hwakakakaka.....tua bangka edan, bani qedar dungu... malah percaya sama kibulan nabinya arab primitif... malah ngigau nyiumin batu item sambil lari lari anjing gitu....sarappp....hehehehe.....
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Musik hari Ini <musikhari...@yahoo.com>wrote: > ** > > > Goyim tolol > > edan sungguh edan si tua kepala batu yang satu ini > kalian yang sudah pada bau tanah tiap2 hari cuma merindukan yesus > > yang tak pernah ada.....sampai kalian ngigau buat patung&lukisan > > yesus itu tuhan nya orang eropa,terusan dari zeus pagan > > bukan buat kalian tentunya............semua yang patut disebut tuhan > datang dari benua Asia.....sungguh2 cilaka kalian ini. > > > ________________________________ > From: Rahwana nyawa.ib...@gmail.com> > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2013 8:26 PM > > Subject: Re: [proletar] Saudi "marriage officiant": Muhammad married Aisha > when she was six and had sex with her when she was nine > > hwakakakak....tua bangka edan, udah bau tanah bukannya mikir punya nabi > sedeng kaya gitu malah nanya soal sejarah kemerdekaan...hwakakakakak..... > > On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Musik hari Ini musikhari...@yahoo.com > >wrote: > > > ** > > > > > > > Goyim tolol > > kebanyakan hayal sepertinya itu > > > > pertanyaan gua apa kontribusi Agama keresten buat kemerdekaan RI? > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Rahwana nyawa.ib...@gmail.com> > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2013 1:23 AM > > > > Subject: Re: [proletar] Saudi "marriage officiant": Muhammad married > Aisha > > when she was six and had sex with her when she was nine > > > > dulu sahabat nabi kaga tau nulis kisah nabi seperti itu bakalan jadi aib > > buat si nabi dimasa datang...makanya orang islam sekarang pada kelojotan > > nutup2in-nya....hehehehehe...... > > > > On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Jack Fanotona jack_fanot...@yahoo.com > > >wrote: > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > Itu siih ah jelas, si Aisyah di 'Embat' pertama kali umur 6 - 9 tahun. > > nah > > > sekarang karna kitab suci juga di selidiki kebenarannya > > > maka 'diputar-putar', 'dicari-cari' alasan pembenarannya. > > > > > > Kalau Aisyah di 'Embat' pertama kali umur 13 tahun itu dah ketuaan > untuk > > > ukuran seorang laki2. dah 'layu' > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > Dari: itemabu2 itema...@gmail.com> > > > Kepada: proletar@yahoogroups.com > > > Dikirim: Selasa, 5 Februari 2013 10:25 > > > Judul: Re: [proletar] Saudi "marriage officiant": Muhammad married > Aisha > > > when she was six and had sex with her when she was nine > > > > > > > > > Islam menghalalkan ngembat anak ingusan, termasuk yg belum mens. > > > Apakah orang Islam mempraktekkannya apa ga, harusnya ajaran Islam itu > > > dilarang krn ngajarin kebejadan. > > > > > > Orang Islam boleh ga mraktekin pedophilia tsb, tp kalo ada yg > > > melakukannya dgn berdalih Quran dan sunnah menghalalkannya, ga ada > > > orang Islam yg bisa menyalahkannya secara agama, krn memang Islam > > > ngehalalin. > > > > > > Jadi, Islam itu hrs dilarang beredar sama sekali. > > > > > > On 2/5/13, Gabriella Rantau gkran...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Umm Mukminun, si imut2 Aisha sendiri mengatakan bhw dia umur 6 (enam) > > > tahun > > > > waktu Rasulullah datang ke rumah ortunya untuk MENULIS kontrak > > > perkawinan. > > > > > > > > Aisha sendiri dlm hadist lain menyatakan bhw dia berumur 9 (sembilan) > > > tahun > > > > ketika dia dibawa oleh ibunya ke rumah (tenda?) Rasulullah di sore > > hari. > > > > Hadist lain mengisahkan Aisha berkata: 'Aku belumpernah seKAGET itu > > > sampai > > > > ketika Rasulullaah 'memasuki' aku. > > > > > > > > Selama beratus tahun umat Islam tidak pernah peduli umur berapa si > > Imut2 > > > > dilamar, ditiduri oleh Rasulullah. Dengan banyaknya non-Muslim > > > mempelajari > > > > Qur'an dan ahadeeth dan mulai bertanya2, baru banyak Islamic > apologists > > > > mengatakan bhw Aisha ditiduri umur 13 sampaiu dengan umur 18. > > > > > > > > SEmuanya sudah lewat. Yg penting semoga Muslims tidak lagi > > mempraktikkan > > > > kebiasaan tak terpuji ini. > > > > > > > > Gabriella > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: Musik hari Ini musikhari...