Dan ketika gebukin bapaknya item idiot abu yang bertampang Debil bin idiot 
maaka digebukinlah ampe babak belur !
Tapi hal ini jangan pula dijadikan FITNAH pada bapaknya johny apalagi 
dialamatkan pada orang Islam secara keseluruhan.
Babak belur sih babak belur tak bisa nuduh seenaknya donk.

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Nub" <nubtheologian@...> wrote:
>
> tentara diindo memang suka gebukin orang.
> dulu gua smp bawa motor yg udah dimodif nyalib motor tentara.
> ehh gua dikejar trus dicegat ditengah jalan raya, disuruh minggir. 
> dia bilang gua sengaja mainin knalpot gua yg berisik depan motor dia, trus 
> gua dihajar abis ama dia. 
> bayangin, tentara lawan anak smp? bener2 kagak ada malunya. 
> 
> temen gua bapaknya tentara, pangkatnya udah jen2 an. 
> waktu smp main sepeda ama gua, dideket (luar) komplex rumahnya ada taman. ada 
> 3 tentara disitu lagi ga pake pakaian dinas ga suka ama temen gua main 
> sepeda. masih smp, gua dibentak tentara ya takut. tapi karna temen gua 
> bapaknya tentara juga, dia ga takut. si tentara kesel, temen gua dihajar 
> abis2an ampe mata kirinya ga bisa kebuka (dihajar abis, soalnya temen gua ini 
> ngelawan mukul juga, gila juga tuh anak masih smp berani bgt). 
> kita pulang kerumah dia buru2. bapaknya tahu kejadiannya, dia nyuruh 
> ajudannya manggil tuh 3 tentara. gantian tuh 3 tentara dihajar abis2an 
> dimarkas. 
> jadi kalo tentara suka main hajar itu memang bukan rahasia umum. 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Habe Proletar <proletar4@> wrote:
> >
> > ini opini gue murni
> > kalau ada orang sipil yang digebukin tentara
> > gue cenderung menyalahkan tentara, sebab tentara di indonesia  kebanyakan 
> > memang
> > banyak tingkah dan sering  petentengan
> > 
> > kalau ada orang cina ribut dengan pribumi
> > gue cenderung membela cina, sebab kebanyakan pribumi ngiri sama kesuksesan 
> > cina
> > 
> > tapi opini gue ngga berlaku sama semua tentara
> > gue kenal beberapa  keluarga tentara yang baik hati dan ngga petentengan
> > jadi gue ngga bisa mencap bapaknya si joniindon sok jago tukang gebukin 
> > orang sipil
> > seperti tentara yang ngegebukin bapak elu
> > 
> > atau cina, mentang mentang menjadi minoritas ngga selamanya tingkahnya 
> > lurus dan mesti dibela,
> > banyak juga cina yang arogan, rasis dan merasa lebih bernilai dari pribumi, 
> > nah berhadapan dengan
> > cina yang begini,gue lebih pro ke pribumi
> > 
> > sampai disini puas ngga lu atas jawaban gue tem?
> > 
> > udah, meweknya ngga usah diterusin ...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ________________________________
> >  From: itemabu2 <itemabu2@>
> > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 3:38 PM
> > Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Cara berak dan kencing yg Islami
> >  
> > Hehehe ... si habe ini emang ga tau malu, ocehannya itu udah jelas
> > nuduh2 ke gua, nyari2 kesalahan gua.
> > 
> > Knp si kunyuk buduk satu ini ga kaing2 ke si johny_indon atau
> > ayub_yahya yg terang2 bilang bhw kalo tentara melakukan penganiayaan,
> > itu pasti ada sebabnya yg berarti bukan tentaranya yg salah?
> > 
> > Kalo soal dobel standard dan ga tau malu, si kunyuk buduk hasan basri
> > ini emang nomor satu di milis ini.
> > 
> > Kalo soal mlintir2 omongan orang, debat kusir dan generalisasi,
> > johny_indon itu yg nomor satu, hehehe...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On 3/26/13, Habe Proletar <proletar4@> wrote:
> > > gue nanya, bukan bikin statement.. lu julung julung ninja
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >  From: itemabu2 <itemabu2@>
> > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 12:35 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Cara berak dan kencing yg Islami
> > >
> > > Eh dungu, coba lu nyalak ke si johny_indon dan sesama kunyuk lu yg
> > > kaing2 bhw tentara itu ngambil tindakan pasti krn ada alasannya yg
> > > berarti mereka ngebela tentara.
