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________________________________ From: Tawangalun <tawanga...@yahoo.com> Coba kamu larang bini Lu agar gak kawin sepeninggal lu mampus.Nanti kita lihat dia akan patuh gak. Tawangalun. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, itemabu2 <itemabu2@...> wrote: > > Hehehe.... Aisya ga ada keluhan? Emang tuh, dia digebukin jg ga > ngeluh. Dia dilarang kawin lagi, jg ga ngeluh. > > Tp dia, hehehe.... nyuruh adiknya nyusuin cowok spy si cowok jadi > muhrimnya dan bisa keluar masuk kamar Aisya. > > Yg ngelarang bininya kawin lagi itu adalah auloh dgn masukan dr nabi, > krn nabi cemburu. Itu nunjukin bhw si nabi takut bininya kawin lagi > setelah dia mampus, shg auloh aka nabi bikin ayat. > > Jadi sebetulnya bukannya si Aisya yg rela ngejanda sampe mati, tp dia > dilarang kawin lagi. > > Lu ini tukang ngibul, ga pernah ada ocehan Aisya bhw dia emang pengen > ngejanda sampe mati. > > > > On 5/12/13, Tawangalun <tawangalun@...> wrote: > > Sing jelas Aisyah sebagai bini Nabi gak pernah ada keluhan ttg > > suaminya,bahkan ketika suaminya sudah gak adapun Dia rela menjanda.Itu > > tandanya bahwa Dia bini yg diperlakukan apik oleh suaminya.Sekarang misal > > ITEM mati belum tentu sebulan lagi bininya gak kawin lagi. > > > > Tawangalun. > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, itemabu2 <itemabu2@> wrote: > >> > >> Kalo ga salah, si tawangalun ini suka sesumbar ibunya diembat di usia > >> 12 thn, lalu kasus ibunya ini dipake unt membenarkan praktek kawin dgn > >> anak ingusan di Islam. > >> > >> Yg pasti sih orang Islam yg ngomong begitu dgn bangganya, kalo bukan > >> si tawang ini. > >> > >> > >> > >> On 5/12/13, Tawangalun <tawangalun@> wrote: > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > A Real Love Story > >> > > >> > Muhammad & Ayesha > >> > 'World's Greatest Love Story' > >> > > >> > "Why did Mohamed marry a child, only 9 years old?" > >> > > >> > Another very important question with an amazing answer. > >> > > >> > Read . . "The World's Greatest Love Story" > >> > > >> > But first . . > >> > > >> > A young Muslim school girl wrote to us, asking about the age of Ayesha > >> > at > >> > the time of her marriage with prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him. She > >> > like > >> > many Muslims today was concerned about this issue due to questions > >> > coming > >> > from non-Muslims. > >> > > >> > Here's her question: > >> > > >> > HELP! I am 9th grade student of Catholic school here in Karachi, > >> > Pakistan. > >> > > >> > Help us please! We have been given assignment: "Why did Muhammad marry > >> > an > >> > immature, nine year old girl?" > >> > > >> > The teachers here at St. Patrick's Church of course, are not Muslim and > >> > they > >> > are giving us this assignment to explain something we don't know > >> > anything > >> > about. > >> > > >> > Here is the assignment question they gave to us girls. > >> > > >> > Answer this question in detail: Why did Mohamed marry little Ayesha when > >> > she > >> > was only an immature girl of 6 years? > >> > > >> > Here is the simple answer: Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, > >> > did > >> > not marry a girl who was too young to be married. > >> > > >> > Let's start at the beginning and put this all in perspective. > >> > > >> > First of all, not all questions are true questions. Sometime people put > >> > statments in the questions that are not true. > >> > > >> > Therefore, we have to clarify some facts before we go any further: > >> > "Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, did not marry Ayesha when she was > >> > an > >> > immature little girl." > >> > > >> > Let us rephrase the question in the proper way, inshallah: > >> > > >> > " Did Muhammad, peace be upon him, marry a girl too young for > >> > marriage?" > >> > And the answer is: "NO. He did not" > >> > > >> > This is a misunderstanding of stories (ahadeeth) of Muhammad, peace be > >> > upon > >> > him, in Saheeh Al Bukhari. > >> > OK! So - What Was Ayesha's Age At Marriage to Prophet Muhammad (peace > >> > be > >> > upon him)? > >> > > >> > From: "Answering Harsh Questions About Islam" - by Sheik Yusuf > >> > > >> > Note: 1. It was the custom of the Arab people to make arranged > >> > marriages of their children to insure tribal relations and protect > >> > social > >> > status, etc. > >> > > >> > Note: 2. Ayesha's father (Abu Bakr) was the one offering her in > >> > marriage to the prophet, peace be upon him. > >> > > >> > Note: 3. Her parents had already offered her in marriage to > >> > someone > >> > else before offering her in marriage to the prophet, peace be upon him. > >> > > >> > Note: 4. Islam came to correct all of the wrong things people > >> > were > >> > doing. > >> > > >> > Also check out other "Harsh Questions" about Muhammad (peace be upon > >> > him) on > >> > www.ProphetOfIslam.com > >> > > >> > First, consider the source of information. What we know of the > >> > relationship > >> > between Aisha and Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, is coming > >> > directly > >> > from Aisha herself. So this is the place to start. > >> > > >> > We know that she is one of the major narrators of ahadeeth (traditions, > >> > narrations and stories of the prophet, peace be upon him). According to > >> > scholars count, she has narrated over 2,200 authentic traditions, more > >> > than > >> > many of the companions of Muhammad, peace be upon him. > >> > > >> > Her parents offered their daughter in marriage to Muhammad, peace be > >> > upon > >> > him, as was customary in their culture at the time. However, the > >> > prophet, > >> > peace be upon him, did not accept this and they waited a a few of years, > >> > and > >> > then again offered their daughter to him in marriage. > >> > > >> > From the hadeeth narrated by Aisha herself, it appears she was at the > >> > age of > >> > 6 when her mother came to her while she was playing outside in the dirt. > >> > Her > >> > mother took her into their home where her father, who was a life long > >> > best > >> > friend of Muhammad, was sitting with the prophet, peace be upon him, and > >> > the > >> > offer of marriage was being discussed. She then tells us she went back > >> > outside to play. This was at the age of six. > >> > > >> > Cleary she was offered to him in marriage, but obviously it was not > >> > accepted > >> > until some years later, when she again narrates a similar incident and > >> > at > >> > that time she was married to the prophet, peace be upon him. > >> > > >> > She tells us they had consumated the marriage when she was old enough > >> > and > >> > ready (and she tells us she was very pleased about the whole entire > >> > thing). > >> > So, if she is having no problem with any of this, then who is > >> > complaining? > >> > What is wrong with some people, that they superimpose their hangups and > >> > personal issues with other people, supposing what they would do in > >> > similar > >> > cases is what they think everyone would do. > >> > > >> > We have to understand Islam is all about the worship of only one God, > >> > and > >> > not making any partners with Him in worship. That is the focus of > >> > Islam. > >> > > >> > Next, we have to understand that Islam is all about "Rights and > >> > Limits". > >> > The Quran clarifies what everyone's rights are and what the limits are > >> > as > >> > well. > >> > > >> > At the time of this occurance, women around the world had very little or > >> > no > >> > rights in those days and the men knew no limits in their dealings with > >> > the > >> > women. > >> > > >> > One of the problems was that a man could marry off his daughter at any > >> > age > >> > and she could not refuse. > >> > > >> > It was at that time when Allah revealed the verse in the fourth chapter > >> > of > >> > the Quran, entitled "The Women" to offer protection for women in such > >> > circumstances. Read: > >> > > >> > "O you who believe! You are forbiddent to inherit women against their > >> > will." > >> > - Surah An-Nisaa' (Chapter 4:19) > >> > > >> > It was through this matrimony of marriage to the prophet, peace be upon > >> > him, > >> > that we found the example of the meaning of the limitations set forth > >> > by > >> > Almighty God (Allah) in His Quran. > >> > > >> > Let's go over the information in more detail: > >> > > >> > First of all, Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, was offered the > >> > marriage > >> > to Ayesha by her father and mother on more than one occasion. Once when > >> > Ayesha was six, her mother summoned her into the house where she heard > >> > the > >> > proposal of marriage being offered by her father to his life long > >> > friend, > >> > Muhammad, peace be upon him, as was the custom of the Arabs in those > >> > days. > >> > Muhammad, peace be upon him, did not accept this offer at that time, > >> > even > >> > though it was customary for them, as she was not yet of age. > >> > > >> > [Note: it is her father offering the marriage to his lifelong friend > >> > (Muhammad, peace be upon him)] The prophet, peace be upon him, did not > >> > marry > >> > her and take her to his home at the time and she says she returned back > >> > to > >> > place outside. > >> > > >> > She did not marry him and returned to her friends and went back outside > >> > to > >> > play. [Again - please note: they did not get married at all on this > >> > occassion] > >> > > >> > A few years later when she was old enough to marry according to Islam > >> > (she > >> > was able to bear children) she did accept the proposal of marriage and > >> > she > >> > did marry the prophet, peace be upon him. > >> > > >> > We find that the girl must be old enough to have children and to be able > >> > to > >> > determine what her will is. The prophet, peace be upon him, married her > >> > at > >> > the youngest age a girl can get married. That is, she was old enough to > >> > be > >> > considered eligible for marriage and having enough wisdom to make such > >> > a > >> > choice even at her young age. > >> > > >> > Also, she was a virgin. This was to show Muslims about how to treat the > >> > young girls when they get married and not to rush into having sex with > >> > them > >> > until they are ready and fully prepared. > >> > > >> > All of this is recorded in the hadeeths narrated by Ayesha herself in > >> > regard > >> > to the treatment that she received from the prophet, peace be upon him. > >> > > >> > Now we call attention to something very interesting about the subject > >> > of > >> > adultry and what some people accused Aisha of doing while married to > >> > the > >> > prophet, peace be upon him. > >> > > >> > As a reward for her commitment to Allah and to Islam, Allah honored her > >> > in > >> > surah an-Nur by clearing her of any suspicion of illegal sex with a > >> > companion, as some liars had charged against her. There were ten verses > >> > revealed in regard to this incident alone about Ayesha. > >> > > >> > Surah An-Nur (chapter 24, verses 11 - 21) > >> > > >> > Surely, Those who brought forth the slander (against Ayesha) are a > >> > group > >> > among you. Consider it not a bad thing for you. No - it is good for > >> > you. > >> > Every many among them will be paid that which he has earned of the sin, > >> > and > >> > as for him among them who had the greater share in it, his will be a > >> > great > >> > torment. > >> > Why then, didn't you (the) believeing men and the believing women, when > >> > you > >> > heard it (the slander) think good of your own people and say, "This is > >> > an > >> > obvious lie" > >> > Why didn't they produce four eye witnesses? Since they have not > >> > produced > >> > witnesses, then for Allah, they are liars. > >> > Had it not been for the Grace of Allah and His Mercy unto you (those who > >> > did > >> > not defend Ayesha) in this world and in the Hereafter, a great torment > >> > would > >> > have touched you for that whereof you had spoken. > >> > When you were propogating it (the lie) with your tongues and uttering > >> > with > >> > your mouths something of which you had no knowledge, you considered it > >> > a > >> > small thing, while with Allah - it was very great. > >> > And when you heard it, why didn't you say, "It is not right for us to > >> > speak > >> > of this. Glory be to You (O Allah) this is a great lie" > >> > Allah forbids you from it and warns you not to repeat the like of this > >> > forever, if you are believers. > >> > > >> > These verses make it clear for believers. We must never engage in > >> > accusing > >> > anyone of adultry or fornication, without being an actual eyewitness to > >> > such > >> > an act. Even then, it requires four eyewitnesses, all at the same time. > >> > Spreading such tales around is nothing but the worst kind of slander and > >> > it > >> > will be a source of punishment for those who do so. > >> > > >> > MOTHER OF THE BELIEVERS > >> > > >> > Ayesha was also given the distinct title of Ummul Mu'mineen (Mother of > >> > the > >> > Believers) even though she never had a