jelas beda lah. item ga punya pengikut yg bermental binatang kaya muhammad majikannya, yg siap membantai siapa saja yg ngelanggar aturan si muhammad.
kalo aisha kawin, pasti dibantai langsung ama orang2 yg udah dibrainwashed ama si mamat. kalo suami yg baik itu, kalo dia tau dia bakal meninggalkan istrinya selamanya, dia justru pesan ama istrinya cari pendamping lagi. biar istrinya ga kesepian. itu namanya suami yg baik. dasar muhammad manusia paling rakus sedunia, udah mati aja maruk. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Tawangalun" <tawangalun@...> wrote: > > Coba kamu larang bini Lu agar gak kawin sepeninggal lu mampus.Nanti kita > lihat dia akan patuh gak. > > Tawangalun. > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, itemabu2 <itemabu2@> wrote: > > > > Hehehe.... Aisya ga ada keluhan? Emang tuh, dia digebukin jg ga > > ngeluh. Dia dilarang kawin lagi, jg ga ngeluh. > > > > Tp dia, hehehe.... nyuruh adiknya nyusuin cowok spy si cowok jadi > > muhrimnya dan bisa keluar masuk kamar Aisya. > > > > Yg ngelarang bininya kawin lagi itu adalah auloh dgn masukan dr nabi, > > krn nabi cemburu. Itu nunjukin bhw si nabi takut bininya kawin lagi > > setelah dia mampus, shg auloh aka nabi bikin ayat. > > > > Jadi sebetulnya bukannya si Aisya yg rela ngejanda sampe mati, tp dia > > dilarang kawin lagi. > > > > Lu ini tukang ngibul, ga pernah ada ocehan Aisya bhw dia emang pengen > > ngejanda sampe mati. > > > > > > > > On 5/12/13, Tawangalun <tawangalun@> wrote: > > > Sing jelas Aisyah sebagai bini Nabi gak pernah ada keluhan ttg > > > suaminya,bahkan ketika suaminya sudah gak adapun Dia rela menjanda.Itu > > > tandanya bahwa Dia bini yg diperlakukan apik oleh suaminya.Sekarang misal > > > ITEM mati belum tentu sebulan lagi bininya gak kawin lagi. > > > > > > Tawangalun. > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, itemabu2 <itemabu2@> wrote: > > >> > > >> Kalo ga salah, si tawangalun ini suka sesumbar ibunya diembat di usia > > >> 12 thn, lalu kasus ibunya ini dipake unt membenarkan praktek kawin dgn > > >> anak ingusan di Islam. > > >> > > >> Yg pasti sih orang Islam yg ngomong begitu dgn bangganya, kalo bukan > > >> si tawang ini. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> On 5/12/13, Tawangalun <tawangalun@> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > A Real Love Story > > >> > > > >> > Muhammad & Ayesha > > >> > 'World's Greatest Love Story' > > >> > > > >> > "Why did Mohamed marry a child, only 9 years old?" > > >> > > > >> > Another very important question with an amazing answer. > > >> > > > >> > Read . . "The World's Greatest Love Story" > > >> > > > >> > But first . . > > >> > > > >> > A young Muslim school girl wrote to us, asking about the age of Ayesha > > >> > at > > >> > the time of her marriage with prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him. She > > >> > like > > >> > many Muslims today was concerned about this issue due to questions > > >> > coming > > >> > from non-Muslims. > > >> > > > >> > Here's her question: > > >> > > > >> > HELP! I am 9th grade student of Catholic school here in Karachi, > > >> > Pakistan. > > >> > > > >> > Help us please! We have been given assignment: "Why did Muhammad marry > > >> > an > > >> > immature, nine year old girl?" > > >> > > > >> > The teachers here at St. Patrick's Church of course, are not Muslim and > > >> > they > > >> > are giving us this assignment to explain something we don't know > > >> > anything > > >> > about. > > >> > > > >> > Here is the assignment question they gave to us girls. > > >> > > > >> > Answer this question in detail: Why did Mohamed marry little Ayesha > > >> > when > > >> > she > > >> > was only an immature girl of 6 years? > > >> > > > >> > Here is the simple answer: 
Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, > > >> > did > > >> > not marry a girl who was too young to be married. > > >> > > > >> > Let's start at the beginning and put this all in perspective. > > >> > > > >> > First of all, not all questions are true questions. Sometime people put > > >> > statments in the questions that are not true. > > >> > > > >> > Therefore, we have to clarify some facts before we go any further: > > >> > "Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, did not marry Ayesha when she was > > >> > an > > >> > immature little girl." > > >> > > > >> > Let us rephrase the question in the proper way, inshallah: > > >> > > > >> > "
Did Muhammad, peace be upon him, marry a girl too young for > > >> > marriage?" > > >> > And the answer is: "NO. He did not" > > >> > > > >> > This is a misunderstanding of stories (ahadeeth) of Muhammad, peace be > > >> > upon > > >> > him, in Saheeh Al Bukhari. > > >> > OK! So - What Was Ayesha's Age At Marriage to Prophet Muhammad (peace > > >> > be > > >> > upon him)? > > >> > > > >> > From: "Answering Harsh Questions About Islam" - by Sheik Yusuf > > >> > > > >> > Note: 