> > >
> > > Gua udah bilang tentara itu bajingan, sama spt orang Islam. Lu ini
> > > emang kerjanya ngefitnah yg ga kenal malu dan dobel standard. Kapan
> > > gua bilang yg ngebantai di Tg Priuk itu bukan tentara?
> > >
> > > Dasar bangsat keparat lu ini.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 3/26/13, Habe Proletar <proletar4@> wrote:
> > >> tentara di indonesia, mau kristen apa ngga, galaknya sama aja
> > >> lu bilang tentara itu bajingan dan mirip orang islam
> > >> sekarang gue tanya, waktu peristiwa tanjung priuk
> > >> yang ngebunuh orang orang islam di sana itu tentara apa bukan?
> > >>
> > >> lu antitentara lantaran bapaklu pernah dibogem mereka
> > >> tapi lu pro tentara, asal yang dibantai itu orang orang islam militan
> > >> seperti
> > >> yang di tanjung priuk bukan?
> > >>
> > >> ya iyalah yaw
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ________________________________
> > >>  From: itemabu2 <itemabu2@>
> > >> To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > >> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 12:58 AM
> > >> Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Cara berak dan kencing yg Islami
> > >>
> > >> Hehehe... lu yg ngefitnah, krn gua ga pernah bilang tentara yg
> > >> ngegebukin bapak gua itu adalah orang Islam sama sekali.
> > >>
> > >> Yg gua bilang adalah tentara itu bajingan semuanya, krn yg satu
> > >> nganiaya orang, yg lain nutup2in kebiadaban si penganiaya, persis spt
> > >> orang Islam.
> > >>
> > >> Kelakuan tentara itu ga banyak bedanya dgn kelakuan orang Islam yg jg
> > >> jadi penganiaya orang yg ga suka dgn Islam, kesenggol dikit aja udah
> > >> mau ngebantai, nganiaya dll.
> > >>
> > >> Persis jg dgn si Teddy yg emang anjing buduk piaraan orang Islam shg
> > >> kelakuannya jg sama dgn kelakuan majikannya.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 3/25/13, dimaswur <dimaswur@> wrote:
> > >>> Aku sangat simpati pada bapak elo yang digebukin orang. Makanya pantes
> > >>> kau
> > >>> mitnah orang Islam, karena nganggap yang gebukin bapak elo adaalah orang
> > >>> Islam.
> > >>> Padahal belum tentu. Bisa saja yang NGAKU Islam; sambil gebukin sambil
> > >>> mitnah orang.
> > >>>
> > >>> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, itemabu2 <itemabu2@> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Dasar dungu, ajaran Islam yg bejad mau ditutup2i dgn cara ngefitnah
> > >>>> orang
> > >>>> lain.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Ajaran Islam yg bejad dan kelakuan orang Islam yg bejad itu ga ada
> > >>>> hubungannya dgn kelakuan tentara yg bejad, krn tentara itu justru
> > >>>> umumnya sekuler, terutama d jaman dulu. Baru belakangan aja bau busuk
> > >>>> Islam nempel di tentara.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 3/24/13, dimaswur <dimaswur@> wrote:
> > >>>> > Pantesan si item idiot abu punya dendam kesumat teramat beraat
> > >>>> > terhadap
> > >>>> > Islam dan oraang Islam. Bapaknya ternyata dulu mungkin sering
> > >>>> > digebukin
> > >>>> > !
> > >>>> > Dan yang ngegebukin "diperkirakan" orang Islam ! Yah gampang kok
> > >>>> > mitnah
> > >>>> > Islam !
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > Jadi manusia yang tak bertanggung JAWAB tersebut punya duaa tiga
> > >>>> > keuntungan
> > >>>> > : 1. Bisa ngegebukin bapanya si item idiot abu; 2. Fitmah Islam 3.
> > >>>> > Dia
> > >>>> > nya
> > >>>> > sendiri NGAKAK melihat kebodohan dan keidiotan si item idiot abu !
