Ensiklopedia Katholik bahwa Maria (ibunda Yesus) yang diduga berusia sekitar 12-14 tahun telah dinikahi oleh Yusuf (Joseph)Tukang Kayu yang diduga telah berusia 90 tahun!
=== MASIH DI DUGA :: WAKAKAKAK GP On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Tawangalun <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Inilah sumbernya : > > Ensiklopedia Katholik bahwa Maria (ibunda Yesus) yang diduga > berusia sekitar 12-14 tahun telah dinikahi oleh Yusuf (Joseph)Tukang Kayu > yang > diduga telah berusia 90 tahun! > Ensiklopedia Katholik > Online : http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08504a.htm > Mary, then twelve to fourteen years of age. Joseph, who was at the time > ninety > years old, went up to Jerusalem among the candidates that St. Joseph was an > old > man at the time of marriage with the Mother of God. > Terjemahan. > "Maria, kemudian berumur 12 hingga 14 tahun, Yusuf, yang pada waktu itu > sedang > berumur 90 tahun, pergi ke Yerusalem diantara kandidat-kandidat .. bahwa > St. > Yusuf adalah seorang lelaki tua pada waktu menikahi ibunya Tuhan." > Dalam Injil Perjanjian Baru memang dikatakan bahwa Yusuf tidak berhubungan > badan > dengan Maria ketika ia mengandung Yesus dan Yesus bukan benih dari Yusuf. > Tetapi > mengenai masalah persetubuhan ini Injil Matius menyatakan : > Injil Matius 1:24-25 TB > "Sesudah bangun dari tidurnya, Yusuf berbuat seperti yang diperintahkan > malaikat > Tuhan itu kepadanya. Ia mengambil Maria sebagai isterinya, tetapi tidak > bersetubuh dengan dia sampai ia melahirkan anaknya laki-laki dan Yusuf > menamakan > Dia Yesus". > Jadi menurut Injil Matius, Yusuf tidak bersetubuh dengan dia sampai Yesus > lahir. > Seandainya Injil Matius hendak menyatakan kepada kita mengenai persetubuhan > Yusuf-Maria itu tidak pernah ada selama masa hidup mereka, maka Injil > Matiua > akan mengatakan : > "dan ia tidak pernah bersetubuh dengan dia" atau "dan ia sama sekali tidak > pernah bersetubuh dengan dia". > Bukan : > "tetapi tidak bersetubuh dengan dia sampai ia melahirkan" (Matius 1:25). > Jadi menurut Injil Matius 1:25, Yusuf hanya tidak bersetubuh dengan Maria > saat > ia hamil. Atau dengan kata lain, Yusuf bersetubuh setelah Maria melahirkan > Yesus, yang artinya Yusuf bersetubuh dengan seorang wanita berusia 13-15 > tahun. > Jika Ekstrimis Kristen menyatakan kriteria pedofilia adalah berhubungan > seks > dengan pasangan dibawah usia 17 tahun artinya pasangan suci ini > (sebagaimana > kepercayaan kristen) telah menjalin dan melakukan hubungan pedofilia. > Selain itu, kita dapat pula menyimpulkan bahwa tidak ada batasan umur > pernikahan > dalam literatur kitab suci Kristen sekalipun, contohnya adalah Maria yang > dinikahi Yusuf pada usia 12-14 tahun. > Sumber: > History of Joseph the Carpenter > 3. Now when righteous Joseph became a widower, my mother Mary, > blessed,holy, and > pure, was already twelve years old. For her parents offered her > in the temple when she was three years of age, and she remained in the > temple of > the Lord nine years. Then when the priests saw that the virgin, holy and > God-fearing, was growing up, they spoke to each other, saying: Let us > search out > a man, righteous and pious, to whom Mary may be entrusted until the time of > her > marriage; lest, if she remain in the temple, it happen to her as is wont to > happen to women, and lest on that account we sin, and God be angry with us. > 4. Therefore they immediately sent out, and assembled twelve old men of the > tribe of Judah. And they wrote down the names of the twelve tribes of > Israel. And the lot fell upon the pious old man, righteous Joseph. Then the > priests answered, and said to my blessed mother: Go with Joseph, and be > with him > till the time of your marriage. Righteous Joseph therefore received my > mother, > and led her away to his own house. And Mary found James the Less in his > father's > house, broken-hearted and sad on account of the loss of his mother, and she > brought him up. Hence Mary was called the mother of James.[1] Thereafter > Joseph > left her at home, and went away to the shop where he wrought at his trade > of a > carpenter. And after the holy virgin had spent two years in his house her > age > was exactly fourteen years, including the time at which he received her. > Sumber: > THE GOSPEL OF THE NATIVITY OF MARY > CHAP. 8.Now there was among the rest Joseph, of the house and family of > David, > a man of great age: and when all brought there rods, according to the > order, he > alone withheld his. Wherefore, when nothing in conformity with the divine > voice > appeared, the high priest thought it necessary to consult God a second > time; and > He answered, that of those who had been designated, he alone to whom the > virgin > ought to be espoused had not brought his rod. Joseph, therefore, was found > out. > For when he had brought his rod, and the dove came from heaven; and settled > upon > the top of it, it clearly appeared to all that he was the man to whom the > virgin > should be espoused. Therefore, the usual ceremonies of betrothal having > been > gone through, he went back to the city of Bethlehem to put his house in > order, > and to procure things necessary for the marriage. But Mary, the virgin of > the > Lord, with seven other virgins of her own age, and who had been weaned at > the > same time, whom she had received from the priest, returned to the house of > her > parents in Galilee. > Sumber: > Injil James > VIII. 1 And her parents gat them down marveling, and praising the Lord God > because tile