Disurga itu yg ada hanya kenikmatan,la opo nikmatnya membunuh?entahlah kalau bagi sing uteke njeblos. Padahal antar penghuni surga yg ada hanya salama salama,jadi sumpah serapah saja gak ada.Makane orang yg sukak misuh2 kayak Yusfiq gak kanggo.Habis puasa 30 hari kan Idul Fitri dibebaskan nah apik kan.Bukan kayak Natal ujuk2 pesta gak seru deh. Habis didunia yg kayak penjara dilarang ini itu ini itu terus disurga dibebaskan kan seru.Pokoknya nyesel yg masuk surganya Bu Gabriel gur dikasih hidup kekal gak ada isine opo2.
Paulus anak wedus. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@...> wrote: > > > Tulisan Gabriella Rantau yang cerdas... > > Logis. > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Gabriella Rantau <gkrantau@> wrote: > > > > COBA direnungkan sejenak: Kalau segala sesuatu yg najis, haram di dunia > > lalu diperbolehkan di sorga Islam bukankah ini menunjukkan bhwallah, Islam > > dan Muhammad semuanya MUNAFIK! > > > > Mnrt anda apa saja yg diharamkan di dunia dihalalkan di sorga (Islam), maka > > pembunuhan dan kekejian lainnya juga halal di sorga Islam. > > > > Yg jelas WILDAN atau pemuda yg indah seperti lulu (mutiara) yg belum > > disentuh (Baca: belon dikerjaian oleh manusia atau jinn) jugasudah > > disediakan di sorga Islam. Luar biasa! Allah SWT rupanya bener2 PLIN-PLAN. > > Bukti bhw Allah Islam itu tidak lain dari avatar ciptaan Muhammad ibn > > Abdullah. > > > > Gabriella > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Tawangalun <tawangalun@> > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Thursday, 22 August 2013 6:16 AM > > Subject: Bukan BIDADARI tapi Anggurputih. Re: [proletar] The Guardian > > (Warraq) : Virgins? What virgins? > > > > > > > >  > > Bu biarlah didunia ini tempat melampiaskan nafsu sesukaknya tapi bagi wong > > Kafir saja,kalau bagi Islam dunia ini penjara Bu mau opo2 haram dikit2 > > haram.Tapi sesudah bisa lulus dari ujian didunia yg fana ini nanti diakerat > > akan diujo oleh Allah opo2 boleh,ngesex boleh,Khamr boleh,babi > > boleh.Diibaratkan jalan kesurga itu licin dan berbatu batu,sebaliknya jalan > > keneraka itu Highway tanpa bayar Toll.Nah masyarakat Barat yg tanpa rem > > sama sekali sekarang ini itulah jalan keneraka.Tapi kenapa justru bintang2 > > klas dunia masih bisa mati karena ngobat?karena jiwanya kosong Bu. > > > > Paulus anak wedus. > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Gabriella Rantau <gkrantau@> wrote: > > > > > > Pak anak Wedus, > > > > > > Itulah bedanya ajaran dari Tuhan yg suci dg yg sebaliknya. Coba renungkan > > > sejenak: Mabuk2 di dunia dilarang, di sorga diboehkan. Ngumbar seks di > > > dunia dilarang, di sorga malah disediakan 72 pelacur sorgawi. Yg sama di > > > dunia dan di akherat yaitu kaum peempuan terus saja dilecehkan. Mereka > > > dikatakan penghuni neraka yg paling mayoritas. Alasanya? Karena tidak > > > berterima kasih kpd suaminya. > > > > > > Terus saja penulis Qur;an (jelas bukan seorang yg maha pengasih, > > > pengampun dan maha bijaksana)àadalah laki2 yg frustrated di dunia dan > > > mengayal mendpat kepuasan seksuil di sorga. Masak torpedonya tidak pernah > > > letoy, terus siap bertempur. Seperti di dunia Muslim di sorga juga tidak > > > pernah membaca, tidak pernah tambah ilmu pengetahuan cuman melampiaskan > > > nafsu kedagingan mereka. > > > > > > Lalau apa kerja Auloh?Noton adegan syuuur? > > > > > > Gabriella > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: Tawangalun <tawangalun@> > > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Wednesday, 21 August 2013 5:06 PM > > > Subject: Bukan BIDADARI tapi Anggurputih. Re: [proletar] The Guardian > > > (Warraq) : Virgins? What virgins? > > > > > > > > > > > > à> > > Halah Bu surgamu hanya dikasih hidup kekal tanpa dispecifie ada apa > > > didalamnya.Padahal kalau cuman kekal tetanggaku yg 90 th itu malah > > > inginnya mati soale gak ada nikmat apa2 lagi.Jadi surga itu idealnya > > > kayak punyaknya Islam. > > > > > > Paulus anak wedus. > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Gabriella Rantau <gkrantau@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Bang Anak Wedus, Al Qur'an dlm bhs Arab mengatakan bhw HURIA itu > > > > 'ciptaan baru' karena yg nulis ayat itu sebenarnya tidak nyahok apa > > > > arti huria itu. Kemudian karena dikaitkan dengan kata kerja > > > > 'dikawinkan' maka 'huria' itu menjadi bidadari perawan. > > > > Sebenarnya