Goyim tolol postingan elu kebanyakan bohong nya
mendingan balik ke Agama leluhur bapak moyang elu percuma elu kagak ngerti apa yang elu tulis. ________________________________ From: itemabu2 <itema...@gmail.com> To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2013 1:31 AM Subject: Re: [proletar] Saudi "marriage officiant": Muhammad married Aisha when she was six and had sex with her when she was nine Ulama sih ngaku bhw si Aisha diembat di usia 9 thn, makanya si Syekh Puji jg ga malu2 ngembat anak 12 thn dan siap jg unt ngembat anak 9 dan 7 thn. Tp ada orang2 Islam yg beda selera, mungkin mereka ngidap Oedipus complex, jadi mereka suka cewek tua yg pantes jadi ibu mereka. Jadi mereka ga milih hadis yg ngehalalin pedophiia, nyarinya hadis yg ngehalalin ngembat janda tua. Itu sih soal selera, kita ga bs ngomong. Cuma nabi Islam itu emang hrs dikagumi, lengkap dan komplit, pedophile ngerangkap Oedipus complex, sex maniak, tukang merkosa, sadistik, mungkin jg bisexual. Makanya, siapa aja yg punya kelainan sex, bisa tetap menjadikan nabi Islam sbg suri tauladannya, tinggal milih menu sesuai selera. Memang unt para bajingan keparat, nabi Islam itu pantas dijadikan suri tauladan. (Si Teddy pasti mikir gua lagi muji2 nabi Islam sang super majikannya). On 2/5/13, Rahwana <nyawa.ib...@gmail.com> wrote: > dulu sahabat nabi kaga tau nulis kisah nabi seperti itu bakalan jadi aib > buat si nabi dimasa datang...makanya orang islam sekarang pada kelojotan > nutup2in-nya....hehehehehe...... > > On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Jack Fanotona > <jack_fanot...@yahoo.com>wrote: > >> ** >> >> >> Itu siih ah jelas, si Aisyah di 'Embat' pertama kali umur 6 - 9 tahun. >> nah >> sekarang karna kitab suci juga di selidiki kebenarannya >> maka 'diputar-putar', 'dicari-cari' alasan pembenarannya. >> >> Kalau Aisyah di 'Embat' pertama kali umur 13 tahun itu dah ketuaan untuk >> ukuran seorang laki2. dah 'layu' >> >> ________________________________ >> Dari: itemabu2 itema...@gmail.com> >> Kepada: proletar@yahoogroups.com >> Dikirim: Selasa, 5 Februari 2013 10:25 >> Judul: Re: [proletar] Saudi "marriage officiant": Muhammad married Aisha >> when she was six and had sex with her when she was nine >> >> >> Islam menghalalkan ngembat anak ingusan, termasuk yg belum mens. >> Apakah orang Islam mempraktekkannya apa ga, harusnya ajaran Islam itu >> dilarang krn ngajarin kebejadan. >> >> Orang Islam boleh ga mraktekin pedophilia tsb, tp kalo ada yg >> melakukannya dgn berdalih Quran dan sunnah menghalalkannya, ga ada >> orang Islam yg bisa menyalahkannya secara agama, krn memang Islam >> ngehalalin. >> >> Jadi, Islam itu hrs dilarang beredar sama sekali. >> >> On 2/5/13, Gabriella Rantau gkran...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> > >> > >> > Umm Mukminun, si imut2 Aisha sendiri mengatakan bhw dia umur 6 (enam) >> tahun >> > waktu Rasulullah datang ke rumah ortunya untuk MENULIS kontrak >> perkawinan. >> > >> > Aisha sendiri dlm hadist lain menyatakan bhw dia berumur 9 (sembilan) >> tahun >> > ketika dia dibawa oleh ibunya ke rumah (tenda?) Rasulullah di sore >> > hari. >> > Hadist lain mengisahkan Aisha berkata: 'Aku belumpernah seKAGET itu >> sampai >> > ketika Rasulullaah 'memasuki' aku. >> > >> > Selama beratus tahun umat Islam tidak pernah peduli umur berapa si >> > Imut2 >> > dilamar, ditiduri oleh Rasulullah. Dengan banyaknya non-Muslim >> mempelajari >> > Qur'an dan ahadeeth dan mulai bertanya2, baru banyak Islamic apologists >> > mengatakan bhw Aisha ditiduri umur 13 sampaiu dengan umur 18. >> > >> > SEmuanya sudah lewat. Yg penting semoga Muslims tidak lagi >> > mempraktikkan >> > kebiasaan tak terpuji ini. >> > >> > Gabriella >> > >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > From: Musik hari Ini musikhari...@yahoo.com> >> > To: "proletar@yahoogroups.com" proletar@yahoogroups.com> >> > Sent: Monday, 4 February 2013 10:43 AM >> > Subject: Re: [proletar] Saudi "marriage officiant": Muhammad married >> Aisha >> > when she was six and had sex with her when she was nine >> > >> > >> > >> > Goyim tolol >> > >> > Menurut Tabari, keempat anak Abu Bakar (termasuk Aisyah) dilahirkan >> > oleh >> > istrinya pada zaman Jahiliyah, artinya sebelum 610 M.[3] Apabila Aisyah >> > dinikahkan sebelum 620 M, maka ia dinikahkan pada umur >> > di atas 10 tahun dan hidup sebagai suami-istri dengan Muhammad dalam >> > umur di atas 13 tahun. Menurut Abd alRahman bin Abi Zannad: “Asmah 10 >> > tahun lebih tua dari Aisyah.”[4] Menurut Ibnu Hajar al-'Asqalani, Asmah >> > hidup hingga usia 100 tahun dan meninggal tahun 73 atau 74 Hijriyah.