lha analisa gua bukan tanpa alasan.
si bleki bilang babenya digebukin tentara.
tiba2 elu cerita digebukin tentara juga.
kejadiannya sama2 soal lalu lintas.
cerita elu dan bleki itu jelas ada benang merahnya.

kalo si bleki bilang babenya pake mobil, dan elu bilang pake motor 
waktu smp, itu kan cuma improvisasi aja, atau lebih tepatnya kembang kibulan.
jadi ada kemungkinan yg diceritain si bleki itu ya elu.
apa lagi kalian sama2 kresten fundamentalis.

klop dah.

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Nub" <nubtheologian@...> wrote:
>
> nyambung buat orang bego kaya lu aja jon.
> gua digebukin pas smp jon, bukan bapa2.
> sekarang mah jangankan gebukin gua, polisi nyetop mobil gua aja belum tentu 
> berani jon hehe
> 
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "johny_indon" <johny_indon@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > item abu sama si nub punya kemiripan, sama2 kresten militan. 
> > sekarang coba kita analisa. 
> > dari cerita si bleki dan nub, gua koq jadi curiga, jangan2 si nub ini 
> > bapaknya si bleki? 
> > soalnya ceritanya nyambung, ada benang merahnya. 
> > 
> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "pinpinyuliansyah" <pinpinyuliansyah@> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > kok bisa ya elo smp naek motor kayak gituan . . . 
> > > pantesan udah gede nya tengil kayak gini.
> > > ck. . . ck. . . ck. . . 
> > > 
> > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dah gua bilang, gua tuh cuma sekedar nyalib. Bukan petantang petenteng. 
> > > > Cuma karna motor gua dah di modif, bunyi knalpotnya gahar (orang 
> > > > komplex aja ampe komplen ke bokap). Tuh tentara emang jeles aja kali 
> > > > liat motor bagus dikit hehe 
> > > > Itu si tentara emang rada sakit jiwa sih kayanya. Gua inget ada 3 orang 
> > > > tukang ojek yg mau belain gua, tiga2nya malah dikasih kayu buat 
> > > > berantem ama dia LOL tuh tukang ojek ngibrit semua. Untung ada mobil 
> > > > polisi patrol, guanya disuruh pergi deh, si tentara ga tau diapain. 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > intinya sih hidup itu jangan belagu, biasa2 wae.
> > > > > masih mending lu cuman petantang pententeng di depan tentara.
> > > > > kalo motor yg lu salip itu ternyata punyanya si hercules atau john 
> > > > > kei, lu bukan cuman babak belur, tapi serpihan badan lu udah 
> > > > > beredar di sepanjang jalan tol.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > tentara diindo memang suka gebukin orang.
> > > > > > dulu gua smp bawa motor yg udah dimodif nyalib motor tentara.
> > > > > > ehh gua dikejar trus dicegat ditengah jalan raya, disuruh minggir. 
> > > > > > dia bilang gua sengaja mainin knalpot gua yg berisik depan motor 
> > > > > > dia, trus gua dihajar abis ama dia. 
> > > > > > bayangin, tentara lawan anak smp? bener2 kagak ada malunya. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > temen gua bapaknya tentara, pangkatnya udah jen2 an. 
> > > > > > waktu smp main sepeda ama gua, dideket (luar) komplex rumahnya ada 
> > > > > > taman. ada 3 tentara disitu lagi ga pake pakaian dinas ga suka ama 
> > > > > > temen gua main sepeda. masih smp, gua dibentak tentara ya takut. 
> > > > > > tapi karna temen gua bapaknya tentara juga, dia ga takut. si 
> > > > > > tentara kesel, temen gua dihajar abis2an ampe mata kirinya ga bisa 
> > > > > > kebuka (dihajar abis, soalnya temen gua ini ngelawan mukul juga, 
> > > > > > gila juga tuh anak masih smp berani bgt). 
> > > > > > kita pulang kerumah dia buru2. bapaknya tahu kejadiannya, dia 
> > > > > > nyuruh ajudannya manggil tuh 3 tentara. gantian tuh 3 tentara 
> > > > > > dihajar abis2an dimarkas. 
> > > > > > jadi kalo tentara suka main hajar itu memang bukan rahasia umum. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > > >> To: proletar@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>> Aku sangat simpati pada bapak elo yang digebukin orang. 
