Ensiklopedia Katholik bahwa Maria (ibunda Yesus) yang diduga
berusia sekitar 12-14 tahun telah dinikahi oleh Yusuf (Joseph)Tukang Kayu
yang
diduga telah berusia 90 tahun!

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On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Tawangalun <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Inilah sumbernya :
>
> Ensiklopedia Katholik bahwa Maria (ibunda Yesus) yang diduga
> berusia sekitar 12-14 tahun telah dinikahi oleh Yusuf (Joseph)Tukang Kayu
> yang
> diduga telah berusia 90 tahun!
> Ensiklopedia Katholik
> Online : http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08504a.htm
> Mary, then twelve to fourteen years of age. Joseph, who was at the time
> ninety
> years old, went up to Jerusalem among the candidates…that St. Joseph was an
> old
> man at the time of marriage with the Mother of God.
> Terjemahan.
> "Maria, kemudian berumur 12 hingga 14 tahun, Yusuf, yang pada waktu itu
> sedang
> berumur 90 tahun, pergi ke Yerusalem diantara kandidat-kandidat….. bahwa
> St.
> Yusuf adalah seorang lelaki tua pada waktu menikahi ibunya Tuhan."
> Dalam Injil Perjanjian Baru memang dikatakan bahwa Yusuf tidak berhubungan
> badan
> dengan Maria ketika ia mengandung Yesus dan Yesus bukan benih dari Yusuf.
> Tetapi
> mengenai masalah persetubuhan ini Injil Matius menyatakan :
> Injil Matius 1:24-25 TB
> "Sesudah bangun dari tidurnya, Yusuf berbuat seperti yang diperintahkan
> malaikat
> Tuhan itu kepadanya. Ia mengambil Maria sebagai isterinya, tetapi tidak
> bersetubuh dengan dia sampai ia melahirkan anaknya laki-laki dan Yusuf
> menamakan
> Dia Yesus".
> Jadi menurut Injil Matius, Yusuf tidak bersetubuh dengan dia sampai Yesus
> lahir.
> Seandainya Injil Matius hendak menyatakan kepada kita mengenai persetubuhan
> Yusuf-Maria itu tidak pernah ada selama masa hidup mereka, maka Injil
> Matiua
> akan mengatakan :
> "dan ia tidak pernah bersetubuh dengan dia" atau "dan ia sama sekali tidak
> pernah bersetubuh dengan dia".
> Bukan :
> "tetapi tidak bersetubuh dengan dia sampai ia melahirkan" (Matius 1:25).
> Jadi menurut Injil Matius 1:25, Yusuf hanya tidak bersetubuh dengan Maria
> saat
> ia hamil. Atau dengan kata lain, Yusuf bersetubuh setelah Maria melahirkan
> Yesus, yang artinya Yusuf bersetubuh dengan seorang wanita berusia 13-15
> tahun.
> Jika Ekstrimis Kristen menyatakan kriteria pedofilia adalah berhubungan
> seks
> dengan pasangan dibawah usia 17 tahun artinya pasangan suci ini
> (sebagaimana
> kepercayaan kristen) telah menjalin dan melakukan hubungan pedofilia.
> Selain itu, kita dapat pula menyimpulkan bahwa tidak ada batasan umur
> pernikahan
> dalam literatur kitab suci Kristen sekalipun, contohnya adalah Maria yang
> dinikahi Yusuf pada usia 12-14 tahun.
> Sumber:
> History of Joseph the Carpenter
> 3. Now when righteous Joseph became a widower, my mother Mary,
> blessed,holy, and
> pure, was already twelve years old. For her parents offered her
> in the temple when she was three years of age, and she remained in the
> temple of
> the Lord nine years. Then when the priests saw that the virgin, holy and
> God-fearing, was growing up, they spoke to each other, saying: Let us
> search out
> a man, righteous and pious, to whom Mary may be entrusted until the time of
> her
> marriage; lest, if she remain in the temple, it happen to her as is wont to
> happen to women, and lest on that account we sin, and God be angry with us.