1. It was the custom of the Arab people to make arranged > > >> > marriages of their children to insure tribal relations and protect > > >> > social > > >> > status, etc. > > >> > > > >> > Note: 
2. Ayesha's father (Abu Bakr) was the one offering her in > > >> > marriage to the prophet, peace be upon him. > > >> > > > >> > Note: 
3. Her parents had already offered her in marriage to > > >> > someone > > >> > else before offering her in marriage to the prophet, peace be upon him. > > >> > > > >> > Note: 
4. Islam came to correct all of the wrong things people > > >> > were > > >> > doing. > > >> > > > >> > Also check out other "Harsh Questions" about Muhammad (peace be upon > > >> > him) on > > >> > www.ProphetOfIslam.com > > >> > > > >> > First, consider the source of information. What we know of the > > >> > relationship > > >> > between Aisha and Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, is coming > > >> > directly > > >> > from Aisha herself. So this is the place to start. > > >> > > > >> > We know that she is one of the major narrators of ahadeeth (traditions, > > >> > narrations and stories of the prophet, peace be upon him). According to > > >> > scholars count, she has narrated over 2,200 authentic traditions, more > > >> > than > > >> > many of the companions of Muhammad, peace be upon him. > > >> > > > >> > Her parents offered their daughter in marriage to Muhammad, peace be > > >> > upon > > >> > him, as was customary in their culture at the time. However, the > > >> > prophet, > > >> > peace be upon him, did not accept this and they waited a a few of > > >> > years, > > >> > and > > >> > then again offered their daughter to him in marriage. > > >> > > > >> > From the hadeeth narrated by Aisha herself, it appears she was at the > > >> > age of > > >> > 6 when her mother came to her while she was playing outside in the > > >> > dirt. > > >> > Her > > >> > mother took her into their home where her father, who was a life long > > >> > best > > >> > friend of Muhammad, was sitting with the prophet, peace be upon him, > > >> > and > > >> > the > > >> > offer of marriage was being discussed. She then tells us she went back > > >> > outside to play. This was at the age of six. > > >> > > > >> > Cleary she was offered to him in marriage, but obviously it was not > > >> > accepted > > >> > until some years later, when she again narrates a similar incident and > > >> > at > > >> > that time she was married to the prophet, peace be upon him. > > >> > > > >> > She tells us they had consumated the marriage when she was old enough > > >> > and > > >> > ready (and she tells us she was very pleased about the whole entire > > >> > thing). > > >> > So, if she is having no problem with any of this, then who is > > >> > complaining? > > >> > What is wrong with some people, that they superimpose their hangups and > > >> > personal issues with other people, supposing what they would do in > > >> > similar > > >> > cases is what they think everyone would do. > > >> > > > >> > We have to understand Islam is all about the worship of only one God, > > >> > and > > >> > not making any partners with Him in worship. That is the focus of > > >> > Islam. > > >> > > > >> > Next, we have to understand that Islam is all about "Rights and > > >> > Limits". > > >> > The Quran clarifies what everyone's rights are and what the limits are > > >> > as > > >> > well. > > >> > > > >> > At the time of this occurance, women around the world had very little > > >> > or > > >> > no > > >> > rights in those days and the men knew no limits in their dealings with > > >> > the > > >> > women. > > >> > > > >> > One of the problems was that a man could marry off his daughter at any > > >> > age > > >> > and she could not refuse. > > >> > > > >> > It was at that time when Allah revealed the verse in the fourth chapter > > >> > of > > >> > the Quran, entitled "The Women" to offer protection for women in such > > >> > circumstances. Read: > > >> > > > >> > "O you who believe! You are forbiddent to inherit women against their > > >> > will." > > >> > - Surah An-Nisaa' (Chapter 4:19) > > >> > > > >> > It was through this matrimony of marriage to the prophet, peace be upon > > >> > him, > > >> > that we found the example of the meaning of the limitations set forth > > >> > by > > >> > Almighty God (Allah) in His Quran. > > >> > > > >> > Let's go over the information in more detail: > > >> > > > >> > First of all, Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, was offered the > > >> > marriage > > >> > to