kenapa atuh elo nddak masuk syiah ajah lol ? --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, SA <susan_th45@...> wrote: > > Gw sih hanya mau sampaikan kenyataankalo Syiah itu lebih islami dari > Sunni.Alasan: Syiah itu ahlul Bayt.Sunni itu lahir karena klaim otoritas > aja.Buktikan kalo gw provokasi.Lu yang ga bisa melihat kenyataan,lalu menuduh > gw provokasi.. > Lu coba jujur aja,lu benci syiah kan? > > > > --, pinpinyuliansyah <pinpinyuliansyah@...> : > > : pinpinyuliansyah <pinpinyuliansyah@...> > : [proletar] Re: aljazeera: Report: China wants N Korea focus on economy > : proletar@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > si susan ini katanya lahir sebagai islam, terus masuk kresten gara gara > megang alkitap yang terasa anyep. > > > > sekarang dia ngomong sunni dan syaih dan mencoba memprovokasi. > > > > ini anak emang koploknya kebangetan deh . > > > > saya yakin, sangat yakin, si susan ini tidak merepresentasikan umat kristen > Indonesia secara umum. Diamah umat kristen kampungan seperti item dkk. > > > > Susan...susan... > > > > Ini Proletar Bung ! > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, SA <susan_th45@> wrote: > > > > > > Hehehe.. lu itu sunni apaan.. pura2 ga tau kalo shahadat sunni dan syiah > > itu beda.lu kalah sama ahlul bayt koq..syiah lebih islami dari lusoalnya > > syiah itu ahlul bayt,lu tuh mah kuat karena sunni mayoritas aja.coba ukur > > kedekatan genealogis ama nabi kalian..siapa lebih dekat ama mamad..hayooh.. > > > > > > > > > , Musik hari Ini <musikhariini@> : > > > > > > : Musik hari Ini <musikhariini@> > > >  [proletar] Re: aljazeera: Report: China wants N Korea focus on economy > > >  "proletar@yahoogroups.com" <proletar@yahoogroups.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sunni & siah itu sama saja ideologi nya,yang berbeda cuma politik > > > > > > > > > > > > susanto kayaknya buta dengan alam sekeliling......atau cuma bodoh. > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > From: SA <susan_th45@> > > > > > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 4:05 PM > > > > > > Subject: R: [proletar] Re: aljazeera: Report: China wants N Korea focus on > > economy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > Ah lu pink sepertinya pura2 aja..Selama Sunni atawa Syiah sendiri jadi > > mayoritas absolutdan sekte2 islam lainnya ga punya pengaruh > > apa-apa,keliatan aman..tapi bukan berarti aman sekali..Kalo prosentasi > > sekte2 lain di dalam sebuah negara islam mulai berpengaruh secara > > politik,nah... sandiwara akan segera dipentas..negri bersimbah > > darah..Brunei, Qatar, malabar itu tinggal waktu aja yang membuktikan.Islam > > dari awalnya memang ditakdir utk ribut dan saling berbunuhan koq.. > > > > > > > > > > > > ---, pinpinyuliansyah <pinpinyuliansyah@> : > > > > > > > > > > > > : pinpinyuliansyah <pinpinyuliansyah@> > > > > > >  [proletar] Re: aljazeera: Report: China wants N Korea focus on economy > > > > > > : proletar@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > apakah Islam malapetaka untuk penduduk brunai darussalam ? apakah Islam > > malapetaka untuk negara qatar ? Apakah Islam malapetaka untuk Singapore ? > > Apakah Islam malapetaka untuk penduduk kampung malabar ? > > > > > > > > > > > > tidak adil atuh, menghukum Islam di sini atas kejadian yang terjadi di sana. > > > > > > > > > > > > okeh ? > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Bukan Pedanda <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Di dunia kafir zaman perang, zaman saling berbunuhan sudah berakhir..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sekarang zaman memajukan ekonomi, zaman meratakan kemakmuran, zaman > > > meratakan kebahagian bagi semua manusia.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kecuali di dar al Islam dimana mereka masih asik saling beebunuhan.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Islam itu, saya biloang dan saya ulang adalah malampetakan untuk ummat > > > manusi, artinya juga malapetaka buat orang Islam sendiri. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Report: China wants N Korea focus on economy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Message conveyed to Kim Jong-un's envoy during apparent fence-mending > > > visit against backdrop of tensions on peninsula. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Last Modified: 04 Jun 2013 22:36 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Experts have said the three-day visit was an attempt by North Korea to > > > mend fences with China [Reuters] > > > > > > > > > > > > > A North Korean envoy to China, sent by the countryâs > > > > > > > > > > > > > leader last month, has been told to focus on its economy rather than > > > > > > > > > > > > > increase regional tensions, according to Reuters news agency. > > > > > > > > > > > > > The news agency cited an unnamed source in a report on Tuesday > > > > > > > > > > > > > stating that Kim Jong-un had sent Choe Ryong-hae, vice chairman of the > > > > > > > > > > > > > countryâs top military body. > > > > > > > > > > > > > "[North] Korea has not mellowed," said the source, who apparently did not > > > attend the meetings but has since spoken to both sides to which he > > > > > > > > > > > > > has regular access. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Experts have said the three-day visit was an attempt by North Korea > > > > > > > > > > > > > to mend fences with its only major diplomatic ally, which has been > > > > > > > > > > > > > critical of the country. > > > > > > > > > > > > > After the meetings, in which Choe eventually held talks with Chinese > > > > > > > > > > > > > President Xi Jinping, North Korea promised to take "positive steps for > > > > > > > > > > > > > peace" while China repeated its mantra of wanting "calm and restraint" > > > > > > > > > > > > > on the Korean peninsula. > > > > > > > > > > > > > China tried to convince North Korea to stop its nuclear and missile > > > > > > > > > > > > > tests, which "put China in a difficult position and are not conducive to > > > [North] Korea", said the source. > > > > > > > > > > > > > China, which is North Koreaâs biggest trade partner and aid donor, > > > > > > > > > > > > > advised North Korea to focus on rebuilding its ruined economy instead, > > > > > > > > > > > > > which is something it has said before. > > > > > > > > > > > > > A former senior US official said China's insistence that North Korea > > > > > > > > > > > > > halt testing would be in line with recent signs it was running out of > > > > > > > > > > > > > patience with North Korea. > > > > > > > > > > > > > "What I've heard from talking to Chinese officials and American > > > > > > > > > > > > > officials who are talking to them is that top Chinese officials now > > > > > > > > > > > > > emphasise that the principal goal is to terminate the nuclear weapons > > > > > > > > > > > > > programme of North Korea," the ex-official said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Reuters news agency also reported that Choe also presented a âterseâ > > > hand-written letter from the North Korean leader to Xi Jinping, the > > > Chinese Premier. > > > > > > > > > > > > > China has repeatedly urged North Korea to return to the so-called > > > > > > > > > > > > > six-party talks, which are aimed at getting the North to give up its > > > > > > > > > > > > > nuclear weapons. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Choe told the Chinese that the six-party talk format did not work. In > > > 2009, North Korea said it would never return to the talks, which also > > > > > > > > > > > > > included South Korea, the US, Japan and Russia. > > > > > > > > > > > > > North Korea would instead seek bilateral talks with the various parties > > > first, said the source, without elaborating. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Choe added that abandoning its nuclear-weapons programme could not be a > > > prerequisite for talks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Source: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Reuters > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Report: China wants N Korea focus on economy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Message conveyed to Kim Jong-un's envoy during apparent fence-mending > > > visit against backdrop of tensions on peninsula. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Last Modified: 04 Jun 2013 22:36 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Experts have said the three-day visit was an attempt by North Korea to > > > mend fences with China [Reuters] > > > > > > > > > > > > > A North Korean envoy to China, sent by the countryâs > > > > > > > > > > > > > leader last month, has been told to focus on its economy rather than > > > > > > > > > > > > > increase regional tensions, according to Reuters news agency. > > > > > > > > > > > > > The news agency cited an unnamed source in a report on Tuesday > > > > > > > > > > > > > stating that Kim Jong-un had sent Choe Ryong-hae, vice chairman of the > > > > > > > > > > > > > countryâs top military body. > > > > > > > > > > > > > "[North] Korea has not mellowed," said the source, who apparently did not > > > attend the meetings but has since spoken to both sides to which he > > > > > > > > > > > > > has regular access. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Experts have said the three-day visit was an attempt by North Korea > > > > > > > > > > > > > to mend fences with its only major diplomatic ally, which has been > > > > > > > > > > > > > critical of the country. > > > > > > > > > > > > > After the meetings, in which Choe eventually held talks with Chinese > > > > > > > > > > > > > President Xi Jinping, North Korea promised to take "positive steps for > > > > > > > > > > > > > peace" while China repeated its mantra of wanting "calm and restraint" > > > > > > > > > > > > > on the Korean peninsula. > > > > > > > > > > > > > China tried to convince North Korea to stop its nuclear and missile > > > > > > > > > > > > > tests, which "put China in a difficult position and are not conducive to > > > [North] Korea", said the source. > > > > > > > > > > > > > China, which is North Koreaâs biggest trade partner and aid donor, > > > > > > > > > > > > > advised North Korea to focus on rebuilding its ruined economy instead, > > > > > > > > > > > > > which is something it has said before. > > > > > > > > > > > > > A former senior US official said China's insistence that North Korea > > > > > > > > > > > > > halt testing would be in line with recent signs it was running out of > > > > > > > > > > > > > patience with North Korea. > > > > > > > > > > > > > "What I've heard from talking to Chinese officials and American > > > > > > > > > > > > > officials who are talking to them is that top Chinese officials now > > > > > > > > > > > > > emphasise that the principal goal is to terminate the nuclear weapons > > > > > > > > > > > > > programme of North Korea," the ex-official said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Reuters news agency also reported that Choe also presented a âterseâ > > > hand-written letter from the North Korean leader to Xi Jinping, the > > > Chinese Premier. > > > > > > > > > > > > > China has repeatedly urged North Korea to return to the so-called > > > > > > > > > > > > > six-party talks, which are aimed at getting the North to give up its > > > > > > > > > > > > > nuclear weapons. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Choe told the Chinese that the six-party talk format did not work. In > > > 2009, North Korea said it would never return to the talks, which also > > > > > > > > > > > > > included South Korea, the US, Japan and Russia. > > > > > > > > > > > > > North Korea would instead seek bilateral talks with the various parties > > > first, said the source, without elaborating. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Choe added that abandoning its nuclear-weapons programme could not be a > > > prerequisite for talks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Source: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Reuters > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hide Comments > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
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