire world again. The day will come when we will rule Britain.” Sheik Abu Imran: Just as we ruled many European lands… we are coming to take back what belongs to us, to regain our land and purify it of unbelief and of the unbelievers. We are coming with “There is no god but Allah.” We are coming because we reject democracy. We do not accept democracy. We accept nothing but the tawhid of Allah. We accept nothing but: “There is no god but Allah.” We accept nothing but the shari’a of Allah. Comment:Implicit herein is a threat to massacre all non-Muslims. Shaykh Safwat Hegazy (Egypt): “Jerusalem belongs to us and the whole world belongs to us. Every land upon which Islam has set foot will return to us, the Caliphate will return to us… the greatness and glory of Islam will return.” Dr. Muhammad Musa Al-Sharif (Saudi Arabia): “The only thing that the sheiks, preachers, and scholars are demanding is that Islam rule the world once again.” Comment:and they want so little! Imam Ahmad Nawfal (Jordanian Imam): “If fundamentalist Muslims stand up, it will be very easy for us to preside over this world once again.” Sheikh Sayyid Qutb: “It is Allah and not man who rules. Allah is the source of all authority, including legitimate political authority. Virtue, not freedom, is the highest value. Therefore, Allah’s law [Sharia], not man’s, should govern the society.” Comment:therefore all other governments, laws, societies and systems must be overthrown. On war, terror, violence and jihad. Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed: “Britain is dar-ul Harb…There should be, will be, new operations [terror attacks] in London, inshallah [god willing].” Comment:why terrorist attacks? To “strike terror into the hearts” of the Kaffirs, of course – and to deny them a legitimate target in return. Imam Abu Hamza al-Masri:You must know the cause of Allah and you musthelp that cause in fighting, by fighting and when you fight you kill, you fight to kill.” Comment: He could not be much plainer could he? He is a “plain warner”. You help the cause of Allah (“fee sabili Allahi”) by fighting and killing; not building hospitals, nor schools for girls. You help Allah by killing Kaffirs. Imam Abu Hamza al-Masri: “Killing a Kafir for any reason, you can say it, it is OK – even if there is no reason for it.” Comment: killing Kaffirs is just fine and dandy with Allah. Imam Abu Hamza al-Masri: “It [murder-bombing] is not called suicide [in Islam], this is called martyring, because if the only way to hurt the enemies of Islam [is] by taking your life for that then it is allowed.” Comment: if you can’t fight in an open Jihad against Kaffirs, it’s definitely Okay to blow yourself up, provided you take some Kaffirs with you. Imam Abu Mounisa: “He [Mohammed] went and destroyed them [non-Muslims], killed them, chopped their heads off, beheaded them! …We need to attack the leaders, David Cameron, we need to attack him.” Comment:If he was not a Muslim he would now be in gaol for incitement to murder of the British Prime-Minister (as of 2010). Imam Abdullah el-Faisal (roving hate-preacher): “You have to bomb the Indian businesses, and as for the Jews you kill them physically”. Comment:as above. Imam Abdullah el-Faisal: “An army of Muslims will arise against the non-Muslims in England”. Comment:incitement to civil war, he too, were he a non-Muslim, would be prosecuted and imprisoned for “hate-crime”s and sedition. Imam Abu Mounisa: “You need to provoke society for society to be changed…You need to attack law and order… Every day we should attack their system, just like the prophet did.” Comment: again he incites violence against Britain, in particular the Police and security services. Imam Latif (Sutton “Companions of the Mosque”): “We don’t have Muslim terrorists… they do not exist.” Comment: he’s right – according to Islam. They are not terrorists, they are “Shaheeds” – murderers for Islam (seems a common theme in prisons, btw). Imam Abdul Alim Musa (Al Masjid mosque, Washington, D.C.) “If you don’t give us justice. If you don’t give us equality. If you don’t give us our share of America. If you don’t stay out of our way and leave us alone, we’re gonna burn America down.” Comment: a clear statement that (some) American Muslims want their own state(s) and a separate society within America. Imam Muhammad Al-Asi (Former Imam at the Washington, D.C. Islamic Center): “Now, all our Imams, our public speakers, should be concentrating on militarising the Muslim public … Only carrying arms will do this task.” Comment:a ‘call to arms’ as a prelude