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > Yah mau bilang apa ? aanaknya kini jadi pembela bapak yang digebukin;
> > >>>> > sambil
> > >>>> > tak tahu jelas kemanaa harus balasnya !?
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, itemabu2 <itemabu2@> wrote:
> > >>>> >>
> > >>>> >> Bisa jadi bapak si johny_indon ini termasuk yg ngegebukin bapak gua,
> > >>>> >> atau jg tukang ngegebukin orang lain, kalo anaknya sendiri aja
> > >>>> >> digebukin, apalagi orang lain.
> > >>>> >>
> > >>>> >> Kita bisa liat kelakuan para bajingan tentara/polisi. Tentara dan
> > >>>> >> polisi saling bunuh2an, lalu yg lain ngelindungi.
> > >>>> >>
> > >>>> >> Persis kayak kelakuan orang Islam, ada orang Islam yg jadi tukang
> > >>>> >> bunuh, lalu orang Islam yg lain nutup2in kebiadabannya.
> > >>>> >>
> > >>>> >>
> > >>>> >>
> > >>>> >> On 3/24/13, johny_indon <johny_indon@> wrote:
> > >>>> >> >
> > >>>> >> >
> > >>>> >> >
> > >>>> >> > kalo ngga punya salah ngga mungkin dianiaya.
> > >>>> >> > coba inget2 lagi blek, waktu itu bapak lu ngejambret dimana?
> > >>>> >> >
> > >>>> >> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, itemabu2 <itemabu2@> wrote:
> > >>>> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >> Lu toh ga keberatan bapak gua dianiaya oleh bajingan2 tentara
> > >>>> >> >> sesama
> > >>>> >> >> bapak si johny_indon tsb, nunjukin kebiadaban lu.
> > >>>> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >> On 3/23/13, rezameutia <rezameutia@> wrote:
> > >>>> >> >> >
> > >>>> >> >> > Hehehe...
> > >>>> >> >> > Jadi emang mata lu terlalu sipit baca tulisan gw, atau lu
> > >>>> >> >> > bacanya
> > >>>> >> >> > pake
> > >>>> >> >> > biji
> > >>>> >> >> > peler, atau bahkan lu terlalu dogol untuk mengerti tulisan gw?
> > >>>> >> >> >
> > >>>> >> >> > Coba dipake otak lo dong tem, mosok gw mau anjing sipit gw
> > >>>> >> >> > dibantai?
> > >>>> >> >> >
> > >>>> >> >> >
> > >>>> >> >> >
> > >>>> >> >> >
> > >>>> >> >> >
> > >>>> >> >> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, itemabu2 <itemabu2@> wrote:
> > >>>> >> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >> >> Hehehe... jadi lu pengen gua dibantai kopasus atau tentara.
> > >>>> >> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >> >> Makin jelas tampang orang Islam, setelah Abbas Amin dan Dimas
> > >>>> >> >> >> walahualan, sekarang reameutia jg pengen gua dibantai.
> > >>>> >> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >> >> On 3/23/13, rezameutia <rezameutia@> wrote:
> > >>>> >> >> >> > tem, in i kristen2 dogol modar ditembak kopasus.
> > >>>> >> >> >> >
> > >>>> >> >> >> > untung bapak lo urusannya cuman sama tentara, jadi cuman
> > >>>> >> >> >> > digamparin
> > >>>> >> >> >> > setengah
> > >>>> >> >> >> > modar aja.
> > >>>> >> >> >> >
> > >>>> >> >> >> > coba kalo urusannya sama kopasus, bapak lo bukan cuman
> > >>>> >> >> >> > digamparin
> > >>>> >> >> >> > aja
> > >>>> >> >> >> > tapi
> > >>>> >> >> >> > di jedor juga tuh kayak kristen dogol ini..
> > >>>> >> >> >> >
> > >>>> >> >> >> >
> > >>>> >> >> >> > ====
> > >>>> >> >> >> >
> > >>>> >> >> >> >
> > >>>> >> >> >> >
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> > >>>> >> >> >> > menjadi
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> > >>>> >> >> >> > saat
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> > >>>> >> >> >> >
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> > >>>> >> >> >> > ruang
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> > >>>> >> >> >> > orang
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> > >>>> >> >> >> > juga
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> > >>>> >> >> >> > ada
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> > >>>> >> >> >> > berada
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> > >>>> >> >> >> > penjara.