> 4. Therefore they immediately sent out, and assembled twelve old men of the
> tribe of Judah. And they wrote down the names of the twelve tribes of
> Israel. And the lot fell upon the pious old man, righteous Joseph. Then the
> priests answered, and said to my blessed mother: Go with Joseph, and be
> with him
> till the time of your marriage. Righteous Joseph therefore received my
> mother,
> and led her away to his own house. And Mary found James the Less in his
> father's
> house, broken-hearted and sad on account of the loss of his mother, and she
> brought him up. Hence Mary was called the mother of James.[1] Thereafter
> Joseph
> left her at home, and went away to the shop where he wrought at his trade
> of a
> carpenter. And after the holy virgin had spent two years in his house her
> age
> was exactly fourteen years, including the time at which he received her.
> Sumber:
> THE GOSPEL OF THE NATIVITY OF MARY
> CHAP. 8.–Now there was among the rest Joseph, of the house and family of
> David,
> a man of great age: and when all brought there rods, according to the
> order, he
> alone withheld his. Wherefore, when nothing in conformity with the divine
> voice
> appeared, the high priest thought it necessary to consult God a second
> time; and
> He answered, that of those who had been designated, he alone to whom the
> virgin
> ought to be espoused had not brought his rod. Joseph, therefore, was found
> out.
> For when he had brought his rod, and the dove came from heaven; and settled
> upon
> the top of it, it clearly appeared to all that he was the man to whom the
> virgin
> should be espoused. Therefore, the usual ceremonies of betrothal having
> been
> gone through, he went back to the city of Bethlehem to put his house in
> order,
> and to procure things necessary for the marriage. But Mary, the virgin of
> the
> Lord, with seven other virgins of her own age, and who had been weaned at
> the
> same time, whom she had received from the priest, returned to the house of
> her
> parents in Galilee.
> Sumber:
> Injil James
> VIII. 1 And her parents gat them down marveling, and praising the Lord God
> because tile child was not turned away backward.
> And Mary was in the temple of the Lord as a dove that is nurtured: and she
> received food from the hand of an angel.
> 2 And when she was twelve years old, there was a council of the priests,
> saying:
> Behold Mary is become twelve years old in the temple of the Lord. What then
> shall we do with her ? lest she pollute the sanctuary of the Lord. And they
> said
> unto the high priest: Thou standest over the altar of the Lord. Enter in
> and
> pray concerning her: And whatsoever the Lord shall reveal to thee, that let
> us
> do.
> 3 And the high priest took the vestment with the twelve bells and went in
> unto
> the Holy of Holies and prayed concerning her. And lo, an angel of tile Lord
> appeared saying unto him: Zacharias, Zacharias~ go forth and assemble them
> that
> are widowers of the people, and let them bring every man a rod, and to
> whomsoever the Lord shall show a sign, his wife shall she be. And the
> heralds
> went forth over all the country round about Judaea, and the trumpet of the
> Lord
> sounded, and all men ran thereto.
> IX. 1 And Joseph cast down his adze and ran to meet them, and when they
> were
> gathered together they went to the high priest and took their rods with
> them.
> And he took the rods of them all and went into the temple and prayed. And
> when
> he had finished the prayer he took the rods and went forth and gave them
> back to
> them: and there was no sign upon them. But Joseph received the last rod:
> and 1o,
> a dove came forth of the rod and flew upon the bead of Joseph. And the
> priest
> said unto Joseph: Unto thee hath it fallen to take the virgin of the Lord
> and
> keep her for thyself. 2 And Joseph refused, saying: I have sons, and I am
> an old
> man, but she is a girl: lest I became a laughing-stock to the children of
> Israel. And the priest said unto Joseph: Year the Lord thy God, and
> remember
> what things God did unto Dathan and Abiram and Korah, how the earth clave
> and
> they were swallowed up because of their gainsaying. And now fear thou,
> Joseph,
> lest it be so in thine house. And Joseph was afraid, and took her to keep
> her
> for himself. And Joseph said unto Mary: Lo, I have received thee out of the
> temple of the Lord: and now do I leave thee in my house, and I go away to
> build
> my buildings and I will come again unto thee. The Lord shall watch over
> thee.
> Daftar Pustaka :
> - http://www.answering-christianity.com/age_of_mary.htm
> - Ensiklopedia Katholik newadvent.org
> Catatan:
> Saya membaca artikel Age of Mary when she had Jesus, dimana artikel tsb
> merujuk
> Enskiklopedia Katholik dengan alamat
> http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15464b.htm.
> Tetapi setelah saya cek, tampaknya Kristen `gerah' sehingga mereka
> merubahnya.