to starting a civil war. Nihad Awad (CAIR): “I am in support of the Hamas movement.” Comment:Therefore you are a terrorist, possibly a “passive” one, but a terrorist nevertheless. Dr. Esam Omeish (Muslim American Society, MAS): “You have learned the way, that you have known that the jihad way is the way to liberate your land.” Comment: a call for Muslim-Americans to wage jihad to “liberate” America from the Kaffir. Sheikh Abu Ishak Al Huweini (Egypt): “The reason we are poor now is because we have abandoned jihad. If only we can conduct a jihadist invasion [of a non-Muslim Country] at least once a year … and if anyone prevents our dawa or stands in our way, then we must kill them or take [them] as hostage and confiscate their wealth, women and children. Such battles will fill the pockets of the Mujahid who can return home with 3 or 4 slaves, 3 or 4 women and 3 or 4 children. This can be a profitable business if you multiply each head by 300 or 400 dirham. This can be like financial shelter whereby a jihadist, in time of financial need, can always sell one of these heads (meaning slaves). No one can make that much money in one deal (from hard work) even if a Muslim goes to the West to work or do trade. In time of need, that is a good resource for profit.” Comment:thus today, in 2011, we still have a Muslim leader promoting sex-slavery and despoilment of the non-Muslim as a “get-rich-quick” scheme for Mussalmen. Edina Lekovic (Muslim Public Affairs Council, MPAC): “When we hear someone refer to the great mujahid Osama bin Laden as a ‘terrorist’, we should defend our brother and refer to him as a freedom fighter…” Comment:To the Muslim there are no terrorists in Islam, just freedom fighters and shaheeds. This despite the fact that ‘Mujhaid’ bin Laden’s organisation killed more Muslims than non-Muslims. Shukri Abu Baker (Holy Land Foundation): “I swear by Allah that war is deception… We are fighting our enemy … Deceive, camouflage, pretend you are leaving while you’re walking that way. Deceive your enemy.” Comment:A call to taqqiya – or Muda’rat – to deceive the Kaffirs as to the intentions of the Muslims. Ayatollah Khomeini: “Those who know nothing of Islam pretend that Islam counsels against war. Those (who say this) are witless. Islam says: kill all of the unbelievers as they would kill you all.” Sheikh Qaradawi: the army leadership is not a purely civil job. It is one of the worship jobs in Islam becauseJihad is on top of the Islamic worship acts.” Comment: Qaradawi is making clear that sword-jihad (the Muslim army is the “sword of Islam”) is the most “holy” or devout worship act a Muslim can carry out. On al-War’a wal Bar’a (love and hate for Allah’s sake) Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed: “I belong [i.e. am loyal] to Islam. I did not belong [i.e. owed loyalty] to Britain when I lived there. I refused to pledge my allegiance to the Queen. I refused to swear that I would obey the Queen or the laws. I obey only Allah and the messenger [Mohammed].” Note:the “pledge of allegiance” is required for a foreign national requesting British citizenship. Comment: Bakri clearly considers himself and indeed all Muslims “above” the laws of Britain because they are not Sharia Law. Imam Abu Mounisa: “We should have the zeal in our hearts, for the sake of Islam, to destroy all their [the non-Muslims'] system and replace it with Islam.” Comment: practical out-working of the doctrine of al-War’a wal Bar’a. Anjem Choudhery: “You must have allegiance where Sharia says you must have allegiance, you must hate and love for the sake of Allah [al-War'a wal-Bar'a]. So I must support my Muslim brothers and sisters wherever they are in the World, I must have allegiance with them, I must cooperate with them, I must love them… I must have hatred towards anything that is non-Islam.” Comment: this means, in part, “I must help, shelter and protect terrorists”. Anjem Choudhery: “As far a Muslims are concerned, their allegiance is always with the Muslims, so I will never condemn a Muslim for what he does even if he is an oppressor.” [Said in relation to the 7/7 London bombings]. Comment: as above, note also that implicit here is that no matter how evil the act of a Muslim, other Muslims must side with him/her against non-Muslims. Sheikh Mohammed Nassar (Egypt): “When a child is brought up in a good home and receives a proper education in faith he loves martyrdom, which becomes like an instinct to him and he can never give it up.” Comment:this was part of achildren’s TV program with a live audience of