Yah yah, bagaimana mau damai?
Misalnya yg ga punya storing kirim pasukan N evangelis, 
bukannya kasih pengertian agar menahan diri. 

Lalu kalau tetangga ngelempar batu, sono mindah pager 
hingga tetangga makin niat lagi ngelemparin batu? 

Btw, nT dan TOA rukun-rukun saja kan?

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, a.wid...@... wrote:
>
> Kalo saya sih, yg penting itu hidup damai...agama seharusnya bisa menjadi 
> peredam amarah...masalah ada yg keluar dan masuk agama itu hal lumrah, jangan 
> dibikin masalah lalu sampai bunuh bunuhan...kalo cuma nyari jeleknya aja, 
> pasti ada, apalagi kalo dibalut dengan kepentingan kelompok, makin runcing 
> deh rasa kebenciannya... Heran aja sekarang ini pemicu konflik justru muncul 
> dari masalah agama...alampun tidak menciptakan mahluk yg sama seragam, justru 
> beragam macam banyak sekali...kita tidak mungkin hidup dalam lingkungan 
> homogen, untuk bisa tentram harus dimulai dari hati masing masing...kata 
> kuncinya menghormati...kalau rasa saling menghormati berjalan baik, pasti 
> damai tentram...mencari cari dan mengungkit2 kesalahan masa lalu tidak akan 
> memberikan progres positif bagi ketentraman hidup...camkanlah, agama itu hal 
> pribadi...jangan dipolitisir dan tidak usah khawatir denga kuantity 
> anggotanya...keluar masuk adalah hal lumrah dan urusan masing2 pribadi...
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "sebuah.kenyataan" <sebuah.kenyat...@...>
> Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 09:15:35 
> To: <proletar@yahoogroups.com>
> Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [proletar] Re: Muslim Hard-Liners in Central Java Attack Shadow 
> Puppet Shows
> 
> Maklum saja, FPI itu isinya preman-preman pengangguran yang diindoktrinisasi 
> oleh Islam sehingga jadinya ya 100% Islam dan 100% preman.
> 
> Gayanya pake sorban putih, celana buntung, jenggotan, teriak histeris 
> Allahuakbar, dengan tingkah laku bajingan. Kalau mereka punya pekerjaan, mana 
> mungkin ikut-ikutan organisasi kampungan macam FPI?
> 
> Lebih hebatnya lagi, perilaku bibit-bibit terorisme macam kayak gini ini yang 
> dibela mati-matian oleh Ndeboost dan Tawangalun. Tapi tidak mengapa, Proletar 
> kita mana seru kalau tidak ada orang-orang seperti Ndeboost dan Tawangalun 
> yang hobi bikin dagelan? 
> 
> Kalau Proletar isinya cuma A.Widura, Ayubyahya, Jasadlelaki, David Silalahi, 
> Jusfiq, Kimhook, Wawan dan Richan Situmorang, bakalan aman-tentram. Nggak ada 
> dagelan, nggak seruuu...!!!
> 
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> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, a.widura@ wrote:
> >
> > Wedewww... segala wayang dimusuhin...yg ngga ngga aja....tu orang and his 
> > gang kayanya minta dikasih daerah suaka supaya bisa hidup sesuai kemauannya 
> > aja...ngga bisa hidup dalam lingkungan heterogen...cuma bikin keributan...
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "Wong" <wong_gendeng05@>
> > Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 08:34:15 
> > To: <proletar@yahoogroups.com>
> > Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [proletar] Re: Muslim Hard-Liners in Central Java Attack Shadow 
> > Puppet Shows
> > 
> > Bajingaan, bangsat, biadab.
> > 
> > Wayang adalah hiburan ketika saya masih kecil, ketika tinggal di kampung 
> > pedalaman, dimanapun jika ada dalang kondang manggung bermain wayang, saya 
> > smepatkan untuk nonton semalaman. Dan wayang tidak punya kesalahan apa2, 
> > kenapa harus di musuhi, dasar kamu Laskar syetan.
> > 
> > mengapa wayang kamu musuhi, apa salahnya wayang? apakah karena agama kamu 
> > yaitu Islam yang menyuruh kamu melakukan pengrusakan wayang. kalo bener 
> > Islam menyuruh kamu untuk melakukan pengrusakan wayang maka saya katakan 
> > bahwa ISLAM ADALAH AGAMA SETAN. ISLAM AGAMA BANGSAT, ISLAM BUKAN AGAMA 
> > UNTUK ORANG BERADAB. dasar laskar jihad Bangsat.
> > 
> > 
> > gak Rahayu
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "sunny" <ambon@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Refleksi :  Kaum garis keras yang menyerang pertunjukan wayang kulit ini 
> > > adalah tidak lain dari  pada orang Jawa, cuma saja  beda dengan orang 
> > > jawa bisa  mereka ini kebanyakan  makan korma  dan shishsi kebab kambing 
> > > gila akibatnya mereka mabuk aroma surgawi gurun pasir.  Today Sidoarjo, 