> Dan kini saya masih menemukan pernyataan tsb di
> http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08504a.htm . Saya harap Kristen tidak
> merevisi
> kalimat tsb.
> Baca Juga:
>
> http://datakristen.blogspot.com/2007/09/pedofilia-balita-dan-teror-bible.html
>
> http://datakristen.blogspot.com/2007/09/apakah-yusuf-suami-maria-pedofilia.html
>
> Shalom,
> Tawangalun.
> N.B.Kasihan bener Maria itu dapat suami wis tikluk tikluk 90 th.
>
> --- In [email protected] <proletar%40yahoogroups.com>, Richan S
> <richansitumorang@...> wrote:
> >
> > "Maria juga kan Dia dikawin kakek tua 90 th bernama Yusuf ketika masih
> > 14 th."
> >
> > dalilnya mana, jangan ngarang terus..! enggak bosan kah?
> >
> > rs
>
> >
> > On 1/14/2011 6:14 AM, Tawangalun wrote:
> > >
> > > Pertama data Grepe fitnah,hadis menyebutkan Nabi serumah dg Aisyah
> > > ketika 9 th.Aturan Islam jelas hubungan suami istri syaratnya kalau
> > > M.Jadi baik nurut Islam maupun Alkitab Nabi gak melanggar.Saya akui
> > > memang nglanggar KUHP,tapi Maria juga kan Dia dikawin kakaek tua 90 th
> > > bernama Yusuf ketika masih 14 th.Jadi baik Aisyah atau Maria hanya
> > > nglanggar KUHP.
> > > Jadi jawabnya Nabi mengawini Aisyah baik sebagai manusia ataupun nabi
> > > rapopo gak janggal.Jadi Grepe masih perlu njawab Yesus ketika disalib
> > > sebagai Tuhan opo uwong? masih ada kejanggalan yg perlu dijawab.
> > >
> > > Shalom,
> > > Tawangalun.
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected] <proletar%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
> proletar%40yahoogroups.com <proletar%2540yahoogroups.com>>,
> > > "great.pretender2000" <great.pretender2000@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Muhammad itu utusan Qwloh yang pedofil, 6 thn gadis di embat, buta
> > > huruf sih
> > > > buta huruf, tapi mata-nya celak liat belahan daging mengkal...
> > > >
> > > > gp
> > > >
> > > > 2010/11/8 David Silalahi <davidfr766hi@>
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ngawur.
> > > > > yang lebih banyak meributkan itu justru atheis.
> > > > > coba lihat saja website faithfreedom, disitu semua mayoritas berisi
> > > > > atheis yang mempersoalkan pedofilia.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 11/7/10, ndeboost <rambitesemak@<rambitesemak%40rocketmail.com
> >>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Rasanya umat Islam ga meributkan masalah pernikahan ini namun
> diluar
> > > > > > Islam terutama Kristen. Mereka ini (Kristen) rajin sekali
> memaparkan
> > > > > > masalah pernikahan ini dan ga ada jemunya meski sdh kita respon.
> > > Dasar
> > > > > > yang dipakai adalah terutama etika (yg setiap zaman bergeser)
> > > terutama
> > > > > > pedofil, bukan dari kitab yang mereka imani. Kita melihatnya
> > > dari dosa
> > > > > > atau ga dosa, yang (mestinya) abadi, ga ngaruh zaman.
> Accordingly,
> > > > > > Pak@Hardja N nDeboost "terpaksa" mereferensikan apa KATEBE.
> > > > > > Kalau melakukan sesuatu namun bukan dusta maupun dosa, mengapa
> > > > > > dikritik bin disalah-salahkan?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In [email protected] <proletar%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:proletar%40yahoogroups.com <proletar%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> <proletar%40yahoogroups.com>, ayub
> > > yahya
> > > > > <ayubyahya@> wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> tawang udah ganti nickname koq makin kalut ??..kirain udah
> ketemu
> > > > > > hidayah...
> > > > > >> ntu urusan Aisyah .. koq referensinya Alkitab ??
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> gimana nih wang... pindah klenik ??
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> --- On Sat, 11/6/10, hardjantosri hardjantosri@ wrote:
> > > > > >>
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> > > > > >> Aisyah 6 th dikawin lalu digauli pada saat M itu nurut Alkitab
> > > > > > gak dilarang,jadi cuman kamu yg nglarang.
> > > > > >>
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> > > > > >> S.Har.
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> > > > >
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