children. Martyr here means “mass murderer”. Sheik Abu Imran (Belgian Islamist): “Oh Sarkozy, enemy of Allah, dog of the Romans, son of the unbeliever, we are on our way. We are on our way with “Allah Akbar,” “Allah Akbar.” We are coming, with our nuclear bombs of “Allah Akbar.” We are coming, with our black flags – the black flags of “There is no god but Allah, and Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah.” Comment:the “black flag” of Islam is a war banner. It is a declaration of war on the Kaffir. On Muslim “hypocrites”. Imam Abu Hamza al-Masri: “These [supporters and members of the Muslim Parliament of Great Britain] are the pussy-cat Muslims,who do not understand anything about Islam … What can the Muslim Parliament do? Just sit like monkeys among the real MPs.” Comment: the MPGB members are known as “moderates”. Here Bakri exposes them as what they really are: half-hearted, un-knowledgeable believers – i.e. “hypocrites” according to the Koran. On Islamic tolerance and equality. Imam Arshad Misbahi (Manchester Central Mosque): “the execution of gay Muslims is part of the central tenets of Islam: sex outside marriage is forbidden; this is stated in the Koran and the prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) had stated that these punishments [murder] were due to such behaviours.’ Comment: He knows his barbaric Sharia! Abu Usamah, (American convert, resident in UK): ‘If I were to call homosexuals perverted, dirty, filthy dogs who should be murdered … that’s my freedom of speech, isn’t it?‘ Comment: actually no. That crosses the line into incitement to murder (‘who should be murdered’). Muhammad Rateb Al-Nabulsi (Syria): “Homosexuality involves a filthy place, and does not generate offspring. Homosexuality leads to the destruction of the homosexual. That is why, brothers, homosexuality carries the death penalty.” Comment: Another rampant Muslim homophobic rant. Sheikh Khalifa (Kenya): “We are asking Kenyans to shun businesses owned by such people [homosexuals] and further show them open discrimination as a way of stopping the beastly act. [they] should not be accepted among the society. “Death is the only punishment prescribed by Islam for such people. We urge our government to consider allowing us to use such methods to deal with the dehumanising acts.” Comment:murdering people isn’t “dehumanising” but being a homosexual is? Imam Abu Hamza al-Misri: “If a kaffir person (non-Muslim) goes in a Muslim country, he is like a cow. Anybody can take him. That is the Islamic law. …If a kaffir is walking by and you catch him, he’s booty. You can sell him in the market. …If Muslims cannot take them and sell them in the market, you just kill them. It’s OK….I say the reality that’s in the Muslim books anyway. Whether I say it or not, it’s in the books.” Comment: (Unless you are an acknowledged dhimmi), you are fair game for Muslims in Islamic Countries. You can be caught and treated as “ghanima” (war-booty) and enslaved. Abu Usamah: ‘[women are] deficient, even if they have a PhD. Her intellect is incomplete. She may be suffering from hormones that will make her emotional. It takes two witnesses of a woman to equal the one witness of a man.’ Comment: How comforting for Usamah to know he’s so very superior to every woman. Imam Feisel Abdul Rauf (former leader “ground-zero mosque” project): “I do not believe in religious dialogue.” Dr. Abd Al-Aziz Fawzan Al-Fawzan (Suadi Arabia): “Someone who denies Allah, worships Christ, son of Mary … do you like these things he says and does? Don’t you hate the faith of such a polytheist? … Whoever says, ‘I don’t hate,’ is not a Muslim. This is not racism, we don’t hate a polytheist because of his colour, gender, blood, country. But, if this person is an infidel, even if this person is my mother or father, Allah forbid, or my son or daughter, I must hate him.” Comment:in short, “hate the Kaffir, the non-Muslim”. Abu Bakr (Australian Cleric): “My religion [Islam] doesn’t tolerate another religion. It doesn’t tolerate. The only one law which needs to spread, it can be here or anywhere else, has to be Islam.” Jamaat-e-Islami spokesman (Pakistan): “Such people [homosexuals] are the curse of society and social garbage, they don’t deserve to be Muslim or Pakistani.” Comment: Nothing like equal rights for all, no – seriously, NOTHING like equal rights. Shaykh Muhammad Hassan (Egypt): “The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said: ‘It is not permissible (to shed) the blood of a Muslim who witnesses that there is no god but Allah and that I am the Messenger of Allah, except for one of the following three conditions … (Third), the one who abandons his religion, and separates himself from the community.’ The hadith is in both of the Sahihs (i.e. Bukhari and Muslim). ‘The one who abandons his religion, and separates himself from the community.’ Islam does not compel anyone to enter it. This (concept) needs to be firmly established. Islam does not compel anyone to enter it. No. There is no compulsion in religion. But rather we preach (Islam) in truth, mercy, propriety, and humility. Whoever says after the preaching—whoever says after (receiving) the preaching and the call (to Islam), “No, I will not enter this religion.” We say to him, “There is no compulsion in religion.” Truth stands out clear from error. We recite the saying of Almighty Allah, “Let him who will believe, and let him who will disbelieve” (Qur’an 18:29). We recite the saying of Allah Almighty, “You have your religion and I have my religion” (Qur’an 109:6). Beautiful. This is after the preaching and the call (to Islam). But if he enters Islam of his own free will and choice, he does not have the right to leave the religion of Allah whenever he wants, to shake the foundations of Muslim society. No, he does not have the right. Absolutely not. But he does have the right, after having (Islam) preached to him, to say, “I will enter” or “I will not enter this religion.” But to enter it just to leave it whenever he wants? No. This is something which is unacceptable in the religion of Almighty Allah. Show me a constitution anywhere on earth which grants this for its citizens. But rather whoever comes out against the constitution of any nation is accused of treason. Everyone familiar with treason knows that the penalty is death. So what do you think about the one who betrays the religion of Allah Almighty, the one who betrays Allah and His Messenger? “O ye who believe! Do not betray Allah and His Messenger, nor knowingly betray your trusts” (Qur’an 8:27).” Comment: Here we see how Islam interprets the “no compulsion in religion” verse, regards apostasy as a “betrayal” of Islam (rather than a matter of personal choice) or as “treason” (because Islam acknowledges no separation between temporal and spiritual authority) and how Islam supports the murder of apostates. It is also worth noting that the Sheikh makes no mention of the fact that if you refuse to convert you are required to become a Dhimmi, which means that whilst you do get to keep your religion, you lose your citizenship. Sheikh Abdul Aziz bin Abdullah, (the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia): “[it is] necessary to destroy all the churches of the region [Arabian Peninsula].” Note: The Grand Mufti made his assertion in response to a question posed by a delegation from Kuwait: a Kuwaiti parliament member recently called for the “removal” of churches (he later “clarified” by saying he merely meant that no churches should be built in Kuwait), and the delegation wanted to confirm Sharia’s position on churches. Accordingly, the Grand Mufti “stressed that Kuwait was a part of the Arabian Peninsula, and therefore it is necessary to destroy all churches in it.” Comment:thus we see how Islam reacts to other faiths within its own borders. On correct Muslim behaviour. Imam Omar Shahin (Tucson, Arizona Islamic Center): “A Muslim must try his best to abide by the rulings of Sharia (Islamic law) whenever possible as much as he can. He should not allow himself to be liable to those western laws that contradict the clear-cut Islamic rulings.” Comment:this is a reference to the doctrines of Tayseer (“ease”) and Darura (“necessity”) – dispensations from following Sharia, born out of necessity – or more accurately, to not over-using this dispensation. In other words it is an obligation to hew as closely to Sharia as possible and (implicitly) to seek to extend Sharia’s sway when possible -e.g. get all Public institutions to offer Halal food as the default, get Muslim-only sessions in Libraries, swimming-pools etc., object to overt displays of Xtian (etc.) symbolism and so forth. Sheikh Muhammed Al-Munajid (Saudi Arabia): “A wife needs to comply with her husband’s desires in bed. This is why he [Allah] ordered the wife to consent to her husband. The wife must consent to her husband’s wishes and obey him. The wife in the West is not obliged to do so. Moreover, a wife can be raped by her husband there.They claim that if he has sex with her against her will, this is rape! They consider this rape! They claim she must be willing! They