Ga sungkan-sungkan lah Mas. Nanti kalau pada mewek, biar "wadul". Kan bakalan rame? Yang benar kita katakan benar namun santun.
Salam, nDeboost "wadul = melapor. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, PAREWA <parew...@...> wrote: > > emang ngga tau diri rajin pula memfitnah. Nanti kalo kita postingin ayat demi ayat satu demi satu yg ngawur2 itu pada mewek pula. > > --- Pada Sel, 20/7/10, rezameutia rezameu...@... menulis: > > Dari: rezameutia rezameu...@... > Judul: [proletar] ROHULQUDUS Re: PERTUMBUHAN AGAMA MASIH TERJADI ... > Kepada: proletar@yahoogroups.com > Tanggal: Selasa, 20 Juli, 2010, 3:29 PM > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > iya saya sih dah maklum lah. > > > > di milis ini udah banyak wong kristen sing agama ne tolol, tapi sok ngomongin agama islam yang memakai akal. > > > > jadi, "harap maklum". > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "ndeboost" rambitesemak@ wrote: > > > > > > Maklum lah Mas, sudah keberatan nama beliau itu > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "rezameutia" <rezameutia@> wrote: > > > > > > > > tuh kan.., tulisan orang kristen zombie yang percaya tanpa memakai akalnya bahwa "roh kudus adalah kebenaran dan kebenaran adalah roh kudus". > > > > > > > > 'kebenaran', 'kesalahan', atau 'kesesatan', semuanya ada pada diri manusia sendiri dengan cara memakai akal. sehingga semua yang dikatakan 'kebenaran', 'kesalahan', atau 'kesesatan' bentuknya berbeda-beda untuk setiap manusia, karena tergantung akalnya masing-masing. > > > > > > > > oleh sebab itu, tidak ada yang namanya 'kebenaran absolut'. > > > > > > > > coba dah dipake dikiiit akalnya, gitu lho?! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "pemerhatidunia" <pemerhatidunia@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Ketika aku tulis di sini aku mengabarkan kebenaran ajaran Isa. Rohulqudus pasti membantuku. > > > > > > > > > > Rohulqudus itu Roh Kebenaran. Ia mengajarkan kebenaran. Siapa mengajarkan kebenaran, ia dipakai Roh ini. > > > > > > > > > > Kebenaran itu adanya di hati. Ilmunya ilmu roso, salah satu ilmu kejawen yg paling tinggi. Rasakan segala sesuatunya dengan batin yg jernih dan suci. Kalau kita MERASA damai dan bahagia dalam batin kita, itu kebenaran. Cinta itu kebenaran, kesetiaan itu kebenaran, kejujuran itu kebenaran, keberanian juga, dan masih banyak lagi hal yang kita rasakan damai dan bahagia, itu kebenaran. > > > > > > > > > > Rohulqudus itu Roh Kebenaran. Ia lintas agama, tidak hanya dalam Kristen, tetapi dalam Islam, Buddha dan yang lain, dimanapun ada orang mengajarkan kebenaran, Roh itu membantunya. > > > > > > > > > > Siapa menolak kebenaran, maka ia terus akan membohongi dirinya sendiri. Menolak kebenaran sama dengan tidak merasa damai. Ia tidak akan pernah tenang dalam batinnya. > > > > > > > > > > pemdun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Tawangalun" <tawangalun@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Coba deh Roh Kudus suruh ndatangi aku nanti saya converse opo enggak pengin njajal saya. > > > > > > > > > > > > Shalom, > > > > > > Tawangalun. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "pemerhatidunia" <pemerhatidunia@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agama itu motivator dan pelakunya adalah bukan manusia semata, melainkan dari sesuatu yg supranatural. Berikut adalah salah satu bukti. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Salah satu pertumbuhan agama yg paling tidak masuk akal saat ini adalah pertumbuhan kristen di dunia timur. Kalau dari data di youtube dan web, kalian akan dapati bahwa pertumbuhan orang masuk kristen itu tidak masuk akal. > > > > > > > Di salah satu daerah (dari sekian daerah) di China, orang masuk Kristen itu 10-15 ribu orang PER HARI. > > > > > > > Dan di India ada yg hingga 20 ribu orang perhari!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Al Jazeera memberitakan bahwa 6 juta orang pindah masuk Kristen tiap tahun (?? kurasa lebih) di Afrika. Itu juga tidak masuk akal mengingat berapa misionaris yg bisa mempengaruhi orang sekian banyak dalam waktu singkat. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mereka tidak dipaksa apalagi diinjili spt di televisi indonesia. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mereka menerima mujijat supranatural macam2, lalu percaya. Bukan pendetanya yg hebat, tetapi seperti ada kekuatan2 alam supranatural yg sedang bekerja di sana siang malam membuat orang percaya pada Jesus. Di banyak daerah di sana, pendetanya tidak punya cukup waktu membantu orang, bahkan untuk membaptis saja mereka tidak sanggup karena terlalu banyak. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aku yakin itu adalah kerjaan ROHULQUDUS, Rohullah yang memperlengkapi Isa AlMasih, sedang bekerja dalam hati manusia. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Korea sudah terjadi. China sedang terjadi. India sedang terjadi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tidak mungkin tidak Indonesia akan terjadi juga. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sebentar lagi, aku tahu itu akan terjadi di Indonesia. Akan turun ROH yang akan membungkus negeri ini dan mempengaruhinya demikian rupa hingga ROHANI orang2 yang tadinya kosong menjadi penuh, meluap dan membuat mereka menjadi penginjil di tempat mereka ada. Bayangkan seorang kyai kalau satu orang saja menerima pengaruh seperti itu, berubah total, lalu mengajak pengikutnya, apa tidak heboh?