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> > >>>> >> >> >> >
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> > >>>> >> >> >> >
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> > >>>> >> >> >> > anggota
> > >>>> >> >> >> > Kopassus
> > >>>> >> >> >> > pada
> > >>>> >> >> >> > Selasa 19 Maret 2013 di Hugo's cafe, Jalan Adisutjipto, km
> > >>>> >> >> >> > 8,5,
> > >>>> >> >> >> > Maguwoharjo,
> > >>>> >> >> >> > Sleman. Tentara berpangkat Sersan Satu itu tewas dengan luka
> > >>>> >> >> >> > tusuk.
> > >>>> >> >> >> >
> > >>>> >> >> >> >
> > >>>> >> >> >> >
> > >>>> >> >> >> >
> > >>>> >> >> >> >
> > >>>> >> >> >> >
> > >>>> >> >> >> >
> > >>>> >> >> >> >
> > >>>> >> >> >> >
> > >>>> >> >> >> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, itemabu2 <itemabu2@> wrote:
> > >>>> >> >> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> Dasar tolol, lu sbg orang Islam itu disuruh cebok pake
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> tangan
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> kiri,
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> ga
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> boleh pake tangan kanan.
> > >>>> >> >> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> Kalo lu hrs gua ajarin cara cebok, gua kasih tau deh. Lu
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> ambil
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> batu
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> 3
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> biji, lalu lu pegang batu pake tangan kiri lu, lalu lu pake
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> buat
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> bersihin pantat lu. Ga perlu pake tangan kanan, cukup pake
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> tangan
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> kiri.
> > >>>> >> >> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> Praktekin tuh ajaran nabi lu yg ngajarin cara cebok Islami.
> > >>>> >> >> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> On 3/23/13, johny_indon <johny_indon@> wrote:
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> > emang kalo tangan kanannya yg buntung trus ceboknya
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> > gimana
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> > juga
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> > blek?
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> > coba sebagai pemerhati cebok gua pengen tau jawaban elu
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> > dan
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> > si
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> > kup...
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> > eh
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> > rico cebok.
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> > (orang sibuk ngobrolin investasi lu pade masih puyeng dgn
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> > soal
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> > percebokan.
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> > lol)
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, itemabu2 <itemabu2@>
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> > wrote:
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Gimana dgn orang yg udah dipotong tangan kirinya krn
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> nyolong?
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Mereka
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> kan ga boleh cebok pake tangan kanan.
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Gua rasa, si arra_s itu pasti suka lupa ngucapin
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> bismilah,
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> entah
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> sengaja apa kagak, shg setan dan jin bisa ngeliat
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> auratnya.
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Tp ga tau, apa setan dan jin itu ada di kamar mandi di
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> apartemen
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> di
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Korea. Kayaknya sih setan dan jin itu pada ngumpul di
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> tanah
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Arab
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> dan
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> jg nempel dgn orang Islam ke mana2 nurut Quran, ga dgn
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> kafir.
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> On 3/22/13, ttbnice <rparapat@> wrote:
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > Kalo gak cebok artinya gak ISlami dong.... hehehehe
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, itemabu2 <itemabu2@>
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > wrote:
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Inilah cara2 berak dan kencing yg Islami, menunjukkan
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> betapa
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> dungunya
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> orang Islam dan ajaran Islam tsb.
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Agama tolol menghasilkan orang tolol, agama bejad
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> menghasilkan
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> orang
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> bejad. Dan Islam menghasilkan orang tolol dan bejad
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> krn
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Islam
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> itu
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> emang agama tolol dan bejad.
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://islamqa.info/en/ref/12657/lavatory
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> This is a summary of the etiquette of relieving
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> oneself,
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> which
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> it
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> is
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> mustahabb for the Muslim to observe when relieving
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> himself.
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> 1 â€" It is Sunnah to say "Bismillaah (in the name of
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Allaah)"
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> when
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> entering the washroom, because it was narrated from
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> `Ali
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> ibn
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Abi
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Taalib (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Messenger
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> of
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Allaah
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said:
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> "The
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> eyes
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> of
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> the
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> jinn are blocked from seeing the `awraat of the sons
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> of
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Adam
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> when
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> one
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> of them says, on entering the washroom,
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> `Bismillaah.'"