[5] >> > Apabila Asmah meninggal dalam usia 100 tahun dan meninggal dalam tahun >> > 73 atau 74 Hijriyah, maka Asma berumur 27 atau 28 tahun pada waktu >> > Hijrah, sehingga Aisyah berumur (27 atau 28) - 10 = 17 atau 18 tahun >> > pada waktu Hijrah. Itu berarti Aisyah mulai hidup berumah tangga dengan >> > Muhammad >> > pada waktu berumur 19 atau 20 tahun. >> > Sedangkan menurut Sahih Al-Bukhari, Aisyah sendiri mengatakan bahwa >> > dirinya dinikahi oleh Muhammad ketika berumur 6 (enam) tahun.[6] >> > Pandangan ini juga berlaku di kalangan umat islam tertentu. >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > From: itemabu2 itema...@gmail.com> >> > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com >> > Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 9:41 PM >> > Subject: Re: [proletar] Saudi "marriage officiant": Muhammad married >> Aisha >> > when she was six and had sex with her when she was nine >> > >> > Menurut Tabari >> > >> > “My mother came to me while I was being swung on a swing between two >> > branches and got me down. My nurse took over and wiped my face with >> > some water and started leading me. When I was at the door she stopped >> > so I could catch my breath. I was brought in while Muhammad was >> > sitting on a bed in our house. My mother made me sit on his lap. The >> > other men and women got up and left. The Prophet consummated his >> > marriage with me in my house when I was nine years old. Neither a >> > camel nor a sheep was slaughtered on behalf of me.” >> > Al-Tabari, Vol. 9, p. 131 >> > >> > On 2/4/13, Musik hari Ini musikhari...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> Goyim tolol >> >> >> >> Menurut Tabari, keempat anak Abu Bakar (termasuk Aisyah) dilahirkan >> >> oleh >> >> istrinya pada zaman Jahiliyah, artinya sebelum 610 M.[3] Apabila >> >> Aisyah >> >> dinikahkan sebelum 620 M, maka ia dinikahkan pada umur >> >> di atas 10 tahun dan hidup sebagai suami-istri dengan Muhammad dalam >> >> umur di atas 13 tahun. Menurut Abd alRahman bin Abi Zannad: “Asmah 10 >> >> tahun >> >> lebih tua dari Aisyah.”[4] Menurut Ibnu Hajar al-'Asqalani, Asmah >> >> hidup >> >> hingga usia 100 tahun dan meninggal tahun 73 atau 74 Hijriyah.[5] >> Apabila >> >> Asmah meninggal dalam usia 100 tahun dan meninggal dalam tahun >> >> 73 atau 74 Hijriyah, maka Asma berumur 27 atau 28 tahun pada waktu >> >> Hijrah, >> >> sehingga Aisyah berumur (27 atau 28) - 10 = 17 atau 18 tahun pada >> >> waktu >> >> Hijrah. Itu berarti Aisyah mulai hidup berumah tangga dengan Muhammad >> >> pada waktu berumur 19 atau 20 tahun. >> >> Sedangkan menurut Sahih Al-Bukhari, Aisyah sendiri mengatakan bahwa >> >> dirinya >> >> dinikahi oleh Muhammad ketika berumur 6 (enam) tahun.[6] Pandangan ini >> >> juga >> >> berlaku di kalangan umat islam tertentu. >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: itemabu2 itema...@gmail.com> >> >> To: proletar@yahoogroups.com >> >> Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 9:31 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [proletar] Saudi "marriage officiant": Muhammad married >> >> Aisha >> >> when she was six and had sex with her when she was nine >> >> >> >> Narrated Aisha: "The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six >> >> (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith >> >> bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair >> >> grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing >> >> in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to >> >> her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the >> >> hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless >> >> then, and when my breathing became Alright, she took some water and >> >> rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. >> >> There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and >> >> Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and >> >> they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came >> >> to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that >> >> time I was a girl of nine years of age. >> >> Sahih Bukhari 5:58:234 >> >> >> >> >> >> On 2/3/13, Musik hari Ini musikhari...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>> Goyim tolol >> >>> >> >>> kagak ada di CNN atau msnbc.....referesi dari jahatwatch >> >>> >> >>> kebanyakan bohong nya sama kayak elu dkk >> >>> >> >>> isinya total fitnahan. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ________________________________ >> >>> From: itemabu2 itema...