Ayesha by her father and mother on more than one occasion. Once when > > >> > Ayesha was six, her mother summoned her into the house where she heard > > >> > the > > >> > proposal of marriage being offered by her father to his life long > > >> > friend, > > >> > Muhammad, peace be upon him, as was the custom of the Arabs in those > > >> > days. > > >> > Muhammad, peace be upon him, did not accept this offer at that time, > > >> > even > > >> > though it was customary for them, as she was not yet of age. > > >> > > > >> > [Note: it is her father offering the marriage to his lifelong friend > > >> > (Muhammad, peace be upon him)] The prophet, peace be upon him, did not > > >> > marry > > >> > her and take her to his home at the time and she says she returned back > > >> > to > > >> > place outside. > > >> > > > >> > She did not marry him and returned to her friends and went back outside > > >> > to > > >> > play. [Again - please note: they did not get married at all on this > > >> > occassion] > > >> > > > >> > A few years later when she was old enough to marry according to Islam > > >> > (she > > >> > was able to bear children) she did accept the proposal of marriage and > > >> > she > > >> > did marry the prophet, peace be upon him. > > >> > > > >> > We find that the girl must be old enough to have children and to be > > >> > able > > >> > to > > >> > determine what her will is. The prophet, peace be upon him, married her > > >> > at > > >> > the youngest age a girl can get married. That is, she was old enough to > > >> > be > > >> > considered eligible for marriage and having enough wisdom to make such > > >> > a > > >> > choice even at her young age. > > >> > > > >> > Also, she was a virgin. This was to show Muslims about how to treat the > > >> > young girls when they get married and not to rush into having sex with > > >> > them > > >> > until they are ready and fully prepared. > > >> > > > >> > All of this is recorded in the hadeeths narrated by Ayesha herself in > > >> > regard > > >> > to the treatment that she received from the prophet, peace be upon him. > > >> > > > >> > Now we call attention to something very interesting about the subject > > >> > of > > >> > adultry and what some people accused Aisha of doing while married to > > >> > the > > >> > prophet, peace be upon him. > > >> > > > >> > As a reward for her commitment to Allah and to Islam, Allah honored her > > >> > in > > >> > surah an-Nur by clearing her of any suspicion of illegal sex with a > > >> > companion, as some liars had charged against her. There were ten verses > > >> > revealed in regard to this incident alone about Ayesha. > > >> > > > >> > Surah An-Nur (chapter 24, verses 11 - 21) > > >> > > > >> > Surely, Those who brought forth the slander (against Ayesha) are a > > >> > group > > >> > among you. Consider it not a bad thing for you. No - it is good for > > >> > you. > > >> > Every many among them will be paid that which he has earned of the sin, > > >> > and > > >> > as for him among them who had the greater share in it, his will be a > > >> > great > > >> > torment. > > >> > Why then, didn't you (the) believeing men and the believing women, when > > >> > you > > >> > heard it (the slander) think good of your own people and say, "This is > > >> > an > > >> > obvious lie" > > >> > Why didn't they produce four eye witnesses? Since they have not > > >> > produced > > >> > witnesses, then for Allah, they are liars. > > >> > Had it not been for the Grace of Allah and His Mercy unto you (those > > >> > who > > >> > did > > >> > not defend Ayesha) in this world and in the Hereafter, a great torment > > >> > would > > >> > have touched you for that whereof you had spoken. > > >> > When you were propogating it (the lie) with your tongues and uttering > > >> > with > > >> > your mouths something of which you had no knowledge, you considered it > > >> > a > > >> > small thing, while with Allah - it was very great. > > >> > And when you heard it, why didn't you say, "It is not right for us to > > >> > speak > > >> > of this. Glory be to You (O Allah) this is a great lie" > > >> > Allah forbids you from it and warns you not to repeat the like of this > > >> > forever, if you are believers. > > >> > > > >> > These verses make it clear for believers. We must never engage in > > >> > accusing > > >> > anyone of adultry or fornication, without being an actual eyewitness to > > >> > such > > >> > an act. Even then, it requires four eyewitnesses, all at the same time. > > >> > Spreading such tales around is nothing but the worst kind of slander > > >> > and > > >> > it > > >> > will be a source of punishment for those who do so. > > >> > > > >> > MOTHER OF THE BELIEVERS > > >> > > > >> > Ayesha was