"...Semua orang berpikir untuk mengubah dunia.. Tapi tak satupun berpikir untuk merubah dirinya sendiri... " Leo Tolstoy sejaman Stalin ga? Tuaan Leo ya? Stalin mengorbankan 20.000.000 rakyatnya sendiri yasng non Rusia. Leo saja yang sesama jenis dengan Stalin "ajarannya" memble. Atau Stalin ga (mau) tahu tentang Leo?
--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, a.wid...@... wrote: > > Nih buat yg doyan perang, jihad dsb... > > Leo Tolstoy > â"⺠Semua orang berpikir untuk mengubah dunia.. Tapi tak satupun berpikir untuk merubah dirinya sendiri... > > -----Original Message----- > From: "ndeboost" rambitese...@... > Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com > Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 11:17:15 > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com > Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [proletar] Re: Muslim Hard-Liners in Central Java Attack Shadow Puppet Shows > > Yah yah, bagaimana mau damai? > Misalnya yg ga punya storing kirim pasukan N evangelis, > bukannya kasih pengertian agar menahan diri. > > Lalu kalau tetangga ngelempar batu, sono mindah pager > hingga tetangga makin niat lagi ngelemparin batu? > > Btw, nT dan TOA rukun-rukun saja kan? > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, a.widura@ wrote: > > > > Kalo saya sih, yg penting itu hidup damai...agama seharusnya bisa menjadi peredam amarah...masalah ada yg keluar dan masuk agama itu hal lumrah, jangan dibikin masalah lalu sampai bunuh bunuhan...kalo cuma nyari jeleknya aja, pasti ada, apalagi kalo dibalut dengan kepentingan kelompok, makin runcing deh rasa kebenciannya... Heran aja sekarang ini pemicu konflik justru muncul dari masalah agama...alampun tidak menciptakan mahluk yg sama seragam, justru beragam macam banyak sekali...kita tidak mungkin hidup dalam lingkungan homogen, untuk bisa tentram harus dimulai dari hati masing masing...kata kuncinya menghormati...kalau rasa saling menghormati berjalan baik, pasti damai tentram...mencari cari dan mengungkit2 kesalahan masa lalu tidak akan memberikan progres positif bagi ketentraman hidup...camkanlah, agama itu hal pribadi...jangan dipolitisir dan tidak usah khawatir denga kuantity anggotanya...keluar masuk adalah hal lumrah dan urusan masing2 pribadi... > > -----Original Message----- > > From: "sebuah.kenyataan" sebuah.kenyataan@ > > Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com > > Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 09:15:35 > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com > > Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [proletar] Re: Muslim Hard-Liners in Central Java Attack Shadow Puppet Shows > > > > Maklum saja, FPI itu isinya preman-preman pengangguran yang diindoktrinisasi oleh Islam sehingga jadinya ya 100% Islam dan 100% preman. > > > > Gayanya pake sorban putih, celana buntung, jenggotan, teriak histeris Allahuakbar, dengan tingkah laku bajingan. Kalau mereka punya pekerjaan, mana mungkin ikut-ikutan organisasi kampungan macam FPI? > > > > Lebih hebatnya lagi, perilaku bibit-bibit terorisme macam kayak gini ini yang dibela mati-matian oleh Ndeboost dan Tawangalun. Tapi tidak mengapa, Proletar kita mana seru kalau tidak ada orang-orang seperti Ndeboost dan Tawangalun yang hobi bikin dagelan? > > > > Kalau Proletar isinya cuma A.Widura, Ayubyahya, Jasadlelaki, David Silalahi, Jusfiq, Kimhook, Wawan dan Richan Situmorang, bakalan aman-tentram. Nggak ada dagelan, nggak seruuu...!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, a.widura@ wrote: > > > > > > Wedewww... segala wayang dimusuhin...yg ngga ngga aja....tu orang and his gang kayanya minta dikasih daerah suaka supaya bisa hidup sesuai kemauannya aja...ngga bisa hidup dalam lingkungan heterogen...cuma bikin keributan... > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: "Wong" <wong_gendeng05@> > > > Sender: proletar@yahoogroups.com > > > Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 08:34:15 > > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com > > > Reply-To: proletar@yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: [proletar] Re: Muslim Hard-Liners in Central Java Attack Shadow Puppet Shows > > > > > > Bajingaan, bangsat, biadab. > > > > > > Wayang adalah hiburan ketika saya masih kecil, ketika tinggal di kampung pedalaman, dimanapun jika ada dalang kondang manggung bermain wayang, saya smepatkan untuk nonton semalaman. Dan wayang tidak punya kesalahan apa2, kenapa harus di musuhi, dasar kamu Laskar syetan. > > > > > > mengapa wayang kamu musuhi, apa salahnya wayang? apakah karena agama kamu yaitu Islam yang menyuruh kamu melakukan pengrusakan wayang. kalo bener Islam menyuruh kamu untuk melakukan pengrusakan wayang maka saya katakan bahwa ISLAM ADALAH AGAMA SETAN. ISLAM