> > > > > > > >>> Makanya pantes
> > > > > > > >>> kau
> > > > > > > >>> mitnah orang Islam, karena nganggap yang gebukin bapak elo 
> > > > > > > >>> adaalah orang
> > > > > > > >>> Islam.
> > > > > > > >>> Padahal belum tentu. Bisa saja yang NGAKU Islam; sambil 
> > > > > > > >>> gebukin sambil
> > > > > > > >>> mitnah orang.
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>> > Pantesan si item idiot abu punya dendam kesumat teramat 
> > > > > > > >>>> > beraat
> > > > > > > >>>> > terhadap
> > > > > > > >>>> > Islam dan oraang Islam. Bapaknya ternyata dulu mungkin 
> > > > > > > >>>> > sering
> > > > > > > >>>> > digebukin
> > > > > > > >>>> > !
> > > > > > > >>>> > Dan yang ngegebukin "diperkirakan" orang Islam ! Yah 
> > > > > > > >>>> > gampang kok
> > > > > > > >>>> > mitnah
> > > > > > > >>>> > Islam !
> > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > >>>> > Jadi manusia yang tak bertanggung JAWAB tersebut punya 
> > > > > > > >>>> > duaa tiga
> > > > > > > >>>> > keuntungan
> > > > > > > >>>> > : 1. Bisa ngegebukin bapanya si item idiot abu; 2. Fitmah 
> > > > > > > >>>> > Islam 3.
> > > > > > > >>>> > Dia
> > > > > > > >>>> > nya
> > > > > > > >>>> > sendiri NGAKAK melihat kebodohan dan keidiotan si item 
> > > > > > > >>>> > idiot abu !
> > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > >>>> > Yah mau bilang apa ? aanaknya kini jadi pembela bapak yang 
> > > > > > > >>>> > digebukin;
> > > > > > > >>>> > sambil
> > > > > > > >>>> > tak tahu jelas kemanaa harus balasnya !?
> > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > > > >>>> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >
> > > > > > > >>>> >> > kalo ngga punya salah ngga mungkin dianiaya.
> > > > > > > >>>> >> > coba inget2 lagi blek, waktu itu bapak lu ngejambret 
> > > > > > > >>>> >> > dimana?
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >
> > > > > > > >>>> >> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > Hehehe...
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > Jadi emang mata lu terlalu sipit baca tulisan gw, 
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > atau lu
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > bacanya
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > pake
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > biji
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > peler, atau bahkan lu terlalu dogol untuk mengerti 
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > tulisan gw?
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > Coba dipake otak lo dong tem, mosok gw mau anjing 
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > sipit gw
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > dibantai?
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > tem, in i kristen2 dogol modar ditembak kopasus.
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > untung bapak lo urusannya cuman sama tentara, 
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > jadi cuman
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > digamparin
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > setengah
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > modar aja.
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > coba kalo urusannya sama kopasus, bapak lo bukan 
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > cuman
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > digamparin
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > aja
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > tapi
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > di jedor juga tuh kayak kristen dogol ini..
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > ====
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Anggota Kopassus Diduga Serbu Penjara di Sleman
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Besar Kecil Normal
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > TEMPO.CO, Sleman - Lembaga Pemasyarakatan 
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Cebongan Sleman
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > diserang
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > belasan
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > orang tak dikenal. Mereka mengincar empat tahanan 
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > yang
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > menjadi
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > tersangka
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > pengeroyok seorang anggota Kopassus hingga terwas.
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Kepala Kepolisian Daerah (Kapolda) Daerah Istimewa
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Yogyakarta
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Brigadir
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Jenderal Sabar Rahardjo mengatakan empat 
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > tersangka yang
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > diincar
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > tewas
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > ditembak pada Sabtu, 23 Maret 2013 sekitar pukul 
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > 01.00 WIB.
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Mereka
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > merupakan
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > tersangka pelaku penganiayaan hingga menewaskan 
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > anggota TNI
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Angkatan
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Darat
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Kesatuan Kopassus Kandang Menjangan, Kartosuro, 
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Solo, Sersan
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Satu
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Santoso.