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> (Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, al-Jumu'ah, 551. Classed as
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> saheeh
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> by
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> al-Albaani in Saheeh Sunan al-Tirmidhi, no. 496).
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> It was also proven in the hadeeth of Anas that the
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Prophet
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> (peace
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> and
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "Allaahumma
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> inni
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> a'oodhu
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> bika
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> min al-khubthi wa'l-khabaa'ith (O Allaah, I seek
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> refuge
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> in
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> You
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> from
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> all offensive and wicked things (evil deeds and evil
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> spirits)."
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, al-Wudoo', 139)
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2 â€" He should enter with his left foot first, and
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> exit
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> with
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> his
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> right
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> foot first.
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> 3 â€" If he wants to relieve himself in a place that 
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> is
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> not
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> designated
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> for that purpose, it is recommended for him to go far
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> away
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> (from
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> people).
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> 4 â€" He should not face the qiblah or turn his back
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> towards
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> it
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> when
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> relieving himself, because of the hadeeth narrated
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> from
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> the
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Prophet
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) in which
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> he
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> said:
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> "When
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> any one of you needs to defecate, let him not face
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> the
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> qiblah
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> or
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> turn
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> his back toward it; face east or west" [because
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Makkah
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> is
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> south
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> of
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Madeenah â€" Translator]." (Narrated by al-Bukhaari,
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> al-Wudoo',
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> 141).
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> 5 â€" When urinating, a person must be careful not to
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> let
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> drops
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> of
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> urine
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> land on his clothes or body, because it was narrated
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> in
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> the
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> hadeeth
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> of
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Ibn `Abbaas that "the Prophet (peace and blessings of
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Allaah
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> be
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> upon
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> him) passed by one of the gardens of Madeenah or
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Makkah,
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> and
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> he
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> heard
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> the voices of two men who were being punished in
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> their
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> graves.
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> The
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> said:
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> `They
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> are
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> being punished but they are not being punished for a
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> major
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> sin.'
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Then
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> he said, `No, one of them used not to take
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> precautions
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> to
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> protect
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> himself from his urine, and the other used to go
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> about
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> spreading
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> slander.' Then he called for a palm-branch, which he
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> broke
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> in
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> two
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> and
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> placed each piece on a grave, It was said to him, `O
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Messenger
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> of
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Allaah, why did you do that?' He said, `May their
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> torment
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> be
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> reduced
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> so long as these do not dry out' or `until these dry
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> out.'"
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> (Narrated
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> by al-Bukhaari, al-Wudoo', 209).
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> 6 â€" He should not hold his penis with his right 
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> hand
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> whilst
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> urinating,
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> upon
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> him)
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> said:
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> "When any one of you goes to the lavatory, he should
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> neither
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> touch
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> his
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> penis nor clean his private parts with his right
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> hand."
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> (Narrated
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> by
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> al-Bukhaari, al-Wudoo', 149)
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> 7 â€" It is not permissible to relieve oneself in the
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> street
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> or
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> in
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> the
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> shade, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Allaah
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> be
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> upon
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> him)
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> said: "Beware of two things which provoke cursing."
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> They
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> said,
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> "What
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> are the two things which provoke cursing, O Messenger
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> of
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Allaah?"
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> He
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> said, "Relieving oneself on the street or in the
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> shade."
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> (Narrated
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> by
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Muslim, al-Tahaarah, 397)
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> 8 â€" It is makrooh to speak whilst relieving 
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> oneself.
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> 9 â€" It is mustahabb when coming out of the washroom
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> to
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> say
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Ghufraanak
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> (I ask You (Allaah) for Your forgiveness)," because
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> it
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> was
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> narrated
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> that `Aa'ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) said:
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> "When
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> the
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> came
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> out
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> of
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> the
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> washroom, he would say, `Ghufraanak.'"
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> (Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, al-Tahaarah, 7; classed as
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> saheeh
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> by
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> al-Albaani in Saheeh Sunan al-Tirmidhi, no. 7
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >
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> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >
> > >>>> >> >> >> >> >
> > >>>> >> >> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >> >> >
> > >>>> >> >> >> >
> > >>>> >> >> >>
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> > >>>> >> >> >
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> > >>>> >
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