Hehehe, orang Islam kepakasa cuma diam aja kalo ngeliat ulama nyuruh melakukan kekerasan.
Mau bilang si ulama itu bejad, ga bisa krn yg ngomong itu ulama, dan ga mungkin ulama itu bejad. Mau ngedukung ocehan ulama jg ga bisa, krn berarti diri mereka itu jg bejad. Kepaksa kaing2 kayak anjing kejepit buntut dan nyerang ke orang yg memberitakan apa yg diomongin ulama. On 5/9/13, dimaswur <dimas...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Ni orang idiot kwadrat cuma bs kaing2 kayak anjing kejepit buntut, ga bs > ngasih komentar sama sekali atas apa yg dialami ulama di Maroko tsb. >> Betul2 tipikal anti Islam > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, itemabu2 <itemabu2@...> wrote: >> >> Ni orang tolol cuma bs kaing2 kayak anjing kejepit buntut, ga bs >> ngasih komentar sama sekali atas apa yg dialami ulama di Maroko tsb. >> >> Betul2 tipikal Islam. >> >> >> On 5/8/13, dimaswur <dimaswur@...> wrote: >> > Hehehe... AntiIslam itu emang pada IDIOT dan suka pada agama yg benar, >> > yang >> > benar2 bejad dan biadab. >> >> >> > >> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, itemabu2 <itemabu2@> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hehehe... Islam itu emang agama yg benar, benar2 bejad dan biadab. >> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/05/morocco-muslim-cleric-condemns-violence-in-islams-name-is-declared-an-apostate-and-threatened-with-d.html >> >> >> >> Morocco: Muslim cleric condemns violence in Islam's name, is declared >> >> an apostate and threatened with death >> >> >> >> From modern, moderate Morocco comes yet another example of why we >> >> don't see more sincere Muslim reformers. Ahmed Assid said: "To call >> >> [upon people] to follow Islam by the use of violence and constraint is >> >> an act of terrorism." For that, he has been condemned, declared a >> >> non-Muslim, and threatened with death. >> >> >> >> Now wait a minute. We're constantly told that the overwhelming >> >> majority of Muslims condemn violence and terror and abhor the violence >> >> done in Islam's name. So why isn't Ahmed Assid celebrated as a hero, >> >> instead of fearing for his life? >> >> >> >> Tiny Minority of Extremists Update: Morocco: Comments About Islam >> >> Spark Firestorm," by Mohamed Saadouni for Magharebia, May 7 (thanks to >> >> Twostellas): >> >> >> >> Casablanca — Moroccan activist Ahmed Assid has unleashed a torrent >> >> of criticism, including a takfir fatwa from a leading salafist >> >> preacher, for making controversial comments about Islam. >> >> >> >> During a three-day seminar at the 10th national congress of the >> >> Moroccan Association of Human Rights (AMDH) in Rabat, which ended on >> >> April 21st, Assid suggested that religious school textbooks lured >> >> youths to violence. >> >> >> >> To call [upon people] to follow Islam by the use of violence and >> >> constraint is an act of terrorism," he said. >> >> >> >> Assid should be sued for insulting the prophet and ridiculing >> >> Islam, salafist preacher Sheikh Mohammed Fizazi said during a lecture >> >> at Ibn Tofail University in Kenitra. >> >> >> >> Yet the strongest reaction came from Sheikh Hassan Kettani, who >> >> accused Assid of kufr. In describing him as a "criminal" and "enemy of >> >> God", Kettani issued a call for "silencing his voice". >> >> >> >> In a statement posted on Facebook, Kettani said that Assid had >> >> "crossed all lines in provoking Moroccans in particular and the ummah >> >> of Islam in general by deliberately insulting and desecrating each and >> >> every one of their sanctities". >> >> >> >> "In his impudence, he [Assid] went as far as to claim that the >> >> Quran contains no eloquence, ridiculing and underestimating the >> >> language of Quran," Kettani's statement went on. >> >> >> >> By this Kettani apparently means that the Qur'an teaches violence, and >> >> so Assid is ridiculing the Qur'an by rejecting violence. >> >> >> >> Assid later defended his comments. >> >> >> >> "The thing that attracts attention is the violent, uncivilised >> >> nature of this campaign that lacks the simplest values of dialogue and >> >> right to different opinions, and thus seeks to consolidate a culture >> >> that we don't need here in Morocco, that is the culture of >> >> confiscation, of trial, incitement and threats, et cetera," Assid told >> >> Magharebia. >> >> >> >> "These are very negative matters that we as viable forces >> >> believing in democracy have to fight," he said. "There will always be >> >> differences, but we nevertheless must continue to engage in dialogue, >> >> debates and rapprochement," >> >> >> >> He said his words at the AMDH seminar were distorted and taken out >> >> of context. >> >> >> >> "The words of anyone may not be construed so as to destroy him and >> >> incite others against him in such a serious manner," Assid said. " We >> >> have to refute arguments with arguments, which is the best option for >> >> the Moroccan experience."... >> >> >> >> Refute arguments with arguments? I have never known an Islamic >> >> supremacist to do that. From Reza Aslan to Omid Safi to Haroon Moghul >> >> to Caner K. Dagli and all the rest of them, Islamic supremacists >> >> content themselves with smearing and insulting those whom they fear >> >> and hate. They never deal with pro-freedom advocates' arguments. >> >> >> >> Posted by Robert on May 8, 2013 10:40 AM >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > > > ------------------------------------ Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
