Yah yah, bagaimana mau damai? Misalnya yg ga punya storing kirim pasukan N evangelis, bukannya kasih pengertian agar menahan diri.
Lalu kalau tetangga ngelempar batu, sono mindah pager hingga tetangga makin niat lagi ngelemparin batu? Btw, nT dan TOA rukun-rukun saja kan? --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, a.wid...@... wrote: > > Kalo saya sih, yg penting itu hidup damai...agama seharusnya bisa menjadi > peredam amarah...masalah ada yg keluar dan masuk agama itu hal lumrah, jangan > dibikin masalah lalu sampai bunuh bunuhan...kalo cuma nyari jeleknya aja, > pasti ada, apalagi kalo dibalut dengan kepentingan kelompok, makin runcing > deh rasa kebenciannya... Heran aja sekarang ini pemicu konflik justru muncul > dari masalah agama...alampun tidak menciptakan mahluk yg sama seragam, justru > beragam macam banyak sekali...kita tidak mungkin hidup dalam lingkungan > homogen, untuk bisa tentram harus dimulai dari hati masing masing...kata > kuncinya menghormati...kalau rasa saling menghormati berjalan baik, pasti > damai tentram...mencari cari dan mengungkit2 kesalahan masa lalu tidak akan > memberikan progres positif bagi ketentraman hidup...camkanlah, agama itu hal > pribadi...jangan dipolitisir dan tidak usah khawatir denga kuantity > anggotanya...keluar masuk adalah hal lumrah dan urusan masing2 pribadi... > -----Original Message----- > From: "sebuah.kenyataan" <sebuah.kenyat...@...> > Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com > Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 09:15:35 > To: <proletar@yahoogroups.com> > Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [proletar] Re: Muslim Hard-Liners in Central Java Attack Shadow > Puppet Shows > > Maklum saja, FPI itu isinya preman-preman pengangguran yang diindoktrinisasi > oleh Islam sehingga jadinya ya 100% Islam dan 100% preman. > > Gayanya pake sorban putih, celana buntung, jenggotan, teriak histeris > Allahuakbar, dengan tingkah laku bajingan. Kalau mereka punya pekerjaan, mana > mungkin ikut-ikutan organisasi kampungan macam FPI? > > Lebih hebatnya lagi, perilaku bibit-bibit terorisme macam kayak gini ini yang > dibela mati-matian oleh Ndeboost dan Tawangalun. Tapi tidak mengapa, Proletar > kita mana seru kalau tidak ada orang-orang seperti Ndeboost dan Tawangalun > yang hobi bikin dagelan? > > Kalau Proletar isinya cuma A.Widura, Ayubyahya, Jasadlelaki, David Silalahi, > Jusfiq, Kimhook, Wawan dan Richan Situmorang, bakalan aman-tentram. Nggak ada > dagelan, nggak seruuu...!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, a.widura@ wrote: > > > > Wedewww... segala wayang dimusuhin...yg ngga ngga aja....tu orang and his > > gang kayanya minta dikasih daerah suaka supaya bisa hidup sesuai kemauannya > > aja...ngga bisa hidup dalam lingkungan heterogen...cuma bikin keributan... > > -----Original Message----- > > From: "Wong" <wong_gendeng05@> > > Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com > > Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 08:34:15 > > To: <proletar@yahoogroups.com> > > Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [proletar] Re: Muslim Hard-Liners in Central Java Attack Shadow > > Puppet Shows > > > > Bajingaan, bangsat, biadab. > > > > Wayang adalah hiburan ketika saya masih kecil, ketika tinggal di kampung > > pedalaman, dimanapun jika ada dalang kondang manggung bermain wayang, saya > > smepatkan untuk nonton semalaman. Dan wayang tidak punya kesalahan apa2, > > kenapa harus di musuhi, dasar kamu Laskar syetan. > > > > mengapa wayang kamu musuhi, apa salahnya wayang? apakah karena agama kamu > > yaitu Islam yang menyuruh kamu melakukan pengrusakan wayang. kalo bener > > Islam menyuruh kamu untuk melakukan pengrusakan wayang maka saya katakan > > bahwa ISLAM ADALAH AGAMA SETAN. ISLAM AGAMA BANGSAT, ISLAM BUKAN AGAMA > > UNTUK ORANG BERADAB. dasar laskar jihad Bangsat. > > > > > > gak Rahayu > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "sunny" <ambon@> wrote: > > > > > > Refleksi : Kaum garis keras yang menyerang pertunjukan wayang kulit ini > > > adalah tidak lain dari pada orang Jawa, cuma saja beda dengan orang > > > jawa bisa mereka ini kebanyakan makan korma dan shishsi kebab kambing > > > gila akibatnya mereka mabuk aroma surgawi gurun pasir. Today Sidoarjo, > > > tomorrow Jokja and Solo? hehehehehehee > > > > > > Lama kelamaan pasti mereka akan melarang gamelang, karena dianggap > > > membunyikan suara iblis bin seythan demi memurtadisasikan umat untuk > > > dibawa ke neraka. Bukankah sobat-sobat kental mereka seperti Taliban di > > > Pakistan, Afghanistan atau juga Al Shahab di Somalia melarang > > > bunyi-bunyian iblis bin seythan? > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/home/muslim-hard-liners-in-central-java-attack-shadow-puppet-shows/401266 > > > > > > > > > Muslim Hard-Liners in Central Java Attack Shadow Puppet Shows > > > Candra Malik | October 14, 2010 > > > > > > Sukoharjo, Central Java. First it was churches and a minority Islamic > > > sect, then the gay community and a former Playboy editor. Now the > > > country's much-derided Muslim hard-liners are reportedly targeting one of > > > its most beloved icons: Wayang. > > > > > > Ki Slamet Gundono, a world-renowned dalang (puppet master) for the > > > traditional Javanese shadow puppetry, on Wednesday said hard-liners in > > > Sukoharjo, a town south of Solo, had broken up several performances in > > > the area. > > > > > > "A bunch of youths calling themselves Laskar Jihad [warriors of jihad] > > > attacked a wayang performance taking place in Sembung Wetan village in > > > Sukoharjo on Saturday night," he said. > > > > > > "They threatened members of the audience and forced them to disperse. "We > > > strongly condemn this violence," he added. > > > > > > Gundono said he only recently learned about the incident from fellow > > > wayang practitioners who were afraid to report it to police. > > > > > > "We have decided to take a united stand to protect the arts and culture > > > against violent acts by any group," he said, adding people should not be > > > afraid to hold future performances. > > > > > > Joko Ngadimin, founder of Sekarjagad, a wayang and gamelan music troupe, > > > said several similar attacks had occurred before. > > > > > > "The latest incident on Saturday happened near my house," he told the > > > Globe. > > > > > > "Two people were injured and the performance was forced to stop. The > > > attackers from Laskar Jihad were throwing rocks and brandishing swords." > > > > > > He added the attackers all wore turbans and kept yelling " Allahu Akbar! > > > " ("God is great!") while running amok. > > > > > > Joko said the attacks were usually carried out during smaller weekend > > > performances. > > > > > > "These rioters only seem to disrupt wayang performances on the weekend," > > > he said. "But they haven't dared break up any by a senior dalang." > > > > > > Saturday's attack took place at the home of Ripto Anto Mulyono, a maker > > > of gamelan instruments in Sembung Wetan village. Ripto had invited dalang > > > Ki Agung Nugraha Sukresna to perform at his house as part of a family > > > celebration. > > > > > > "He asked me to perform there because his son, Rahmat Nugroho, had just > > > passed the test to get into the civil service," Sukresna said. > > > > > > He added none of the performers or musicians had been hurt in the attack. > > > > > > "At first I didn't know who was attacking us because I had been working > > > the wayang behind the screen," he said. "Then, in an instant, the melee > > > moved really close to the screen." > > > > > > Separately, Comr. Sukiryono, chief of detectives at the Sukoharjo Police, > > > said he had not received any reports of Saturday's attack and was unaware > > > of the incident. "However, we'll promptly follow up on this information," > > > he said. > > > > > > Witnesses said the attackers might have been provoked by the fact > > > audience members were drinking alcohol during the shows, which can run > > > from early evening until dawn. > > > > > > Ki Manteb Sudarsono, another world-renowned dalang, condemned the attack > > > and called on all wayang practitioners to stand together in a show of > > > defiance against the attackers. > > > > > > "I've never experienced such an incident, but violence seems to be > > > disrupting our tranquility more and more," he said. > > > > > > "The government and police should act to resolve such cases." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ------------------------------------ Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! 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