Pinpin yang sedeng udah keleleran lagi... Lantas, sebagaimana lazimnya, dia ngacir dari topik sembari jungkir balik dan muter-muter... Saya ulang menyampaikan apa yang saya katakan dan yang tidak bisa dibantahnya: "Sedeng... Yang kudu dipegagn itu fikirannya yang sudah mateng, yang ditulisnya dengan tangannnya sendiri dan bukan omongannnya ketika dia masih mencari-cari jawaban atau kutipan yang tidak bersumber dari tulisan tangannnya sendiri.... Terlepas dari itu: buat dia semua agama itu cuman takhayul doang.."
--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "pinpinyuliansyah" <pinpinyuliansyah@...> wrote: > > Uplik tahu nddak, einstein pernah ditegur sama kernet kereta api karena salah > menghitung uang kembalian ? ( Si kernet nddak mudeng kalau yang "dimarahin" > nddak becus ngitung itu adalah einstein !) > > Uplik pan tahu einstein itu dipandang nddak mampu waktu di sekolahan ... > > Artinya plik, adalah benar einstein itu pinter dalam satu bidang, namun bukan > berarti si beliau ini bisa dijadikan rulemodel buat segala bidang. Dalam > bidang ketuhanan atawa ilmu agama misalnya ... apanan einstein mah bukan > pemerhati agama, apalagi pemerhati ketuhanan :-) > > Misalnya plik, habiebie dipandang pinter di bidang pesawat terbang, tapi > apanan dia bukan berarti pinter dalam segala bidang. Dalam arti habiebie > kalau diajak main bilyard sama johny, apanan belum tentu menang. > > Uplik ( karena kurang percaya diri ) mengidolakan einstein, dan uplik merasa > sama cerdas nya dengan eisntein karena anggap deh sama -sama nganggap agama > itu takhayul. Anak saya yang SMP seneng sama Super Junior, lantas ... apakah > anak saya juga harus memiliki pemikiran yang sama tentang tuhan dan agama > seperti boy band suju itu ? > > saat uplik menganggap agama itu takhayul dengan berlindung dari pernyataan > robert einstein yang menyatakan hal itu, artinya bukan uplik terbukti sama > cerdas nya dengan einstein, namun ini membuktikan uplik punya masalah kurang > percaya diri. > > Mentality Problem. > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Pinpin yang sedeng udah keleleran lagi... > > > > Lantas, sebagaimana lazimnya, dia ngacir dari topik sembari jungki balik > > dan muter-muter... > > > > Saya ulang menyampaikan apa yang saya katakan dan yang tidak bisa > > dibantahnya: > > > > "Sedeng... > > > > Yang kudu dipegagn itu fikirannya yang sudah mateng, yang ditulisnya dengan > > tangannnya sendiri dan bukan omongannnya ketika dia masih mencari-cari > > jawaban atau kutipan yang tidak bersumber dari tulisan tangannnya > > sendiri.... > > > > Terlepas dari itu: buat dia semua agama itu cuman takhayul doang.." > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "pinpinyuliansyah" <pinpinyuliansyah@> > > wrote: > > > > > > pan elo mah cara mikir nya koplok pisan. > > > elo nganggep elo secerdas einstein > > > karena elo berpandangan agama = takhayul. > > > > > > barangsiapa yang berpandangan agama = takhayul > > > maka ia pinter seperti einstein. > > > > > > cara berpikir yang koplok nian. > > > hina. > > > kerak kenistaan teh nu kitu tah uplik tah ... > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sedeng... > > > > > > > > Yang kudu dipegagn itu fikirannya yang sudah mateng, yang ditulisnya > > > > dengan tangannnya sendiri dan bukan omongannnya ketika dia masih > > > > mencari-cari jawaban atau kutipan yang tidak bersumber dari tulisan > > > > tangannnya sendiri.... > > > > > > > > Terlepas dari itu: buat dia semua agama itu cuman takhayul doang.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "pinpinyuliansyah" <pinpinyuliansyah@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Albert Einstein and Religion > > > > > > > > > > (The following quotes are taken from The Quotable Einstein, Princeton > > > > > University Press unless otherwise noted) > > > > > > > > > > "My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable > > > > > superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able > > > > > to perceive with our frail and feeble minds. That deeply emotional > > > > > conviction of the presence of a superior reasoning power, which is > > > > > revealed in the incomprehensible universe, forms my idea of God." > > > > > > > > > > (The following is from Einstein and Religion by Max Jammer, Princeton > > > > > University Press) > > > > > "I'm not an atheist, and I don't think I can call myself a pantheist. > > > > > We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library > > > > > filled with books in many languages. The child knows someone must > > > > > have written those books. It does not know how. It does not > > > > > understand the languages in which they are written. The child dimly > > > > > suspects a mysterious order in the arrangement of the books but > > > > > doesn't know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of > > > > > even the most intelligent human being toward God. We see the universe > > > > > marvelously arranged and obeying certain laws but only dimly > > > > > understand these laws. Our limited minds grasp the mysterious force > > > > > that moves the constellations." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (The following is from The Quotable Einstein) > > > > > "Thus I came...to a deep religiosity, which, however, reached an > > > > > abrupt end at the age of 12. Through the reading of popular > > > > > scientific books I soon reached a conviction that much in the stories > > > > > of the Bible could not be true....Suspicion against every kind of > > > > > authority grew out of this experience...an attitude which has never > > > > > left me." > > > > > > > > > > "I don't try to imagine a God; it suffices to stand in awe of the > > > > > structure of the world, insofar as it allows our inadequate senses to > > > > > appreciate it." > > > > > > > > > > "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." > > > > > > > > > > "I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his > > > > > creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own - a God, in short, > > > > > who is but a reflection of human frailty. It is enough for me to > > > > > contemplate the mystery of conscious life perpetuating itself through > > > > > all eternity, to reflect upon the marvelous structure of the universe > > > > > which we can dimly perceive and to try humbly to comprehend even an > > > > > infinitesimal part of the intelligence manifested in Nature." > > > > > > > > > > "The scientist is possessed by the sense of universal causation. His > > > > > religious feeling takes the form of a rapturous amazement at the > > > > > harmony of natural law, which reveals an intelligence of such > > > > > superiority that , compared with it, all the systematic thinking and > > > > > acting of human beings is an utterly insignificant reflection." > > > > > > > > > > ". . . In spite of all this, I don't let a single opportunity pass > > > > > unheeded, nor have I lost my sense of humor. When God created the > > > > > ass he gave him a thick skin." Einstein: The Life and Times by Ronald > > > > > W. Clark, Avon Books. > > > > > > > > > > "Where dull-witted clansmen of our tribe were praying aloud, their > > > > > faces turned to the wall, their bodies swaying to and fro. A pathetic > > > > > sight of men with a past but without a future." (Regarding his visit > > > > > to the Wailing Wall in Jerusalem, February 3, 1923) > > > > > > > > > > "Should we be unable to find a way to honest cooperation and honest > > > > > pacts with the Arabs, then we have learned absolutely nothing during > > > > > our 2,000 years of suffering and deserve all that will come to us." > > > > > > > > > > "I appeal to all men and women, whether they be eminent or humble, to > > > > > declare that they will refuse to give any further assistance to war > > > > > or the preparation of war." > > > > > > > > > > "It is my belief that the problem of bringing peace to the world on a > > > > > supranational basis will be solved only by employing Gandhi's method > > > > > on a larger scale." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The following is from Elsa Einstein, Albert Einstein's wife, > > > > > regarding Einstein's development of the theory of general relativity. > > > > > It's taken from the outstanding book Einstein and Religion by Max > > > > > Jammer. It's originally taken from Charles Chaplin's autobiography > > > > > and widely quoted in journals, bios and even as the conference calls > > > > > for papers about Einstein's most famous theory. > > > > > > > > > > The Doctor came down in his dressing gown as usual for breakfast but > > > > > he hardly touched a thing. I thought something was wrong, so I asked > > > > > what was troubling him. "Darling," he said, "I have a wonderful > > > > > idea." And after drinking his coffee, he went to the piano and > > > > > started playing. Now and again he would stop, making a few notes then > > > > > repeat: "I've got a wonderful idea, a marvelous idea!" I said: "Then > > > > > for goodness' sake tell me what it is, don't keep me in suspense." He > > > > > said: "It's difficult, I still have to work it out." > > > > > > > > > > She told me he continued playing the piano and making notes for about > > > > > half an hour, then went upstairs to his study, telling her that he > > > > > did not wish to be disturbed, and remained there for two weeks. "Each > > > > > day I sent him up his meals," she said, "and in the evening he would > > > > > walk a little for exercise, then return to his work again. > > > > > Eventually," she said, "he came down from his study looking very > > > > > pale. "That's it," he told me, wearily putting two sheets of paper on > > > > > the table. And that was his theory of relativity." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sedeng... > > > > > > > > > > > > Begitu jelas dia bilang "The word God is for me nothing more than > > > > > > the expression and product of human weaknesses," > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "pinpinyuliansyah" > > > > > > <pinpinyuliansyah@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Einstein Itu Deism Plik ... Bukan Atheism ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Coba tengok ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "I don't try to imagine a God; it suffices to stand in awe of the > > > > > > > structure of the world, insofar as it allows our inadequate > > > > > > > senses to appreciate it." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is > > > > > > > blind." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Baca di sini .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.deism.com/einstein.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The following is from Elsa Einstein, Albert Einstein's wife, > > > > > > > regarding Einstein's development of the theory of general > > > > > > > relativity. It's taken from the outstanding book Einstein and > > > > > > > Religion by Max Jammer. It's originally taken from Charles > > > > > > > Chaplin's autobiography and widely quoted in journals, bios and > > > > > > > even as the conference calls for papers about Einstein's most > > > > > > > famous theory. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jadi Einstein itu bilang semua agama itu cuman takhayul doang... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan yang ngomong itu bukan orang sedeng munafik, tukang fitnah > > > > > > > > dan tukang nyabo kayak suryana, tapi orang pinter... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agar jelas: omongan Einstein itu layak direnungkan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Selanjutnya saya kutip pendapat Hawking: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "When Sawyer asked if there was a way to reconcile religion and > > > > > > > > science, Hawking said, "There is a fundamental difference > > > > > > > > between religion, which is based on authority, [and] science, > > > > > > > > which is based on observation and reason. Science will win > > > > > > > > because it works." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://abcnews.go.com/WN/Technology/stephen-hawking-religion-science-win/story?id=10830164#.UHkEffcTmSo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "suryana" <gsuryana@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hehehe bloon surat Einstein pada dasarnya masih ambigu, > > > > > > > > > sayang pengertian > > > > > > > > > ambigu tidak bisa dimengerti. > > > > > > > > > Einstein ingin atheis, siapa yg melarang ?, apa karena jenius > > > > > > > > > maka harus > > > > > > > > > jadi atheis, lha disini ada binatang yg otaknya di peler, > > > > > > > > > boro boro jenius, > > > > > > > > > jauh panggang dari api. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yg menjadi pointku mengirim bukan karena isi suratnya, > > > > > > > > > melainkan koq ada > > > > > > > > > orang mau beli surat tsb dengan harga yg bisa dibelikan sikat > > > > > > > > > gigi elektrik > > > > > > > > > dan jam tangan ber gps masing masing puluhan kontainer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > > From: "muskitawati" <muskitawati@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jadi semua orang2 tua yang ingin anaknya seperti Einstein > > > > > > > > > > agar menjauhkan > > > > > > > > > > racun2 yang merusak otak anaknya tentang klenik2 > > > > > > > > > > penyembahan Allah, Tuhan, > > > > > > > > > > dewa dewi, dan mistik2 lainnya. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hal ini terutama sangat penting bagi umat Islam dan mereka > > > > > > > > > > yang hidup > > > > > > > > > > dalam lingkungan yang Islam. 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