Ni orang idiot kwadrat cuma bs kaing2 kayak anjing kejepit buntut, ga bs ngasih komentar sama sekali atas apa yg dialami ulama di Maroko tsb. > Betul2 tipikal anti Islam
--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, itemabu2 <itemabu2@...> wrote: > > Ni orang tolol cuma bs kaing2 kayak anjing kejepit buntut, ga bs > ngasih komentar sama sekali atas apa yg dialami ulama di Maroko tsb. > > Betul2 tipikal Islam. > > > On 5/8/13, dimaswur <dimaswur@...> wrote: > > Hehehe... AntiIslam itu emang pada IDIOT dan suka pada agama yg benar, yang > > benar2 bejad dan biadab. > >> > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, itemabu2 <itemabu2@> wrote: > >> > >> Hehehe... Islam itu emang agama yg benar, benar2 bejad dan biadab. > >> > >> > >> http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/05/morocco-muslim-cleric-condemns-violence-in-islams-name-is-declared-an-apostate-and-threatened-with-d.html > >> > >> Morocco: Muslim cleric condemns violence in Islam's name, is declared > >> an apostate and threatened with death > >> > >> From modern, moderate Morocco comes yet another example of why we > >> don't see more sincere Muslim reformers. Ahmed Assid said: "To call > >> [upon people] to follow Islam by the use of violence and constraint is > >> an act of terrorism." For that, he has been condemned, declared a > >> non-Muslim, and threatened with death. > >> > >> Now wait a minute. We're constantly told that the overwhelming > >> majority of Muslims condemn violence and terror and abhor the violence > >> done in Islam's name. So why isn't Ahmed Assid celebrated as a hero, > >> instead of fearing for his life? > >> > >> Tiny Minority of Extremists Update: Morocco: Comments About Islam > >> Spark Firestorm," by Mohamed Saadouni for Magharebia, May 7 (thanks to > >> Twostellas): > >> > >> Casablanca Moroccan activist Ahmed Assid has unleashed a torrent > >> of criticism, including a takfir fatwa from a leading salafist > >> preacher, for making controversial comments about Islam. > >> > >> During a three-day seminar at the 10th national congress of the > >> Moroccan Association of Human Rights (AMDH) in Rabat, which ended on > >> April 21st, Assid suggested that religious school textbooks lured > >> youths to violence. > >> > >> To call [upon people] to follow Islam by the use of violence and > >> constraint is an act of terrorism," he said. > >> > >> Assid should be sued for insulting the prophet and ridiculing > >> Islam, salafist preacher Sheikh Mohammed Fizazi said during a lecture > >> at Ibn Tofail University in Kenitra. > >> > >> Yet the strongest reaction came from Sheikh Hassan Kettani, who > >> accused Assid of kufr. In describing him as a "criminal" and "enemy of > >> God", Kettani issued a call for "silencing his voice". > >> > >> In a statement posted on Facebook, Kettani said that Assid had > >> "crossed all lines in provoking Moroccans in particular and the ummah > >> of Islam in general by deliberately insulting and desecrating each and > >> every one of their sanctities". > >> > >> "In his impudence, he [Assid] went as far as to claim that the > >> Quran contains no eloquence, ridiculing and underestimating the > >> language of Quran," Kettani's statement went on. > >> > >> By this Kettani apparently means that the Qur'an teaches violence, and > >> so Assid is ridiculing the Qur'an by rejecting violence. > >> > >> Assid later defended his comments. > >> > >> "The thing that attracts attention is the violent, uncivilised > >> nature of this campaign that lacks the simplest values of dialogue and > >> right to different opinions, and thus seeks to consolidate a culture > >> that we don't need here in Morocco, that is the culture of > >> confiscation, of trial, incitement and threats, et cetera," Assid told > >> Magharebia. > >> > >> "These are very negative matters that we as viable forces > >> believing in democracy have to fight," he said. "There will always be > >> differences, but we nevertheless must continue to engage in dialogue, > >> debates and rapprochement," > >> > >> He said his words at the AMDH seminar were distorted and taken out > >> of context. > >> > >> "The words of anyone may not be construed so as to destroy him and > >> incite others against him in such a serious manner," Assid said. " We > >> have to refute arguments with arguments, which is the best option for > >> the Moroccan experience."... > >> > >> Refute arguments with arguments? I have never known an Islamic > >> supremacist to do that. From Reza Aslan to Omid Safi to Haroon Moghul > >> to Caner K. Dagli and all the rest of them, Islamic supremacists > >> content themselves with smearing and insulting those whom they fear > >> and hate. They never deal with pro-freedom advocates' arguments. > >> > >> Posted by Robert on May 8, 2013 10:40 AM > >> > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