AGAMA BANGSAT, ISLAM BUKAN AGAMA UNTUK ORANG BERADAB. dasar laskar jihad Bangsat. > > > > > > > > > gak Rahayu > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "sunny" <ambon@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Refleksi : Kaum garis keras yang menyerang pertunjukan wayang kulit ini adalah tidak lain dari pada orang Jawa, cuma saja beda dengan orang jawa bisa mereka ini kebanyakan makan korma dan shishsi kebab kambing gila akibatnya mereka mabuk aroma surgawi gurun pasir. Today Sidoarjo, tomorrow Jokja and Solo? hehehehehehee > > > > > > > > Lama kelamaan pasti mereka akan melarang gamelang, karena dianggap membunyikan suara iblis bin seythan demi memurtadisasikan umat untuk dibawa ke neraka. Bukankah sobat-sobat kental mereka seperti Taliban di Pakistan, Afghanistan atau juga Al Shahab di Somalia melarang bunyi-bunyian iblis bin seythan? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/home/muslim-hard-liners-in-central-java-a\ ttack-shadow-puppet-shows/401266 > > > > > > > > > > > > Muslim Hard-Liners in Central Java Attack Shadow Puppet Shows > > > > Candra Malik | October 14, 2010 > > > > > > > > Sukoharjo, Central Java. First it was churches and a minority Islamic sect, then the gay community and a former Playboy editor. Now the country's much-derided Muslim hard-liners are reportedly targeting one of its most beloved icons: Wayang. > > > > > > > > Ki Slamet Gundono, a world-renowned dalang (puppet master) for the traditional Javanese shadow puppetry, on Wednesday said hard-liners in Sukoharjo, a town south of Solo, had broken up several performances in the area. > > > > > > > > "A bunch of youths calling themselves Laskar Jihad [warriors of jihad] attacked a wayang performance taking place in Sembung Wetan village in Sukoharjo on Saturday night," he said. > > > > > > > > "They threatened members of the audience and forced them to disperse. "We strongly condemn this violence," he added. > > > > > > > > Gundono said he only recently learned about the incident from fellow wayang practitioners who were afraid to report it to police. > > > > > > > > "We have decided to take a united stand to protect the arts and culture against violent acts by any group," he said, adding people should not be afraid to hold future performances. > > > > > > > > Joko Ngadimin, founder of Sekarjagad, a wayang and gamelan music troupe, said several similar attacks had occurred before. > > > > > > > > "The latest incident on Saturday happened near my house," he told the Globe. > > > > > > > > "Two people were injured and the performance was forced to stop. The attackers from Laskar Jihad were throwing rocks and brandishing swords." > > > > > > > > He added the attackers all wore turbans and kept yelling " Allahu Akbar! " ("God is great!") while running amok. > > > > > > > > Joko said the attacks were usually carried out during smaller weekend performances. > > > > > > > > "These rioters only seem to disrupt wayang performances on the weekend," he said. "But they haven't dared break up any by a senior dalang." > > > > > > > > Saturday's attack took place at the home of Ripto Anto Mulyono, a maker of gamelan instruments in Sembung Wetan village. Ripto had invited dalang Ki Agung Nugraha Sukresna to perform at his house as part of a family celebration. > > > > > > > > "He asked me to perform there because his son, Rahmat Nugroho, had just passed the test to get into the civil service," Sukresna said. > > > > > > > > He added none of the performers or musicians had been hurt in the attack. > > > > > > > > "At first I didn't know who was attacking us because I had been working the wayang behind the screen," he said. "Then, in an instant, the melee moved really close to the screen." > > > > > > > > Separately, Comr. Sukiryono, chief of detectives at the Sukoharjo Police, said he had not received any reports of Saturday's attack and was unaware of the incident. "However, we'll promptly follow up on this information," he said. > > > > > > > > Witnesses said the attackers might have been provoked by the fact audience members were drinking alcohol during the shows, which can run from early evening until dawn. > > > > > > > > Ki Manteb Sudarsono, another world-renowned dalang, condemned the attack and called on all wayang practitioners to stand together in a show of defiance against the attackers. > > > > > > > > "I've never experienced such an incident, but violence seems to be disrupting our tranquility more and more," he said. > > > > > > > > "The government and police should act to resolve such cases." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ------------------------------------ Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! 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