child was not turned away backward. > And Mary was in the temple of the Lord as a dove that is nurtured: and she > received food from the hand of an angel. > 2 And when she was twelve years old, there was a council of the priests, > saying: > Behold Mary is become twelve years old in the temple of the Lord. What then > shall we do with her ? lest she pollute the sanctuary of the Lord. And they > said > unto the high priest: Thou standest over the altar of the Lord. Enter in > and > pray concerning her: And whatsoever the Lord shall reveal to thee, that let > us > do. > 3 And the high priest took the vestment with the twelve bells and went in > unto > the Holy of Holies and prayed concerning her. And lo, an angel of tile Lord > appeared saying unto him: Zacharias, Zacharias~ go forth and assemble them > that > are widowers of the people, and let them bring every man a rod, and to > whomsoever the Lord shall show a sign, his wife shall she be. And the > heralds > went forth over all the country round about Judaea, and the trumpet of the > Lord > sounded, and all men ran thereto. > IX. 1 And Joseph cast down his adze and ran to meet them, and when they > were > gathered together they went to the high priest and took their rods with > them. > And he took the rods of them all and went into the temple and prayed. And > when > he had finished the prayer he took the rods and went forth and gave them > back to > them: and there was no sign upon them. But Joseph received the last rod: > and 1o, > a dove came forth of the rod and flew upon the bead of Joseph. And the > priest > said unto Joseph: Unto thee hath it fallen to take the virgin of the Lord > and > keep her for thyself. 2 And Joseph refused, saying: I have sons, and I am > an old > man, but she is a girl: lest I became a laughing-stock to the children of > Israel. And the priest said unto Joseph: Year the Lord thy God, and > remember > what things God did unto Dathan and Abiram and Korah, how the earth clave > and > they were swallowed up because of their gainsaying. And now fear thou, > Joseph, > lest it be so in thine house. And Joseph was afraid, and took her to keep > her > for himself. And Joseph said unto Mary: Lo, I have received thee out of the > temple of the Lord: and now do I leave thee in my house, and I go away to > build > my buildings and I will come again unto thee. The Lord shall watch over > thee. > Daftar Pustaka : > - http://www.answering-christianity.com/age_of_mary.htm > - Ensiklopedia Katholik newadvent.org > Catatan: > Saya membaca artikel Age of Mary when she had Jesus, dimana artikel tsb > merujuk > Enskiklopedia Katholik dengan alamat > http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15464b.htm. > Tetapi setelah saya cek, tampaknya Kristen `gerah' sehingga mereka > merubahnya. > Dan kini saya masih menemukan pernyataan tsb di > http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08504a.htm . Saya harap Kristen tidak > merevisi > kalimat tsb. > Baca Juga: > > http://datakristen.blogspot.com/2007/09/pedofilia-balita-dan-teror-bible.html > > http://datakristen.blogspot.com/2007/09/apakah-yusuf-suami-maria-pedofilia.html > > Shalom, > Tawangalun. > N.B.Kasihan bener Maria itu dapat suami wis tikluk tikluk 90 th. > > --- In [email protected] <proletar%40yahoogroups.com>, Richan S > <richansitumorang@...> wrote: > > > > "Maria juga kan Dia dikawin kakek tua 90 th bernama Yusuf ketika masih > > 14 th." > > > > dalilnya mana, jangan ngarang terus..! enggak bosan kah? > > > > rs > > > > > On 1/14/2011 6:14 AM, Tawangalun wrote: > > > > > > Pertama data Grepe fitnah,hadis menyebutkan Nabi serumah dg Aisyah > > > ketika 9 th.Aturan Islam jelas hubungan suami istri syaratnya kalau > > > M.Jadi baik nurut Islam maupun Alkitab Nabi gak melanggar.Saya akui > > > memang nglanggar KUHP,tapi Maria juga kan Dia dikawin kakaek tua 90 th > > > bernama Yusuf ketika masih 14 th.Jadi baik Aisyah atau Maria hanya > > > nglanggar KUHP. > > > Jadi jawabnya Nabi mengawini Aisyah baik sebagai manusia ataupun nabi > > > rapopo gak janggal.Jadi Grepe masih perlu njawab Yesus ketika disalib > > > sebagai Tuhan opo uwong? masih ada kejanggalan yg perlu dijawab. > > > > > > Shalom, > > > Tawangalun. > > > > > > --- In [email protected] <proletar%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto: > proletar%40yahoogroups.com <proletar%2540yahoogroups.com>>, > > > "great.pretender2000" <great.pretender2000@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Muhammad itu utusan Qwloh yang pedofil, 6 thn gadis di embat, buta > > > huruf sih > > > > buta huruf, tapi mata-nya celak liat belahan daging mengkal... > > > > > > > > gp > > > > > > > > 2010/11/8 David Silalahi <davidfr766hi@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ngawur. > > > > > yang lebih banyak meributkan itu justru atheis. > > > > > coba lihat saja website faithfreedom, disitu semua mayoritas berisi > > > > > atheis yang mempersoalkan pedofilia. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 11/7/10, ndeboost <rambitesemak@<rambitesemak%40rocketmail.com > >> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Rasanya umat Islam ga meributkan masalah pernikahan ini namun > diluar > > > > > > Islam terutama Kristen. Mereka ini (Kristen) rajin sekali > memaparkan > > > > > > masalah pernikahan ini dan ga ada jemunya meski sdh kita respon. > > > Dasar > > > > > > yang dipakai adalah terutama etika (yg setiap zaman bergeser) > > > terutama > > > > > > pedofil, bukan dari kitab yang mereka imani. 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