Jadi, sekali lagi...
 
Karena psikopat berat tukang fitnah Hasan Basri tukang kibulin istri itu emang 
nggak begitu waras, maka dia tidak paham bahwa saya TIDAK menjawab 
pertanyaannya tapi mengomentari bagian tulisannnya yang ngawur...


 
--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Habe Proletar <proletar4@...> wrote:
>
> o gue ngerti maksudnya
> 
> elu berusaha mengkoreksi perkawinan yang gue bilang "ilmiah"
> maksud gue alamiah, bukan ilmiah, 
> 
> tapi toh secara ilmiah seorang anak yang lahir dari hasil perkawinan ( normal)
> tetap membutuhkan laki laki dan perempuan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
>  From: Bukan Pedanda <bukan.pedanda@...>
> To: proletar@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 5:57 AM
> Subject: [proletar] Re: SA: Homophobes (Hasan Basri yang memang nggak begitu 
> waras...
>  
> 
> 
>   
> 
> Karena psikopat berat tukang fitnah Hasan Basri tukang kibulin istri itu 
> emang nggak begitu waras, maka dia tidak paham bahwa saya TIDAK menjawab 
> pertanyaannya tapi mengomentari bagian tulisannnya yang ngawur...
> 
> 
> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Habe Proletar <proletar4@> wrote:
> >
> > orang yang waras harusnya tau
> > kalau gue nanya si anu, bukan elu
> > ya yang jawab mestinya si anu, bukan si panu seperti elu
> > 
> > elu tuh aneh, 
> > begitu giliran gue nanya elu
> > eh langsung deh jurus straw man fallacy dikeluarin
> > pertanyaan gue, elu pelintir sehingga elu ngga mesti menjawab pertanyaan 
> > itu,
> > yang elu lakukan mirip kokokan ayam idiot, itu ke itu aja sambil memforward
> > segala artikel soal homosexual
> > 
> > 
> > bloon...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ________________________________
> >  From: Bukan Pedanda <bukan.pedanda@>
> > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 2:28 AM
> > Subject: [proletar] Re: SA: Homophobes (Hasan Basri yang memang nggak 
> > begitu waras...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > 
> > Komentar psikopat berat Hasan Basri yang otaknya sudah betul-betul rusak 
> > dan jadi busuk, nista  lagi menjijikkan...
> > 
> > Dia sudah hadir di mailing list ini sejak semula dan belum juga dia tahu 
> > bahwa tiap peserta berhak untuk mengomentari tiap pôsting yang dikirim 
> > kesini.
> > 
> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Habe Proletar <proletar4@> wrote:
> > >
> > > pik, emang nama elu nub ya?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ________________________________
> > >  From: Bukan Pedanda <bukan.pedanda@>
> > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 11:05 PM
> > > Subject: [proletar] Re: SA: Homophobes (Hasan Basri yang memang nggak 
> > > begitu waras...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   
> > > 
> > > Habe tukang kibulin istri yang - juga - memang nggak begitu waras bilang, 
> > > tanpa argumen: "perkawinan tetap aja secara ilmiah dilakukan antara laki 
> > > laki dan perempuan"
> > > 
> > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Habe Proletar <proletar4@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > merejek " pernikahan sejenis " bukan berarti anti gay
> > > > soal life style dan kecenderungan sex mereka, itu sih urusan mereka 
> > > > sendiri
> > > > 
> > > > perkawinan tetap aja secara ilmiah dilakukan antara laki laki dan 
> > > > perempuan
> > > > gimana menurut elu nub?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > ________________________________
> > > >  From: Nub <nubtheologian@>
> > > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com 
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 4:14 PM
> > > > Subject: [proletar] Re: SA: Homophobes Might Be Hidden Homosexuals
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > ÃÆ'‚  
> > > > Kalo orang batak bilang:
> > > > Strong rejection may be interpreted as affirmation
> > > > 
> > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Bukan Pedanda <bukan.pedanda@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > Permanent Address: 
> > > > > http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=homophobes-might-be-hidden-homosexuals
> > > > >  
> > > > > Homophobes Might Be Hidden Homosexuals 
> > > > > A new analysis of implicit bias and explicit sexual 
> > > > > orientation statements may help to explain the underpinnings of 
> > > > > anti-gay bullying and hate crimes
> > > > > By Jeanna Bryner and LiveScience ÃÆ'‚ |  Tuesday, 
> > > > > April 10, 2012ÃÆ'‚ | 40 
> > > > >    Image: Wikimedia Commons/thaths 
> > > > > Advertisement
> > > > > Homophobes should consider a little self-reflection, suggests a new 
> > > > > study finding those individuals who are most hostile toward gays and 
> > > > > hold strong anti-gay views may themselves have same-sex desires, 
> > > > > albeit 
> > > > > undercover ones.
> > > > > The prejudice of homophobia may also stem from authoritarian parents, 
> > > > > particularly those with homophobic views as well, the researchers 
> > > > > added.
> > > > > "This study shows that if you are feeling that kind of visceral 
> > > > > reaction to an out-group, ask yourself, 'Why?'" co-author Richard 
> > > > > Ryan, a 
> > > > > professor of psychology at the University of Rochester, said in a 
> > > > > statement. "Those intense emotions should serve as a call to 
> > > > > self-reflection."