@yahoo.com> > > > > To: "proletar@yahoogroups.comprole...@yahoogroups.com> > > > > Sent: Monday, 4 February 2013 10:43 AM > > > > Subject: Re: [proletar] Saudi "marriage officiant": Muhammad married > > > Aisha > > > > when she was six and had sex with her when she was nine > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Goyim tolol > > > > > > > > Menurut Tabari, keempat anak Abu Bakar (termasuk Aisyah) dilahirkan > > oleh > > > > istrinya pada zaman Jahiliyah, artinya sebelum 610 M.[3] Apabila > Aisyah > > > > dinikahkan sebelum 620 M, maka ia dinikahkan pada umur > > > > di atas 10 tahun dan hidup sebagai suami-istri dengan Muhammad dalam > > > > umur di atas 13 tahun. Menurut Abd alRahman bin Abi Zannad: Asmah 10 > > > > tahun lebih tua dari Aisyah.[4] Menurut Ibnu Hajar al-'Asqalani, > Asmah > > > > hidup hingga usia 100 tahun dan meninggal tahun 73 atau 74 > Hijriyah.[5] > > > > Apabila Asmah meninggal dalam usia 100 tahun dan meninggal dalam > tahun > > > > 73 atau 74 Hijriyah, maka Asma berumur 27 atau 28 tahun pada waktu > > > > Hijrah, sehingga Aisyah berumur (27 atau 28) - 10 = 17 atau 18 tahun > > > > pada waktu Hijrah. Itu berarti Aisyah mulai hidup berumah tangga > dengan > > > > Muhammad > > > > pada waktu berumur 19 atau 20 tahun. > > > > Sedangkan menurut Sahih Al-Bukhari, Aisyah sendiri mengatakan bahwa > > > > dirinya dinikahi oleh Muhammad ketika berumur 6 (enam) tahun.[6] > > > > Pandangan ini juga berlaku di kalangan umat islam tertentu. > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: itemabu2 itema...@gmail.com> > > > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com > > > > Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 9:41 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [proletar] Saudi "marriage officiant": Muhammad married > > > Aisha > > > > when she was six and had sex with her when she was nine > > > > > > > > Menurut Tabari > > > > > > > > My mother came to me while I was being swung on a swing between two > > > > branches and got me down. My nurse took over and wiped my face with > > > > some water and started leading me. When I was at the door she stopped > > > > so I could catch my breath. I was brought in while Muhammad was > > > > sitting on a bed in our house. My mother made me sit on his lap. The > > > > other men and women got up and left. The Prophet consummated his > > > > marriage with me in my house when I was nine years old. Neither a > > > > camel nor a sheep was slaughtered on behalf of me. > > > > Al-Tabari, Vol. 9, p. 131 > > > > > > > > On 2/4/13, Musik hari Ini musikhari...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > >> Goyim tolol > > > >> > > > >> Menurut Tabari, keempat anak Abu Bakar (termasuk Aisyah) dilahirkan > > oleh > > > >> istrinya pada zaman Jahiliyah, artinya sebelum 610 M.[3] Apabila > > Aisyah > > > >> dinikahkan sebelum 620 M, maka ia dinikahkan pada umur > > > >> di atas 10 tahun dan hidup sebagai suami-istri dengan Muhammad dalam > > > >> umur di atas 13 tahun. Menurut Abd alRahman bin Abi Zannad: Asmah > 10 > > > >> tahun > > > >> lebih tua dari Aisyah.[4] Menurut Ibnu Hajar al-'Asqalani, Asmah > > hidup > > > >> hingga usia 100 tahun dan meninggal tahun 73 atau 74 Hijriyah.