also given the distinct title of Ummul Mu'mineen (Mother of > > >> > the > > >> > Believers) even though she never had a single child. Allah has honored > > >> > her > > >> > so much for her patience and dedication. > > >> > > > >> > Again, it is Ayesha herself, may Allah be pleased with her, who tells > > >> > us > > >> > in > > >> > her own words all about the offers of marriage from her father to the > > >> > prophet, peace be upon him, and of the actual marriage when it did take > > >> > place years later. She also describes in glowing terms their > > >> > engagement, > > >> > marriage, life together and life after his death - all in the best of > > >> > terms. > > >> > > > >> > Ayesha never said a single bad thing against her husband and described > > >> > him > > >> > as the best of men and the example of the Quran itself. She learned > > >> > from > > >> > him > > >> > and passed on the most valuable knowledge of family relations in > > >> > general > > >> > and > > >> > marriage in particular through her explanation of her own relationship > > >> > of > > >> > our prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him. > > >> > > > >> > She tells of running races and playing together, enjoying sporting and > > >> > competition events together, and mentions her personal intimacy with > > >> > prophet > > >> > Muhammad, peace be upon him, in the most wonderful terms. Her advice > > >> > and > > >> > instructions to both men and women regarding establishing and > > >> > maintaining > > >> > the best relationship between man and wife is still the best of counsel > > >> > we > > >> > find today. > > >> > > > >> > As noted above, even Allah the Creator and Sustainer of the universe, > > >> > has > > >> > defended her honor and integrity in His Book. > > >> > > > >> > Ayesha gave a beautiful account of marriage to the prophet Muhammad, > > >> > peace > > >> > be upon him. She mentioned the detailed descriptions of events and > > >> > happenings before and during their marriage. And very important - she > > >> > demonstrated here continued commitment to the memory of her husband, > > >> > peace > > >> > be upon him, and her firm belief about being reunited with him in the > > >> > Paradise. > > >> > > > >> > You could really say about their story - "..and they all lived happily > > >> > ever > > >> > after - in Paradise." > > >> > This represents the very best of marriages between a man and a woman in > > >> > human history. > > >> > > > >> > COMPARED TO ROMEO AND JULIET > > >> > > > >> > Now let's Compare the English Classic of William Shakespere's "Romeo > > >> > And > > >> > Juliet" to the story of "Muhammad and Aisha" > > >> > William Shakespeare might have done the western world a much better > > >> > service > > >> > if, instead of telling a story of two young teenagers sneaking around > > >> > behind > > >> > their parents backs, having an affair, then when they couldn't get what > > >> > they > > >> > wanted, both committed suicide (by the way, according to Judaism, > > >> > Christianity and Islam - they both went to Hell forever) - > > >> > > > >> > Shakespere could have done the world a much better service by telling > > >> > the > > >> > true story of "Muhammad and Aisha" = these were real people, who did > > >> > believe > > >> > in the One God of Adam, Abraham, Moses and Jesus (peace be upon them), > > >> > they > > >> > lived blessed lives on earth and will live beautiful lives in Paradise > > >> > - > > >> > "Happily ever after" (really!) > > >> > > > >> > GOODNESS COMES TO BELIEVERS > > >> > > > >> > I would like to encourage all of our brothers and sisters everywhere, > > >> > to > > >> > keep in mind what Islam teaches us regarding all such issues: > > >> > > > >> > Goodness only comes to those who are the true believers and the bad > > >> > only > > >> > reaches those who deny Almighty God and are of the evil doing > > >> > disbelievers. > > >> > > > >> > This life is but a test for all of us. And in the end, Allah Almighty > > >> > will > > >> > bring us all back in front of Him, for the Judgment. Then the > > >> > disbelievers > > >> > will see what it was they were denying and lying about. > > >> > > > >> > We ask Allah the Almighty One God to guide all of the people and save > > >> > all of > > >> > us, ameen. > > >> > > > >> > Read more about the real stories of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him > > >> > at: > > >> > www.ProphetOfIslam.com > > >> > > > >> > Learn about the rights of women (and all of us) on www.IslamsWomen.com > > >> > > > >> > More? www.SearchForIslam.com and type in the KEYWORDS you want > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! 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