@gmail.com> >> >>> To: proletar proletar@yahoogroups.com> >> >>> Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 5:01 PM >> >>> Subject: [proletar] Saudi "marriage officiant": Muhammad married >> >>> Aisha >> >>> when >> >>> she was six and had sex with her when she was nine >> >>> >> >>> Ulama Saudi ngeluarin fatwa spy bayi perempuan hrs make jilbab unt >> >>> ngelindungi bayi tsb dr pemerkosaan oleh orang2 Islam. Ga aneh, krn >> >>> nabi itu jg doyan anak ingusan dan nabi adalah contoh yg baik unt >> >>> orang Islam, maka bayi perempuan itu emang hrs dilindungi dr nabi dan >> >>> orang2 Islam yg soleh pengikut nabi. >> >>> >> >>> "Dr. Ahmad Al-Mu'bi: He married her at the age of six, and he >> >>> consummated the marriage, by having sex with her for the first time, >> >>> when she was nine. We consider the Prophet Muhammad to be our model." >> >>> >> >>> Hehehe... suri tauladan orang Islam itu adalah nabi yg kawin dgn anak >> >>> 6 thn dan ngembat si anak di usia 9 thn. Islam itu emang agama yg >> >>> benar, benar2 bejad. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/06/saudi-marriage-officiant-muhammad-married-aisha-when-she-was-six-and-had-sex-with-her-when-she-was-n.html >> >>> >> >>> Saudi "marriage officiant": Muhammad married Aisha when she was six >> >>> and had sex with her when she was nine >> >>> >> >>> Over the years I've gotten a great deal of abuse for telling the >> >>> truth >> >>> about Islam and jihad here, but probably more for pointing out that >> >>> Islamic tradition says that Muhammad married Aisha when she was six >> >>> and consummated the marriage when she was nine, and that he is >> >>> exemplary in this for Islamic law, than for anything else. See, to >> >>> take just one of many examples, here. Of course, the righteous >> >>> indignation over my alleged misrepresentation of this issue is simply >> >>> another manifestation of the general deceptive smokescreen that >> >>> Islamic supremacists deploy in the West. >> >>> >> >>> But this MEMRI clip proves the only point I have ever wanted to make >> >>> about this issue: that Muhammad's example in this has been taken and >> >>> is still taken as worthy of imitation. >> >>> >> >>> "Dr. Ahmad Al-Mub'i, a Saudi Marriage Officiant: It Is Allowed to >> >>> Marry a Girl at the Age of One, If Sex Is Postponed. The Prophet >> >>> Muhammad, Whose Model We Follow, Married 'Aisha When She Was Six and >> >>> Had Sex with Her When She Was Nine," from MEMRITV, June 19 (thanks to >> >>> all who sent this in): >> >>> >> >>> Following are excerpts from an interview with Dr. Ahmad Al-Mu'bi, >> >>> a Saudi marriage officiant, which aired on LBC TV on June 19, 2008: >> >>> >> >>> Dr. Ahmad Al-Mu'bi: Marriage is actually two things: First we are >> >>> talking about the marriage contract itself. This is one thing, while >> >>> consummating the marriage – having sex with the wife for the first >> >>> time – is another thing. There is no minimal age for entering >> >>> marriage. You can have a marriage contract even with a one-year-old >> >>> girl, not to mention a girl of nine, seven, or eight. This is merely >> >>> a >> >>> contract [indicating] consent. The guardian in such a case must be >> >>> the >> >>> father, because the father's opinion is obligatory. Thus, the girl >> >>> becomes a wife... But is the girl ready for sex or not? What is the >> >>> appropriate age for having sex for the first time? This varies >> >>> according to environment and traditions. In Yemen, girls are married >> >>> off at nine, ten, eleven, eight, or thirteen, while in other >> >>> countries, they are married off at 16. Some countries have legislated >> >>> laws forbidding having sex before the girl is eighteen. >> >>> >> >>> [...] >> >>> >> >>> The Prophet Muhammad is the model we follow. He took 'Aisha to be >> >>> his wife when she was six, but he had sex with her only when she was >> >>> nine. >> >>> >> >>> Interviewer: When she was six... >> >>> >> >>> Dr. Ahmad Al-Mu'bi: He married her at the age of six, and he >> >>> consummated the marriage, by having sex with her for the first time, >> >>> when she was nine. We consider the Prophet Muhammad to be our model. >> >>> >> >>> Interviewer: My question to you is whether the marriage of a >> >>> 12-year-old boy with an 11-year-old girl is a logical marriage, which >> >>> is permitted by Islamic law. >> >>> >> >>> Dr. Ahmad Al-Mu'bi: If the guardian is the father... There are two >> >>> different types of guardianship. If the guardian is the father, and >> >>> he >> >>> marries his daughter off to a man of appropriate standing, the >> >>> marriage is obviously valid. >> >>> >> >>> [...] >> >>> >> >>> People find themselves in all kinds of circumstances. Take, for >> >>> example, a man who has two, three, or four daughters. He does not >> >>> have >> >>> any wives, but he needs to go on a trip. Isn't it better to marry his >> >>> daughter to a man, who will protect and sustain her, and when she >> >>> reaches the proper age, he will have sex with her? 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