single child. Allah has honored > >> > her > >> > so much for her patience and dedication. > >> > > >> > Again, it is Ayesha herself, may Allah be pleased with her, who tells us > >> > in > >> > her own words all about the offers of marriage from her father to the > >> > prophet, peace be upon him, and of the actual marriage when it did take > >> > place years later. She also describes in glowing terms their > >> > engagement, > >> > marriage, life together and life after his death - all in the best of > >> > terms. > >> > > >> > Ayesha never said a single bad thing against her husband and described > >> > him > >> > as the best of men and the example of the Quran itself. She learned from > >> > him > >> > and passed on the most valuable knowledge of family relations in general > >> > and > >> > marriage in particular through her explanation of her own relationship > >> > of > >> > our prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him. > >> > > >> > She tells of running races and playing together, enjoying sporting and > >> > competition events together, and mentions her personal intimacy with > >> > prophet > >> > Muhammad, peace be upon him, in the most wonderful terms. Her advice > >> > and > >> > instructions to both men and women regarding establishing and > >> > maintaining > >> > the best relationship between man and wife is still the best of counsel > >> > we > >> > find today. > >> > > >> > As noted above, even Allah the Creator and Sustainer of the universe, > >> > has > >> > defended her honor and integrity in His Book. > >> > > >> > Ayesha gave a beautiful account of marriage to the prophet Muhammad, > >> > peace > >> > be upon him. She mentioned the detailed descriptions of events and > >> > happenings before and during their marriage. And very important - she > >> > demonstrated here continued commitment to the memory of her husband, > >> > peace > >> > be upon him, and her firm belief about being reunited with him in the > >> > Paradise. > >> > > >> > You could really say about their story - "..and they all lived happily > >> > ever > >> > after - in Paradise." > >> > This represents the very best of marriages between a man and a woman in > >> > human history. > >> > > >> > COMPARED TO ROMEO AND JULIET > >> > > >> > Now let's Compare the English Classic of William Shakespere's "Romeo > >> > And > >> > Juliet" to the story of "Muhammad and Aisha" > >> > William Shakespeare might have done the western world a much better > >> > service > >> > if, instead of telling a story of two young teenagers sneaking around > >> > behind > >> > their parents backs, having an affair, then when they couldn't get what > >> > they > >> > wanted, both committed suicide (by the way, according to Judaism, > >> > Christianity and Islam - they both went to Hell forever) - > >> > > >> > Shakespere could have done the world a much better service by telling > >> > the > >> > true story of "Muhammad and Aisha" = these were real people, who did > >> > believe > >> > in the One God of Adam, Abraham, Moses and Jesus (peace be upon them), > >> > they > >> > lived blessed lives on earth and will live beautiful lives in Paradise > >> > - > >> > "Happily ever after" (really!) > >> > > >> > GOODNESS COMES TO BELIEVERS > >> > > >> > I would like to encourage all of our brothers and sisters everywhere, > >> > to > >> > keep in mind what Islam teaches us regarding all such issues: > >> > > >> > Goodness only comes to those who are the true believers and the bad > >> > only > >> > reaches those who deny Almighty God and are of the evil doing > >> > disbelievers. > >> > > >> > This life is but a test for all of us. And in the end, Allah Almighty > >> > will > >> > bring us all back in front of Him, for the Judgment. Then the > >> > disbelievers > >> > will see what it was they were denying and lying about. > >> > > >> > We ask Allah the Almighty One God to guide all of the people and save > >> > all of > >> > us, ameen. > >> > > >> > Read more about the real stories of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him > >> > at: > >> > www.ProphetOfIslam.com > >> > > >> > Learn about the rights of women (and all of us) on www.IslamsWomen.com > >> > > >> > More? www.SearchForIslam.com and type in the KEYWORDS you want > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! 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