claim she must want it! Therefore the wife doesn’t submit [to] the man whenever he wants. Comment (sarcastic):fancy thinking that sex with an unwilling woman is rape! Whatever next? Not being allowed to beat the cr*p out of them if they don’t submit to you? Zakir Naik (In Pakistan): “If a Muslim becomes non-Muslim and propagates his/her new religion then there is a death penalty in Islam for such a person.” Comment: In this case, Naik is rationalising apostasy as “treason” to the Umma, but he still maintains it is right to murder people for leaving Islam. This from a “moderate” Muslim. Marzan Al-Sarsawi (Egypt): “Someone who converted and got a taste of the perfection of Islam is not allowed to leave the fold of Islam whenever he feels like it.” Comment: true, he’s murdered to stop him leaving. Although not an “Imam” of any sort, this woman extolling using women for sex-slavery (provided they aren’t Muslim of course) was too dreadful to overlook. Salwa Al-Mteiri (Kuwait): “The Mufti [in Saudi Arabia] that it requires that there to be a Muslim Country raiding [=Razia] a Christian Country, sorry, a non-Muslim one and taking PoWs… He said that Islam does not prohibit having slave-girls. On the contrary. The law pertaining to slave girls is not the same as for free women. … With the free woman the man must make a marriage-contract, but with a slave-girl all he has to do is buy her. It’s as if he married her. [Kuwaiti scholars said] that for the average, good religious man the only way to avoid forbidden relations with women is to purchase slave girls. …I very much hope that such a law is legislated… they should allow slave girls. We don’t want our children to fall into the abyss of fornication and similar filth, god forbid. There are Countries like Chechnya which are at war with another Country. In such cases there must be PoWs, so why not go and buy these prisoners? Is it better for them to be slaughtered over there? Go and buy them and sell them to traders here in Kuwait.” Comment: O where to begin? Just to hit the lowest of the low points: here we have a Muslim woman advocating the capture of foreign women for the sex-slavery – with the proviso that they aren’t Muslim of course. She re-defines the meaning of “PoW” to be “any woman you can capture” and implicitly states that Muslims murder their PoWs (as has happened in Afghanistan to captured Western troops). The worst of it is that what she says is all in accordance with the Koran and Sharia law. Further she regards the repeated rape of a slave as preferable to consensual sex outside marriage. And Muslims call others “immoral”! Sheikh Majid Khadduri: “The term spoil (ghanima) is applied specifically to property acquired by force from non-Muslims. It includes, however, not only property (movable and immovable) but also persons, whether in the capacity of asra (prisoners of war) or sabi (women and children). … If the slave were a woman, the master was permitted to have sexual connection with her as a concubine.” Comment:Let’s be clear: Khadduri is advocating that Muslims use force to despoil non-Muslims, taking their land, goods, chattels, men (as slaves – if they survive the process of castration which was commonly applied), their women (as sex-slaves to be raped whenever the “master” wants) and their children (as child-slaves and sex-slaves) – think Aisha: if its good enough to marry a six year old girl-child and have sex with her at nine then the “master” can, I presume, have sex with a nine-year old girl-slave too; not to mention “thighing” at any age). Imam Mas’oud Anwar (Egypt): Wisdom and compassion require that a killer be put to death, that a married adulterer be stoned, and that the hand of a thief be chopped off. That is true compassion. Chopping off the treacherous hand of a thief, to protect the entire nation, is compassion, mercy, and wisdom. Comment:Thus Islam has an “interesting” definition of “compassion” – Compassion as murder. Marzan Al-Sarsawi: “you tell them [non-Muslims] to convert, [if] they refuse, you tell them to pay the jizya [if] they refuse it means they have evil intentions, [so] fine, we will fight them.” Comment:the “jizya”, a special ‘head-tax’ for non-Muslims – it allows you to keep your head on your shoulders. “Evil intentions”, such dreadful things like preserving liberty and freedom. Shaykh Abu-Ishaq al-Huwayni: “Whoever insults the Prophet (PBUH), if he later comes and apologizes, and kisses the shoes (of the ruler), and says, ‘I want all Muslims, every one, to return and strike me with the soles of their feet’—does the ruler have the right to accept this? I bring up this question, as it was asked of me. The answer is that it is not permissible for anyone to accept this. Then what do we do with him? We kill him! But he told you that he repented. We still kill him, even if he repents!” Comment: The merciful attitude of Islam revealed again. Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi: The Islamic shari’ah governs all of the actions of those who are obligated (to it). There is no act or occurrence which exists without a corresponding ruling from one of the five shari’ah rulings (obligatory, recommended, prohibited, reprehensible, or permitted). This has been confirmed by fundamentalists and scholars from every faction and school of thought associated with Islam… Whoever reads the books of the Islamic shari’ah, I mean the books of Islamic jurisprudence, in its different schools of thought, will find that they comprise all of the affairs of life, from the jurisprudence of purity, to that of the family, society, and the state. This is very clear for every elementary student, not to mention those in the world who are more capable.” Comment: Thus the governance of Sharia is all embracing. On Sex. In response to a gang rape, the Chief Mufti of Australia said, “If she was in her room, in her home, in her Hijab, no problem would have occurred. The Koran gives a similar justification for a head to toe covering for women, “O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies that they may thus be distinguished and not molested.” (Koran 33:59) Comment: thus any woman who isn’t burkha’d is definitely asking, nay begging, to be gang-raped according to the ‘Imam’. You will note there is not the slightest condemnation of the rapists here. A Kurdistani Mullah: “Allah says if a woman disobeys her husband he has the right to beat her, but the lashes should be according to the Sharia … The issue of female circumcision in Kurdistan. The mothers and sisters of more than half of your party members were circumcised. This means that you insult your own grandmother. You insult your own mother. You accuse them of ignorance. Circumcision [FGM] is a tenant of Islamic law (sharia).” Comment:Many Muslims claim that FGM has a social basis – not that that is any better – but this Sheikh gives the lie to that claim. FGM is based in the Sharia. On anti-semitism. Sheik Yusuf al-Qaradawi chief theologian of the Muslim Brotherhood: “Oh Allah, take this oppressive, Jewish, Zionist band of people. Oh Allah, do not spare a single one of them. Oh Allah, count their numbers, and kill them, down to the very last one.” He also declared: “Throughout history, Allah has imposed upon the people [Jews] who would punish them for their corruption. The last punishment was carried out by [Adolf] Hitler.” Comment:Islamic jew-hatred alive and well in the 14st Islamic century – just like every other Islamic century. Yusuf al-Qaradawi:“Throughout history, Allah has imposed upon them (Jews), people who would punish them for their corruption. The last was Hitler …. Allah willing, the next time will be at the hands of believers (Muslims).” Comment:This sounds alarmingly like a call for another holocaust. Imam Miqdam Al-Khadhari (Egypt):This is a very important book, a textbook reader … at Al-Azhar. …the book moves to a topic with a large title, as clear as day: “The Treachery of the Jews.” This title shows what the student is about to learn. It is not talking about something marginal. It’s an important topic. I haven’t seen any curriculum that presents this subject so explicitly. This is the curriculum of 2008. I’m not talking about something ancient. This is now! It’s a textbook from this year or last year. The next title, right after “The Treachery of the Jews” – I think that the camera can show the title… I’d like you to read it, dear brothers… “Islamic Jihad and Its Various Forms.” They teach these topics so that the student will be militarized when he graduates [from Al-Azhar].” Comment: by “militarised” he means indoctrinated to hate Jews (along with all other non-Muslims, but mostly Jews). Imam Unis Al-Astal: “The Jews are brought in droves to Palestine so that the Palestinians and the Islamic nation [Umma, i.e. ALL Muslims] behind them will have the honour of annihilating the evil of this gang. [All other threats] are less dangerous than the Jews. In a few years all the Zionists and settlers will realise that their arrival in Palestine was for the purpose of the great massacre by means of which Allah wants to relieve humanity of their