> > > > > The research, published in the April 2012 issue of the Journal of 
> > > > > Personality and Social Psychology, reveals the nuances of prejudices 
> > > > > like homophobia, which can ultimately have dire consequences. [The 10 
> > > > > Most Destructive Human Behaviors]
> > > > > "Sometimes people are threatened by gays and lesbians because they 
> > > > > are 
> > > > > fearing their own impulses, in a sense they 'doth protest too much,'" 
> > > > > Ryan told LiveScience. "In addition, it appears that sometimes those 
> > > > > who would oppress others have been oppressed themselves, and we can 
> > > > > have 
> > > > > some compassion for them too, they may be unaccepting of others 
> > > > > because 
> > > > > they cannot be accepting of themselves."
> > > > > Ryan cautioned, however, that this link is only one source of 
> > > > > anti-gay sentiments.
> > > > > Hidden homosexuality
> > > > > In four studies, the researchers looked at the discrepancies between 
> > > > > what people say about their sexual orientation and their implicit 
> > > > > sexual orientation based on a reaction-time test. The studies 
> > > > > involved college students from Germany and the United States.
> > > > > For the implicit measure, students had to categorize words and 
> > > > > pictures 
> > > > > flashed onto a computer screen into "gay" or "straight" groups. Words 
> > > > > included "gay," "straight," "homosexual" and "heterosexual," while 
> > > > > the 
> > > > > pictures showed straight and gay couples. Before each trial, 
> > > > > participants were primed with the word "me" or "others" flashed 
> > > > > momentarily onto a computer screen. The researchers said quicker 
> > > > > reaction time for "me" and "gay," and a slower association of "me" 
> > > > > with 
> > > > > "straight" would indicate said an implicit gay orientation. [Why Gay 
> > > > > Parents May Be the Best Parents]
> > > > > In another experiment, the researchers measured implicit sexual 
> > > > > orientation by having participants choose to browse same-sex or 
> > > > > opposite-sex photos on a computer screen.
> > > > > Questionnaires also teased out the parenting style the participants 
> > > > > were exposed to, with students asked how much they agreed or 
> > > > > disagreed with 
> > > > > statements such as: "I felt controlled and pressured in certain 
> > > > > ways;" 
> > > > > and "I felt free to be who I am." To gauge homophobia in a household, 
> > > > > students responded to items such as, "It would be upsetting for my 
> > > > > mom 
> > > > > to find out she was alone with a lesbian" or "My dad avoids gay men 
> > > > > whenever possible."
> > > > > Participants indicated their own level of homophobia, both overt and 
> > > > > implicit; in word-completion tasks, students wrote down the first 
> > > > > three 
> > > > > words that came to mind when prompted with some of the words' 
> > > > > letters. 
> > > > > Students were primed at some point with the word "gay" to see how 
> > > > > that 
> > > > > impacted the amount of aggressive words used.
> > > > > Controlling parents
> > > > > In all of the studies, participants who reported supportive and 
> > > > > accepting parents were more in touch with their implicit sexual 
> > > > > orientation, meaning it tended to jibe with their outward sexual 
> > > > > orientation. Students who indicated they came from authoritarian 
> > > > > homes 
> > > > > showed the biggest discrepancy between the two measures of sexual 
> > > > > orientation.
> > > > > "In a predominately heterosexual society, 'know thyself' can be a 
> > > > > challenge for many gay individuals," lead author Netta Weinstein, a 
> > > > > lecturer at the University of Essex in the United Kingdom,said in a 
> > > > > statement. "But in controlling and homophobic homes, embracing a 
> > > > > minority sexual orientation can be terrifying." [5 Ways to Foster 
> > > > > Self-Compassion in Your Child]
> > > > > Those participants who reported their heterosexuality despite having 
> > > > > hidden same-sex desires were also the most likely to show hostility 
> > > > > toward gay individuals, including self-reported anti-gay attitudes, 
> > > > > endorsement of anti-gay policies and discrimination such as 
> > > > > supporting 
> > > > > harsher punishments for homosexuals.
> > > > > The research may help to explain the underpinnings of anti-gay 
> > > > > bullying and hate crimes, the researchers note. People in denial 
> > > > > about their own sexual 
> > > > > orientation, perhaps a denial fostered by authoritarian and 
> > > > > homophobic 
> > > > > parents, may feel a threat from other gay and lesbian individuals. 
> > > > > Lashing out may ultimately be an indicator of the person's own 
> > > > > internal 
> > > > > conflict with sexual orientation.
> > > > > This inner conflict can be seen in some high-profile cases in which 
> > > > > anti-gay public figures are caught engaging in same-sex acts, the 
> > > > > researchers say. For instance, evangelical preacher and 
> > > > > anti-gay-marriage advocate Ted Haggard was caught in a gay sex 
> > > > > scandal 
> > > > > in 2006. And in 2010, prominent anti-gay activist and co-founder of 
> > > > > conservative Family Research Council George Rekers was reportedly 
> > > > > spotted in 2010 with a male escort rented from Rentboy.com. According 
> > > > > to news reports, the escort confirmed Rekers is gay.
> > > > > "We laugh at or make fun of such blatant hypocrisy, but in a real 
> > > > > way, 
> > > > > these people may often themselves be victims of repression and 
> > > > > experience exaggerated feelings of threat," Ryan said. "Homophobia is 
> > > > > not a laughing matter. It can sometimes have tragic consequences," as 
> > > > > was the case in the 1998 murder of Matthew Shepard, a gay man.
> > > > >       * 5 Myths About Gay People Debunked
> > > > >       * Understanding the 10 Most Destructive Human Behaviors
> > > > >       * 10 Scientific Tips For Raising Happy Kids
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