> > > tomorrow Jokja and Solo? hehehehehehee
> > > 
> > > Lama kelamaan  pasti mereka akan melarang  gamelang, karena dianggap 
> > > membunyikan suara  iblis bin seythan demi memurtadisasikan umat untuk 
> > > dibawa ke neraka. Bukankah sobat-sobat kental mereka  seperti Taliban di 
> > > Pakistan, Afghanistan atau juga Al Shahab di Somalia melarang 
> > > bunyi-bunyian iblis bin seythan? 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/home/muslim-hard-liners-in-central-java-attack-shadow-puppet-shows/401266
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Muslim Hard-Liners in Central Java Attack Shadow Puppet Shows
> > > Candra Malik | October 14, 2010
> > > 
> > > Sukoharjo, Central Java. First it was churches and a minority Islamic 
> > > sect, then the gay community and a former Playboy editor. Now the 
> > > country's much-derided Muslim hard-liners are reportedly targeting one of 
> > > its most beloved icons: Wayang. 
> > > 
> > > Ki Slamet Gundono, a world-renowned dalang (puppet master) for the 
> > > traditional Javanese shadow puppetry, on Wednesday said hard-liners in 
> > > Sukoharjo, a town south of Solo, had broken up several performances in 
> > > the area. 
> > > 
> > > "A bunch of youths calling themselves Laskar Jihad [warriors of jihad] 
> > > attacked a wayang performance taking place in Sembung Wetan village in 
> > > Sukoharjo on Saturday night," he said. 
> > > 
> > > "They threatened members of the audience and forced them to disperse. "We 
> > > strongly condemn this violence," he added. 
> > > 
> > > Gundono said he only recently learned about the incident from fellow 
> > > wayang practitioners who were afraid to report it to police. 
> > > 
> > > "We have decided to take a united stand to protect the arts and culture 
> > > against violent acts by any group," he said, adding people should not be 
> > > afraid to hold future performances. 
> > > 
> > > Joko Ngadimin, founder of Sekarjagad, a wayang and gamelan music troupe, 
> > > said several similar attacks had occurred before. 
> > > 
> > > "The latest incident on Saturday happened near my house," he told the 
> > > Globe. 
> > > 
> > > "Two people were injured and the performance was forced to stop. The 
> > > attackers from Laskar Jihad were throwing rocks and brandishing swords." 
> > > 
> > > He added the attackers all wore turbans and kept yelling " Allahu Akbar! 
> > > " ("God is great!") while running amok. 
> > > 
> > > Joko said the attacks were usually carried out during smaller weekend 
> > > performances. 
> > > 
> > > "These rioters only seem to disrupt wayang performances on the weekend," 
> > > he said. "But they haven't dared break up any by a senior dalang." 
> > > 
> > > Saturday's attack took place at the home of Ripto Anto Mulyono, a maker 
> > > of gamelan instruments in Sembung Wetan village. Ripto had invited dalang 
> > > Ki Agung Nugraha Sukresna to perform at his house as part of a family 
> > > celebration. 
> > > 
> > > "He asked me to perform there because his son, Rahmat Nugroho, had just 
> > > passed the test to get into the civil service," Sukresna said. 
> > > 
> > > He added none of the performers or musicians had been hurt in the attack. 
> > > 
> > > "At first I didn't know who was attacking us because I had been working 
> > > the wayang behind the screen," he said. "Then, in an instant, the melee 
> > > moved really close to the screen." 
> > > 
> > > Separately, Comr. Sukiryono, chief of detectives at the Sukoharjo Police, 
> > > said he had not received any reports of Saturday's attack and was unaware 
> > > of the incident. "However, we'll promptly follow up on this information," 
> > > he said. 
> > > 
> > > Witnesses said the attackers might have been provoked by the fact 
> > > audience members were drinking alcohol during the shows, which can run 
> > > from early evening until dawn. 
> > > 
> > > Ki Manteb Sudarsono, another world-renowned dalang, condemned the attack 
> > > and called on all wayang practitioners to stand together in a show of 
> > > defiance against the attackers. 
> > > 
> > > "I've never experienced such an incident, but violence seems to be 
> > > disrupting our tranquility more and more," he said. 
> > > 
> > > "The government and police should act to resolve such cases."
> > > 
> > > 
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