dlm ahasa Syriac yg dibicarakan ilah orang yg masuk Janna > > > > (Bhs. Persia) "Akan disegarkan dengan setundun anggur putih!" Nah, > > > > cilakanya tulisan disegarkan "RAWAJ" itu sangat mirip dengan kata > > > > "Dikawinkan" = 'sawaj' (Ingat sawaj muta'a) > > > > Ãâà> > > > Akhirnya Muslim yg over-sexed dan tidak bisa memperoleh perempuan > > > > (boro2 perawan, apalagi bidadari) sangat senang dijanjikan bidadari yg > > > > selalu perawan dan 72 jumlahnya. > > > > Ãâà> > > > Ini artinya Muslim mengharapkan Auloh itu sebagai germo, penyedia > > > > perempuan, eh bidadari. Bedanya di bumi harus bayar sedang di Janna > > > > gratis asl mati shahid! > > > > Ãâà> > > > Heibat nian Al Qur'an ini. > > > > Ãâà> > > > Gabriella > > > > Ãâà> > > > PS Terjemahan 'tidak pernah disentuh' itu terjemahan yg sudah > > > > diper-mooi arti aslinya dlm Bahasa Arab 'tidak pernah tusuk vaginanya' > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: Tawangalun <tawangalun@> > > > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com > > > > Sent: Monday, 19 August 2013 9:13 PM > > > > Subject: Bukan BIDADARI tapi Anggurputih. Re: [proletar] The Guardian > > > > (Warraq) : Virgins? What virgins? > > > > > > > > Ãâà> > > > Wah picek juga orang ini cari di surah Waqiah 56:22.itu ttg mata > > > > jeli,lalu 55:56.itu ttg tunduk pandang dan gak pernah disentuh manusia > > > > dan jin.Lalu 55:72.yg jelita. > > > > Ayat2 diatas semua yg ttg bidadari.Masih ada ayat lain tapi itu > > > > dulu.Jangan ngotot anggur putih. > > > > > > > > Paulus anak wedus. > > > > > > > > --- In mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" > > > > <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tawang ini jelas sudah gila.. > > > > > > > > > > Luxenberg sudah menjelaskan bahwa nggak ada tuh di khurafah najis > > > > > al-Musahf dibilang anggur itu "Tunduk pandang dan bermata > > > > > jeli.2.Tidak pernah mens. 3.Segelnya renewable. 4.Belum pernah > > > > > disentuh oleh manusia dan jin." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com, "Tawangalun" <tawangalun@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Wong gemblung Yusfiq gak bisa njelasin kenapa kalau anggur putih > > > > > > kok ada keterangan: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.Tunduk pandang dan bermata jeli. > > > > > > 2.Tidak pernah mens. > > > > > > 3.Segelnya renewable. > > > > > > 4.Belum pernah disentuh oleh manusia dan jin. > > > > > > > > > > > > Paulus anak wedus. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" > > > > > > <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tawang memang orang gila... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yang membuktikan bahwa kata "huri" itu artinya buah anggur putih > > > > > > > adalah peneliti ilmiah... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sedangkan yang bilang kata huri itu artinya bidadari adalah > > > > > > > orang-orang dungu yagnakanjing yagn tidak berpendidikan... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com, "Tawangalun" > > > > > > > <tawangalun@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kenapa kamu kok selalu ingin membawa terjemahan bidadari > > > > > > > > menjadi anggur putih,opo takut pengin kalau saya nanti dikitari > > > > > > > > 72 supermodel? > > > > > > > > Lawong ayat lain disebut: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.Tunduk pandang,bermata jeli. > > > > > > > > 2.Tidak pernah mens. > > > > > > > > 3.Setiap habis berhubungan segelnya renewable. > > > > > > > > Anggur opo yg segelnya perlu di renewable,atau yg bermata jeli. > > > > > > > > Luxenburg Luling itu wong guwing ,ngira kalau surga itu > > > > > > > > bidadarinya tuwo kayak Marlene. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Paulus anak wedus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" > > > > > > > > <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tawang itu emang gila... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Orang bicara tentang arti berbagai kata di khurafah najis > > > > > > > > > al-Mushaf susunan orang Arab priitif dia bicara masaalah > > > > > > > > > "bahasa Arab sehari2 itu berbeda dg bhs Arab yg diajarkan di > > > > > > > > > pondok Gontor atau IAIN," > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tawang ini memang orang gila, sama gilanya dengan > > > > > > > > > johny-indon... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com, "Tawangalun" > > > > > > > > > <tawangalun@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > La memang bahasa Arab sehari2 itu berbeda dg bhs Arab yg > > > > > > > > > > diajarkan di pondok Gontor atau IAIN,tapi wong Arab bisa > > > > > > > > > > nangkap juga kalau diajak ngomong alumni Gontor. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Paulus anak wedus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com, Gabriella Rantau > > > > > > > > > > <gkrantau@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bagi Muslim yg jujur, yg ingin mengetahui apakah ayat2nya > > > > > > > > > > > berasal dari Allah atau dari manusia, silakan membaca > > > > > > > > > > > hasil riset Luxemberg. Risetnya berjudul 'Kata2 asing > > > > > > > > > > > dalam Al Qur'an.' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Umat Islam haqul-yakin bhw Bahasa Arab yg dipakai untuk > > > > > > > > > > > menyampaikan perintah Allah danÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâàyg > > > > > > > > > > > kemudian dituliskan menjadi Al Qur'an itu adalah bahasa > > > > > > > > > > > yg paling baik, paling lengkap, bahasa sorgawi. Ini > > > > > > > > > > > merupakan alasan mgengapa ayat2 Al Qur'an harus > > > > > > > > > > > dilafalkan dlm bahasa aslinya. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Luxemberg dlm researchnya menemukan lebih dari 200 kata > > > > > > > > > > > asing (kata2 berasal dari bahasa manusia, bukan dari > > > > > > > > > > > sorga) yg dipakai dlm al Qur'an. Banyak kata2 itu asalnya > > > > > > > > > > > Bahasa Persia (misalnya, firdaus, janna, > > > > > > > > > > > jahanam,ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâàdst.), bahasa Yahudi > > > > > > > > > > > (misalnya: Messsiah menjadi Al Masih), dari bahasa Yunani > > > > > > > > > > > Koine (misalnya: Injil dari salah ucap orang2 Kristen > > > > > > > > > > > Arab "Eaugenlion" = Kabar sukacita) dan bahkan bahasa > > > > > > > > > > > Ethiopia ( misalnya: hawariyun). Ini jelas membuktikan > > > > > > > > > > > bhw Bahasa al Qur'an bukan bahasa yg sempurna, bukan > > > > > > > > > > > bahasa sorgawi! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sebenarnya pd th. 1938Prof. Arthur Jeffreys dari London > > > > > > > > > > > sudah mengumpulkan kata2 asing yang ada di dalam Al > > > > > > > > > > > Qur'an.. Luxemburg menemukan kata2 Syriac (dialek Timur > > > > > > > > > > > dari bahasa Aram = bahasanya Yesus) yg rupanya salah > > > > > > > > > > > dimengerti dan diterjemahkan secara salah pula. Salah > > > > > > > > > > > satu kata itu ialah 'hurin' yg arti aslinya setundun > > > > > > > > > > > 'anggur warna putih - translucent'. Mula2 penterjemah yg > > > > > > > > > > > tidak tahu arti sebenarnya menterjemahkannya sebagai > > > > > > > > > > > 'bidadari perawan abadi'. Begitu juga kata 'rawaj' (= > > > > > > > > > > > disegarkan) yg dalam tulisannya sangat mirip dengan kata > > > > > > > > > > > ;sawaj' - 'kawin/dikawinkan'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jadi seebenarnya yg dijanjikanÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâàkepada > > > > > > > > > > > Muslim yg mati syuhada adalah: 'Disegarkan oleh setundun > > > > > > > > > > > anggur putih' tapi karena salah terjemahannya menjadi > > > > > > > > > > > 'dikawinkan dengan sejumlah bidadari' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kasihan benar semua yg mati syuhada, yg mati bom bunuh > > > > > > > > > > > diri termasuk Amrozi, Imam Samudra, Dr. Umar Top > > > > > > > > > > > (Malaysian) kalau mereka diijinkan masuk Janna, mereka > > > > > > > > > > > hanya diegarkan oleh setundun anggur putis' dan tidak > > > > > > > > > > > 'dikawinkan dg sejumlah bidadari'. OomTawangalun yg juga > > > > > > > > > > > berharap dapat ngerjain 72 bidadari (super model) akan > > > > > > > > > > > sangat kuciwa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Itulah sedihnya kalau orang dungu menyontek, akibatnya > > > > > > > > > > > menjadikan ribuan Muslim terperosok janji kosong. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gabriella > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > From: Bukan Pedanda <bukan.pedanda@> > > > > > > > > > > > To: mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, 19 August 2013 2:53 AM > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [proletar] The Guardian (Warraq) : Virgins? What > > > > > > > > > > > virgins? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâà> > > > > > > > > > > http://www.theguardian.com/books/2002/jan/12/books.guardianreview5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Culture > > > > > > > > > > > Books > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ibn Warraq > > > > > > > > > > > The Guardian, Saturday 12 January 2002 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Virgins? What virgins? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is widely believed that Muslim 'martyrs' enjoy rich > > > > > > > > > > > sensual rewards on reaching paradise. A new study > > > > > > > > > > > suggests they may be disappointed. Ibn Warraq reports > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In August, 2001, the American television channel CBS > > > > > > > > > > > aired an interview with a Hamas activist Muhammad Abu > > > > > > > > > > > Wardeh, who recruited terrorists for suicide bombings in > > > > > > > > > > > Israel. Abu Wardeh was quoted as saying: "I described to > > > > > > > > > > > him how God would compensate the martyr for sacrificing > > > > > > > > > > > his life for his land. If you become a martyr, God will > > > > > > > > > > > give you 70 virgins, 70 wives and everlasting happiness." > > > > > > > > > > > Wardeh was in fact shortchanging his recruits since the > > > > > > > > > > > rewards in Paradise for martyrs was 72 virgins. But I am > > > > > > > > > > > running ahead of things . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since September 11, news stories have repeated the story > > > > > > > > > > > of suicide bombers and their heavenly rewards, and > > > > > > > > > > > equally Muslim scholars and Western apologists of Islam > > > > > > > > > > > have repeated that suicide is forbidden in Islam. Suicide > > > > > > > > > > > (qatlu nafsi-hi) is not referred to in the Koran but is > > > > > > > > > > > indeed forbidden in the Traditions (Hadith in Arabic), > > > > > > > > > > > which are the collected sayings and doings attributed to > > > > > > > > > > > the Prophet and traced back to him through a series of > > > > > > > > > > > putatively trustworthy witnesses. They include what was > > > > > > > > > > > done in his presence that he did not forbid, and even the > > > > > > > > > > > authoritative sayings and doings of his companions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But the Hamas spokesman correctly uses the word martyr > > > > > > > > > > > (shahid) and not suicide bomber, since those who blow > > > > > > > > > > > themselves up almost daily in Israel and those who died > > > > > > > > > > > on September 11 were dying in the noblest of all causes, > > > > > > > > > > > Jihad, which is an incumbent religious duty, established > > > > > > > > > > > in the Koran and in the Traditions as a divine > > > > > > > > > > > institution, and enjoined for the purpose of advancing > > > > > > > > > > > Islam. While suicide is forbidden, martyrdom is > > > > > > > > > > > everywhere praised, welcomed, and urged: "By the Being in > > > > > > > > > > > Whose Hand is my life, I love that I should be killed in > > > > > > > > > > > the way of Allah; then I should be brought back to life > > > > > > > > > > > and be killed again in His way..."; "The Prophet said, > > > > > > > > > > > 'Nobody who enters Paradise will ever like to return to > > > > > > > > > > > this world even if he were offered everything, except the > > > > > > > > > > > martyr who will desire to return to this world and be > > > > > > > > > > > killed 10 times for the sake of the great honour that has > > > > > > > > > > > been bestowed upon him'." [Sahih Muslim, chapters 781, > > > > > > > > > > > 782, The Merit > > of > > > > Jihad and the > > > > > > > > > > > Merit of Martyrdom.] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What of the rewards in paradise? The Islamic paradise is > > > > > > > > > > > described in great sensual detail in the Koran and the > > > > > > > > > > > Traditions; for instance, Koran sura 56 verses 12 -40 ; > > > > > > > > > > > sura 55 verses 54-56 ; sura 76 verses 12-22. I shall > > > > > > > > > > > quote the celebrated Penguin translation by NJ Dawood of > > > > > > > > > > > sura 56 verses 12- 39: "They shall recline on jewelled > > > > > > > > > > > couches face to face, and there shall wait on them > > > > > > > > > > > immortal youths with bowls and ewers and a cup of purest > > > > > > > > > > > wine (that will neither pain their heads nor take away > > > > > > > > > > > their reason); with fruits of their own choice and flesh > > > > > > > > > > > of fowls that they relish. And theirs shall be the > > > > > > > > > > > dark-eyed houris, chaste as hidden pearls: a guerdon for > > > > > > > > > > > their deeds... We created the houris and made them > > > > > > > > > > > virgins, loving companions for those on the right hand..." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One should note that most translations, even those by > > > > > > > > > > > Muslims themselves such as A Yusuf Ali, and the British > > > > > > > > > > > Muslim Marmaduke Pickthall, translate the Arabic (plural) > > > > > > > > > > > word Abkarun as virgins, as do well-known lexicons such > > > > > > > > > > > the one by John Penrice. I emphasise this fact since many > > > > > > > > > > > pudic and embarrassed Muslims claim there has been a > > > > > > > > > > > mistranslation, that "virgins" should be replaced by > > > > > > > > > > > "angels". In sura 55 verses 72-74, Dawood translates the > > > > > > > > > > > Arabic word " hur " as "virgins", and the context makes > > > > > > > > > > > clear that virgin is the appropriate translation: > > > > > > > > > > > "Dark-eyed virgins sheltered in their tents (which of > > > > > > > > > > > your Lord's blessings would you deny?) whom neither man > > > > > > > > > > > nor jinnee will have touched before." The word hur occurs > > > > > > > > > > > four times in the Koran and is usually translated as a > > > > > > > > > > > "maiden with dark eyes". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Two points need to be noted. First, there is no mention > > > > > > > > > > > anywhere in the Koran of the actual number of virgins > > > > > > > > > > > available in paradise, and second, the dark-eyed damsels > > > > > > > > > > > are available for all Muslims, not just martyrs. It is in > > > > > > > > > > > the Islamic Traditions that we find the 72 virgins in > > > > > > > > > > > heaven specified: in a Hadith (Islamic Tradition) > > > > > > > > > > > collected by Al-Tirmidhi (died 892 CE [common era*]) in > > > > > > > > > > > the Book of Sunan (volume IV, chapters on The Features of > > > > > > > > > > > Paradise as described by the Messenger of Allah [Prophet > > > > > > > > > > > Muhammad], chapter 21, About the Smallest Reward for the > > > > > > > > > > > People of Paradise, (Hadith 2687). The same hadith is > > > > > > > > > > > also quoted by Ibn Kathir (died 1373 CE ) in his Koranic > > > > > > > > > > > commentary (Tafsir) of Surah Al-Rahman (55), verse 72: > > > > > > > > > > > "The Prophet Muhammad was heard saying: 'The smallest > > > > > > > > > > > reward for the people of paradise is an abode where there > > > > > > > > > > > are 80,000 servants and 72 wives, over which stands a > > > > > > > > > > > dome decorated with pearls, aquamarine, and ruby, as wide > > > > > > > > > > > as > > the > > > > distance from > > > > > > > > > > > Al-Jabiyyah [a Damascus suburb] to Sana'a [Yemen]'." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Modern apologists of Islam try to downplay the evident > > > > > > > > > > > materialism and sexual implications of such descriptions, > > > > > > > > > > > but, as the Encyclopaedia of Islam says, even orthodox > > > > > > > > > > > Muslim theologians such as al Ghazali (died 1111 CE) and > > > > > > > > > > > Al-Ash'ari (died 935 CE) have "admitted sensual pleasures > > > > > > > > > > > into paradise". The sensual pleasures are graphically > > > > > > > > > > > elaborated by Al-Suyuti (died 1505 ), Koranic commentator > > > > > > > > > > > and polymath. He wrote: "Each time we sleep with a houri > > > > > > > > > > > we find her virgin. Besides, the penis of the Elected > > > > > > > > > > > never softens. The erection is eternal; the sensation > > > > > > > > > > > that you feel each time you make love is utterly > > > > > > > > > > > delicious and out of this world and were you to > > > > > > > > > > > experience it in this world you would faint. Each chosen > > > > > > > > > > > one [ie Muslim] will marry seventy [sic] houris, besides > > > > > > > > > > > the women he married on earth, and all will have > > > > > > > > > > > appetising vaginas." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One of the reasons Nietzsche hated Christianity was that > > > > > > > > > > > it "made something unclean out of sexuality", whereas > > > > > > > > > > > Islam, many would argue, was sex-positive. One cannot > > > > > > > > > > > imagine any of the Church fathers writing ecstatically of > > > > > > > > > > > heavenly sex as al-Suyuti did, with the possible > > > > > > > > > > > exception of St Augustine before his conversion. But > > > > > > > > > > > surely to call Islam sex-positive is to insult all Muslim > > > > > > > > > > > women, for sex is seen entirely from the male point of > > > > > > > > > > > view; women's sexuality is admitted but seen as something > > > > > > > > > > > to be feared, repressed, and a work of the devil. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Scholars have long pointed out that these images are > > > > > > > > > > > clearly drawn pictures and must have been inspired by the > > > > > > > > > > > art of painting. Muhammad, or whoever is responsible for > > > > > > > > > > > the descriptions, may well have seen Christian miniatures > > > > > > > > > > > or mosaics representing the gardens of paradise and has > > > > > > > > > > > interpreted the figures of angels rather literally as > > > > > > > > > > > those of young men and young women. A further textual > > > > > > > > > > > influence on the imagery found in the Koran is the work > > > > > > > > > > > of Ephrem the Syrian [306-373 CE], Hymns on Paradise, > > > > > > > > > > > written in Syriac, an Aramaic dialect and the language of > > > > > > > > > > > Eastern Christianity, and a Semitic language closely > > > > > > > > > > > related to Hebrew and Arabic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This naturally leads to the most fascinating book ever > > > > > > > > > > > written on the language of the Koran, and if proved to be > > > > > > > > > > > correct in its main thesis, probably the most important > > > > > > > > > > > book ever written on the Koran. Christoph Luxenberg's > > > > > > > > > > > book, Die Syro-Aramaische Lesart des Koran, available > > > > > > > > > > > only in German, came out just over a year ago, but has > > > > > > > > > > > already had an enthusiastic reception, particularly among > > > > > > > > > > > those scholars with a knowledge of several Semitic > > > > > > > > > > > languages at Princeton, Yale, Berlin, Potsdam, Erlangen, > > > > > > > > > > > Aix-en-Provence, and the Oriental Institute in Beirut. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Luxenberg tries to show that many obscurities of the > > > > > > > > > > > Koran disappear if we read certain words as being Syriac > > > > > > > > > > > and not Arabic. We cannot go into the technical details > > > > > > > > > > > of his methodology but it allows Luxenberg, to the > > > > > > > > > > > probable horror of all Muslim males dreaming of sexual > > > > > > > > > > > bliss in the Muslim hereafter, to conjure away the > > > > > > > > > > > wide-eyed houris promised to the faithful in suras > > > > > > > > > > > XLIV.54; LII.20, LV.72, and LVI.22. Luxenberg 's new > > > > > > > > > > > analysis, leaning on the Hymns of Ephrem the Syrian, > > > > > > > > > > > yields "white raisins" of "crystal clarity" rather than > > > > > > > > > > > doe-eyed, and ever willing virgins - the houris. > > > > > > > > > > > Luxenberg claims that the context makes it clear that it > > > > > > > > > > > is food and drink that is being offerred, and not > > > > > > > > > > > unsullied maidens or houris. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In Syriac, the word hur is a feminine plural adjective > > > > > > > > > > > meaning white, with the word "raisin" understood > > > > > > > > > > > implicitly. Similarly, the immortal, pearl-like ephebes > > > > > > > > > > > or youths of suras such as LXXVI.19 are really a > > > > > > > > > > > misreading of a Syriac expression meaning chilled raisins > > > > > > > > > > > (or drinks) that the just will have the pleasure of > > > > > > > > > > > tasting in contrast to the boiling drinks promised the > > > > > > > > > > > unfaithful and damned. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As Luxenberg's work has only recently been published we > > > > > > > > > > > must await its scholarly assessment before we can pass > > > > > > > > > > > any judgements. 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