[5] > > > Apabila > > > >> Asmah meninggal dalam usia 100 tahun dan meninggal dalam tahun > > > >> 73 atau 74 Hijriyah, maka Asma berumur 27 atau 28 tahun pada waktu > > > >> Hijrah, > > > >> sehingga Aisyah berumur (27 atau 28) - 10 = 17 atau 18 tahun pada > > waktu > > > >> Hijrah. Itu berarti Aisyah mulai hidup berumah tangga dengan > Muhammad > > > >> pada waktu berumur 19 atau 20 tahun. > > > >> Sedangkan menurut Sahih Al-Bukhari, Aisyah sendiri mengatakan bahwa > > > >> dirinya > > > >> dinikahi oleh Muhammad ketika berumur 6 (enam) tahun.[6] Pandangan > ini > > > >> juga > > > >> berlaku di kalangan umat islam tertentu. > > > >> > > > >> ________________________________ > > > >> From: itemabu2 itema...@gmail.com> > > > >> To: proletar@yahoogroups.com > > > >> Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 9:31 PM > > > >> Subject: Re: [proletar] Saudi "marriage officiant": Muhammad married > > > >> Aisha > > > >> when she was six and had sex with her when she was nine > > > >> > > > >> Narrated Aisha: "The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six > > > >> (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith > > > >> bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair > > > >> grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing > > > >> in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went > to > > > >> her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the > > > >> hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless > > > >> then, and when my breathing became Alright, she took some water and > > > >> rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. > > > >> There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes > and > > > >> Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and > > > >> they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle > came > > > >> to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at > that > > > >> time I was a girl of nine years of age. > > > >> Sahih Bukhari 5:58:234 > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> On 2/3/13, Musik hari Ini musikhari...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > >>> Goyim tolol > > > >>> > > > >>> kagak ada di CNN atau msnbc.....referesi dari jahatwatch > > > >>> > > > >>> kebanyakan bohong nya sama kayak elu dkk > > > >>> > > > >>> isinya total fitnahan. > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> ________________________________ > > > >>> From: itemabu2 itema...@gmail.com> > > > >>> To: proletar proletar@yahoogroups.com> > > > >>> Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 5:01 PM > > > >>> Subject: [proletar] Saudi "marriage officiant": Muhammad married > > Aisha > > > >>> when > > > >>> she was six and had sex with her when she was nine > > > >>> > > > >>> Ulama Saudi ngeluarin fatwa spy bayi perempuan hrs make jilbab unt > > > >>> ngelindungi bayi tsb dr pemerkosaan oleh orang2 Islam. Ga aneh, krn > > > >>> nabi itu jg doyan anak ingusan dan nabi adalah contoh yg baik unt > > > >>> orang Islam, maka bayi perempuan itu emang hrs dilindungi dr nabi > dan > > > >>> orang2 Islam yg soleh pengikut nabi. > > > >>> > > > >>> "Dr. Ahmad Al-Mu'bi: He married her at the age of six, and he > > > >>> consummated the marriage, by having sex with her for the first > time, > > > >>> when she was nine. We consider the Prophet Muhammad to be our > model." > > > >>> > > > >>> Hehehe... suri tauladan orang Islam itu adalah nabi yg kawin dgn > anak > > > >>> 6 thn dan ngembat si anak di usia 9 thn. Islam itu emang agama yg > > > >>> benar, benar2 bejad. > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > > > > http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/06/saudi-marriage-officiant-muhammad-married-aisha-when-she-was-six-and-had-sex-with-her-when-she-was-n.html > > > >>> > > > >>> Saudi "marriage officiant": Muhammad married Aisha when she was six > > > >>> and had sex with her when she was nine > > > >>> > > > >>> Over the years I've gotten a great deal of abuse for telling the > > truth > > > >>> about Islam and jihad here, but probably more for pointing out that > > > >>> Islamic tradition says that Muhammad married Aisha when she was six > > > >>> and consummated the marriage when she was nine, and that he is > > > >>> exemplary in this for Islamic law, than for anything else. See, to > > > >>> take just one of many examples, here. Of course, the righteous > > > >>> indignation over my alleged misrepresentation of this issue is > simply > > > >>> another manifestation of the general deceptive smokescreen that > > > >>> Islamic supremacists deploy in the West. > > > >>> > > > >>> But this MEMRI clip proves the only point I have ever wanted to > make > > > >>> about this issue: that Muhammad's example in this has been taken > and > > > >>> is still taken as worthy of imitation. > > > >>> > > > >>> "Dr. Ahmad Al-Mub'i, a Saudi Marriage Officiant: It Is Allowed to > > > >>> Marry a Girl at the Age of One, If Sex Is Postponed. The Prophet > > > >>> Muhammad, Whose Model We Follow, Married 'Aisha When She Was Six > and > > > >>> Had Sex with Her When She Was Nine," from MEMRITV, June 19 (thanks > to > > > >>> all who sent this in): > > > >>> > > > >>> Following are excerpts from an interview with Dr. Ahmad > Al-Mu'bi, > > > >>> a Saudi marriage officiant, which aired on LBC TV on June 19, 2008: > > > >>> > > > >>> Dr. Ahmad Al-Mu'bi: Marriage is actually two things: First we > are > > > >>> talking about the marriage contract itself. This is one thing, > while > > > >>> consummating the marriage having sex with the wife for the first > > > >>> time is another thing. There is no minimal age for entering > > > >>> marriage. You can have a marriage contract even with a one-year-old > > > >>> girl, not to mention a girl of nine, seven, or eight. This is > merely > > a > > > >>> contract [indicating] consent. The guardian in such a case must be > > the > > > >>> father, because the father's opinion is obligatory. Thus, the girl > > > >>> becomes a wife... But is the girl ready for sex or not? What is the > > > >>> appropriate age for having sex for the first time? This varies > > > >>> according to environment and traditions. In Yemen, girls are > married > > > >>> off at nine, ten, eleven, eight, or thirteen, while in other > > > >>> countries, they are married off at 16. Some countries have > legislated > > > >>> laws forbidding having sex before the girl is eighteen. > > > >>> > > > >>> [...] > > > >>> > > > >>> The Prophet Muhammad is the model we follow. He took 'Aisha to > be > > > >>> his wife when she was six, but he had sex with her only when she > was > > > >>> nine. > > > >>> > > > >>> Interviewer: When she was six... > > > >>> > > > >>> Dr. Ahmad Al-Mu'bi: He married her at the age of six, and he > > > >>> consummated the marriage, by having sex with her for the first > time, > > > >>> when she was nine. We consider the Prophet Muhammad to be our > model. > > > >>> > > > >>> Interviewer: My question to you is whether the marriage of a > > > >>> 12-year-old boy with an 11-year-old girl is a logical marriage, > which > > > >>> is permitted by Islamic law. > > > >>> > > > >>> Dr. Ahmad Al-Mu'bi: If the guardian is the father... There are > two > > > >>> different types of guardianship. If the guardian is the father, and > > he > > > >>> marries his daughter off to a man of appropriate standing, the > > > >>> marriage is obviously valid. > > > >>> > > > >>> [...] > > > >>> > > > >>> People find themselves in all kinds of circumstances. Take, for > > > >>> example, a man who has two, three, or four daughters. He does not > > have > > > >>> any wives, but he needs to go on a trip. Isn't it better to marry > his > > > >>> daughter to a man, who will protect and sustain her, and when she > > > >>> reaches the proper age, he will have sex with her? 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