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > "Ya, mereka pelakunya (penganiayaan Santoso)," 
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > kata Sabar
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Rahardjo,
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > saat
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > berada di Lembaga Pemasyarakatan Cebngan Sleman, 
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Sabtu pagi.
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Dia menjelaskan, kronologi kejadian itu, ada 
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > gerombolan
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > dengan
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > penutup
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > wajah
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > melompat pagar penjara setinggi sekitar 1,5 
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > meter. Mereka
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > lalu
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > memaksa
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > penjaga membuka pintu dengan cara mengancam akan 
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > meledakkan
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > granat.
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Setelah masuk penjara, mereka memaksa penjaga 
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > pembawa kunci
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > ruang
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > tahanan
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > untuk mencari target empat orang tersangka itu. 
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Setelah
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > mendapatkaan
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > target,
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > germbolaan itu menembak empat orang itu. 
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Akibatnya empat
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > orang
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > itu
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > tewas.
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Dugaan sementara, ada sekitar 17 orang yang 
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > masuk, namun
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > juga
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > masih
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > ada
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > yang
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > berjaga di luar penjara kelas 2B itu.
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Sementara, Closed Circuit Television (CCTV) yang 
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > dipaasang
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > di
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > penjaara
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > itu
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > diambil oleh gerombolan itu. Hingga pagi hari, 
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > petugas dari
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Laboratorium
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Forensik (Labfor) Polda Daerah Istimewa 
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Yogyakarta masih
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > berada
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > di
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > penjara.
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Di luar lapas, puluhan polisi dan tentara berjaga.
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Polisi masih melakukan penyelidikan untuk mencari 
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > para
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > pelaku
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > yang
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > menewaskan tersangka itu. Para tersangka adalah 
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Hendrik
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Angel
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Sahetapi
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > alias
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Deki, Adrianus Candra Galaga, Yohanes Juan 
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Mambait, Gameliel
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Yermiayant
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Rohi
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Riwu.
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Mereka adalah tersangka kejadian penganiayaan 
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Santoso,
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > anggota
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Kopassus
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > pada
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Selasa 19 Maret 2013 di Hugo's cafe, Jalan 
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Adisutjipto, km
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > 8,5,
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Maguwoharjo,
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > Sleman. Tentara berpangkat Sersan Satu itu tewas 
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > dengan luka
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > tusuk.
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> > emang kalo tangan kanannya yg buntung trus 
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> > ceboknya
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> > gimana
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> > juga
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> > blek?
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> > coba sebagai pemerhati cebok gua pengen tau 
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> > jawaban elu
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> > dan
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> > si
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> > kup...
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> > eh
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> > rico cebok.
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> > (orang sibuk ngobrolin investasi lu pade masih 
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> > puyeng dgn
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> > soal
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> > percebokan.
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> > lol)
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > Kalo gak cebok artinya gak ISlami dong.... 
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > hehehehe
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> > wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Inilah cara2 berak dan kencing yg Islami, 
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> menunjukkan
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> betapa
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> dungunya
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> orang Islam dan ajaran Islam tsb.
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Agama tolol menghasilkan orang tolol, 
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> agama bejad
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> menghasilkan
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> orang
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> bejad. Dan Islam menghasilkan orang tolol 
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> dan bejad
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> krn
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Islam
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> itu
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> emang agama tolol dan bejad.
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://islamqa.info/en/ref/12657/lavatory
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> This is a summary of the etiquette of 
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> relieving
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> oneself,
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> which
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> it
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> is
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> mustahabb for the Muslim to observe when 
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> relieving
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> himself.
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> 1 �" It is Sunnah to say "Bismillaah (in 
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> the name of
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Allaah)"
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> when
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> entering the washroom, because it was 
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> narrated from
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> `Ali
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> ibn
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Abi
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Taalib (may Allaah be pleased with him) 
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> that the
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Messenger
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> of
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Allaah
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon 
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> him) said:
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> "The
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> eyes
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> of
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> the
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> jinn are blocked from seeing the `awraat 
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> of the sons
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> of
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Adam
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> when
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> one
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> of them says, on entering the washroom,
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> `Bismillaah.'"
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> (Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, al-Jumu'ah, 551. 
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Classed as
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> saheeh
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> by
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> al-Albaani in Saheeh Sunan al-Tirmidhi, 
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> no. 496).
> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
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