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dan itu PASTI terjadi, mengingat gagal totalnya sistem syariat Islam di seluruh dunia, dan produk mereka para teroris yang mengamuk di seluruh dunia, seperti berita2 di bawah ini yg kita dengar SETIAP HARI. Pembom2 bunuh diri itu sekarang mengarah pada masjid dan tempat2 suci... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dozens of anti-al-Qaida militiamen killed in suicide bombings > > > > > > > Seattle Times - Ned Parker, Usama Redha - ‎22 minutes ago‎ > > > > > > > Twin suicide bombings killed scores of people. 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It is something that no sane person can condone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Kampala horrible incident for which the Somali Islamist insurgent group, Al-Shabaab, has claimed responsibility (they say it was in retaliation for the presence of Ugandan troops in Somalia), evokes very sad memories of the simultaneous Al-Qaeda-directed US Embassy explosions in Nairobi and Dar es Salaam in 1998. > > > > > > > It is also a shrewd reminder that our borders are still permeable by terrorists; and that our region is still a target for terrorist attacks. For this reason, East Africans need to be on the alert, always conscious that the region remains insecure as long as Somalia continues to be under the rule of the gun with no prospects for peace and stability in sight. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is a need for the people of this region to be vigilant to ensure the security of not only their borders but also their homelands. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Al-Shabaab terrorist attack could not have been more ill-timed. It occurred at a time when Africans were in a frenzy, celebrating the historic success of the World Cup which was held for the first time on the African soil. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It was also during the finals of the world's most prestigious and popular event which, this time round, had been the African pride, especially because of the incredible way in which it was organised by the South Africans. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Second, the attack came as Uganda was putting final touches on the preparations for the AU summit and a continental youth conference on the sidelines of the main event. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Certainly, the aim of the terrorists was to disrupt these preparations by intimidating the hosts as well as the guests. Besides, the bombings happened just about two weeks after the meeting of East African defence chiefs on the Somali issue: they discussed the question of deploying an additional 2,000 troops to bring the AMISOM force level for Mogadishu to 8,100 peacekeepers (read: peace-enforcers, as there is no peace to keep in Somalia); it was also about a week after leaders of the regional grouping Igad had met in Addis Ababa to deliberate on the continuing political instability in the war-torn country. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, the Islamists must have been under intense psychological pressure when they decided to descend on Kampala with bombs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But while the world has expressed shock and sadness at, as well as condemnation of, the terrorist attack on innocent Ugandan civilians, it should be pointed out that the international community, and more specifically the UN, bears responsibility for the Ugandan tragedy because it has neglected Somalia. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The country has, since the overthrow of dictator Mohammed Siyad Barre in January 1991, been without a functioning government; it is beleaguered by civil war that has persisted for two decades without any serious efforts on the part of the world body to bring it to an end. Yet, Somalia, though stateless, is a member of the organisation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course a few attempts have been made towards addressing the Somali question, but without success. The failure surprises no one because the initiatives were rather erratic, and were based on a wrong political approach; wrong in several ways but the most prominent one being the seemingly agreed policy in the West, shared by some of Somalia's neighbours (particularly Ethiopia), that a radical Islamist Somalia was not acceptable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Somali Transitional Federal Government (TFG) cobbled in Nairobi in 2004 (with the help of Igad and US support) was conceived on the basis of that "principle"; its set up was designed to bring together warlords who had, since the ouster of Barre, been competing for the control of Mogadishu to share power, to the exclusion of "extremist" Islamic elements who also want a slice of the "political cake" in Somalia. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The consequence of this kind of power configuration has been the upsurge in Islamist insurgency, terrorism and piracy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add this page to your favorite Social Bookmarking websites > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ------------------------------------ Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! 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