evil. When Palestine is liberated and its people return to it and the entire region, with the grace of Allah, will have turned into the United states of Islam, the land of Palestine will become the capital of the Islamic Caliphate and all these Countries will turn in to states within the Caliphate. When this happens any Palestinian will be able to live anywhere, because the land of Islam is the property of all Muslims. Until this happens we must reject all the resettlement plans, naturalisations, or even reparations prior to the return of the refugees.” Comment:There is a lot here, the usual anti-Semitism, the fact that all the land of the Dar-ul-Islam is solely the property of Muslims (irrespective of who’s living there). Also an admission that the “Palestinian refugees” are self-selecting – they will refuse any naturalisation etc. Sheikh Hussein Ye (Malaysia): “Always in the Koran when it says ‘magndub’ [cursed] (or) ‘ghadab’ [hated] it goes to the Jews.” Comment:thus anti-semitism is institutionalised in Islam by the Koran. Abd Al-Rahman Al-Sudayyis (Imam at the Grand Mosque in Mecca): “The scum of the human race, the rats of the world, the violators of pacts and agreements, the murderers of the prophets, and the offspring of apes and pigs [ are the Jews].” Sheikh Saad al-Beraik (Saudia Arabia), “Muslim brothers in Palestine, do not have any mercy neither compassion on the Jews, their blood, their money, their flesh. Their women are yours to take, legitimately. God made them yours. Why don’t you enslave their women? Why don’t you wage jihad? Why don’t you pillage them?” The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem (2012): “our war with the descendants of the apes and pigs [i.e. Jews] is a war of religion and faith… since Umar came and continuing until the end of days, the reliable Hadith [of] Bukhari and Muslim says: ‘The hour will not come until you fight the Jews. The Jew will hide behind stones or trees, then the stones or trees will call: “Oh Muslim, servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him!” Except for the Gharqad tree, therefore it is no wonder that you see gharqads surrounding the settlements and colonies [of Jews].” Note: Caliph Umar captured Jerusalem in 637 A.D. Hazem Shuman (Egypt), 2012: [After castigating Egyptians for not fighting Jews, assuring Jews that all 85 million Egyptians hate them and want them dead, he finishes with] “Jews are a cancer. These Jews are a catastrophe. There is not a catastrophe in the world that is not the handiwork of the Jews. These Jews are a cancer in the body of planet Earth, and if permitted, it will spread and infect the entire body. Getting rid of these Jews is a must.” Other “interesting” quotes. Imam Muhammad Hassan (Egypt): “We are talking about the principles of the shari’a. The truth is that democracy in the Western sense is for the people to rule itself in disregard for the law of Allah, and this I do not accept.” Comment: In other words the only form of ‘democracy’ permissible under Islam is one that conforms to Sharia Law, a-la Iran. Sheik Nasr Farid Wassel (Egypt): “The martyr Bin Laden, Allah’s mercy upon him, waged Jihad for the sake of Allah against the Soviets and against America…There was a call at the Al-Nour Mosque to pray for the soul of Bin Laden since he is a martyr. But I said that we were forbidden to pray for the soul of a martyr and that Bin Laden lives on. He is not dead. “Do not consider those who were killed for the sake of Allah to be dead. They live on, sustained by their Lord.”” Comment: And I thought that (some of) the mosques weren’t praying for OBL because they did not agree with his actions. Oh silly me! Shaykh ‘Abd-al-’Azim (Egypt): I want to say that democracy is a bad idea. We should not feel ashamed to say it. It is a bad, backward, and retarded idea, which is taken from Greece. Democracy is spoken of like it’s a modern discovery, but it’s not. Even the freedoms, what are they? Among the freedoms inherent in the democratic system are freedom for women, freedom of ownership, freedom of homosexuality, personal freedom, freedom of conscience and expression,freedom to disbelieve in the Creator of Heaven and Earth. There’s mixing (of men and women), usury, all of this is in democracy, which is why I condemn it. Comment: In Islam, therefore, there is no freedom for women, personal freedom, freedom of speech or religion etc. Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed: “Islam allows me to take the benefits the system offers. 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