aelo NGOMONG jelas2 nabi merampok ! Jadi ada sejarahnya ? Ada Bujti2nya > Ada dukungan apa ? atau kau me;ihay sendiri !?
--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu <itemabu@...> wrote: > > Emangnya, apa kapasitas lu buat bisa ngejelasin? Lu ga pake Quran, hadis dan > tafsir sama sekali koq. > > Udah jelas tuh nabi lu ngerampok dan ngebunuh, cuma orang Islam aja yg terus > muter2 lidah ga mau ngaku. > > > Lu ini jg muter2 lidah ga mau ngaku sodara seiman lu ngefitnah di milis ini, > padahal jelas2 ngefitnah. Kalo lu ini punya otak, hrsnya lu ini mikir ttg > diri lu sendiri yg ga mau ngaku sodara seiman lu ngefitnah. Kasus sejelas ini > aja lu ga mau ngaku, lalu gimana lu bisa ngaku ttg kasus yg lebih besar? > > > > > >________________________________ > >From: Abbas <abas_amin08@...> > >To: proletar@yahoogroups.com > >Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 10:42 AM > >Subject: [proletar] Re: Indonesian Government Slams Beheading in Saudi Arabia > > > > > >Â > >Kamu itu goblok ! Tuli atau pura2 gak ngelihat sih !? Kan udah dijelasin > >NABI MUHAMMAD sama sekali tidak MERAMPOK ! kalau kau tetap tuduh itu ! Itu > >artinya FITNAH ! Dan tuduhan sepihak !!! Dan memang pengikut ATHEIS rata2 > >tukang FITNAH ! > >Terutama pembenci Islam ! > > > >--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > >> > >> Hehehe.... orang yg benar2 Islam itu kerjanya ngerampok dan ngebunuh, nabi > >> itu > >> kan orang Islam 100%. Tp si nabi Islam itu kerjanya ngerampok dan ngebunuh. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> From: Abbas <abas_amin08@> > >> To: proletar@yahoogroups.com > >> Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 2:18:22 PM > >> Subject: [proletar] Re: Indonesian Government Slams Beheading in Saudi > >> Arabia > >> > >> > >> Ah ! Jangan BUTA kamu item abu ! orang beragama bukan Islam doang ! Malah > >> yang > >> Atheispun ada ! Justru kalau benar2 Islamnya tak kan mau korupsi ! jadi > >> orang > >> yang sudah keluar dari Islamlah yang banyak melakukan penyelewengan itu ! > >> > >> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > >> > > >> > Yg dpt duit dr tkw itu orang Islam, goblok. Emangnya lu pikir biro > >> > tenaga kerja > >> > > >> > pengirim tkw itu punya non Islam? > >> > > >> > Jg semua biro haji/umroh itu milik orang Islam. Yg dpt duit itu jg dep > >> > agama yg > >> > > >> > Islam, bukan non Islam. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ________________________________ > >> > From: Abbas <abas_amin08@> > >> > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com > >> > Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 10:01:16 AM > >> > Subject: [proletar] Re: Indonesian Government Slams Beheading in Saudi > >> > Arabia > >> > > >> > > >> > TKW bukan urusan ISLAM tapu urusan NKRI ! Kenapa enak bener kau semuanya > >> > ditimpakan ke ISLAM !? > >> > Makanya jelas pengikut DAWKINS adalah semuanya TUKANG FITNAH ! Karena > >> > BENCI > >> > ISLAM bukan karena HAM TAIK Kucing yang mereka gembar gemborkan !! > >> > Memang > >> > Bangsat tyuh anti islam; memang mereka zalim, kejam, sadis, penuh > >> > fitnah, Buas > >> > >> > dan brutal ! > >> > > >> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > >> > > > >> > > Orang Islam gelisahnya itu cuma krn 2 hal, pertama kalo tkw ga boleh > >> > > dikirim > >> > >> > > lagi ke negara Arab, maka orang Islam ga dpt duit lagi hasil malakin > >> > > tkw baik > >> > > >> > >yg > >> > > > >> > > mau pergi maupun yg pulang. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Kedua, kalo Indonesia ngeributin tkw, bisa2 Indonesia dilarang ngirim > >> >kontingen > >> > > >> > > > >> > > haji/umrohnya shg orang Indonesa ga bisa ngecium batu memek item, ga > >> > > bisa > >> > >lari2 > >> > > > >> > > anjing dr satu batu ke batu lain dan ga bisa nimpuk2in batu dgn batu. > >> > > Kan > >> >rugi > >> > > >> > > >> > > besar tuh ga bisa nyiumin batu. > >> > > > >> > > Jadi wajib deh ngejilatin pantat Arab sampe licin mengkilat spy > >> > > terjamin bisa > >> > > >> > > ngeciumin batu memek item. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > ________________________________ > >> > > From: bukan.pedanda <bukan.pedanda@> > >> > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com > >> > > Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 2:55:45 AM > >> > > Subject: [proletar] Re: Indonesian Government Slams Beheading in Saudi > >> Arabia > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Dan ada berapa orang Islam yang dungu-dungu kayak anjing disini yang > >> > >menunjukkan > >> > > > >> > > kegelisahannya membaca berita ini? > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "sunny" <ambon@> wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > Refleksi : Bagus sekali ada yang akan mau protes terhadap pancungan > >> > > > kepala > >> > >> > >TKW > >> > > > >> > > >di Arab Saudia, tetapi apakah tidak terlambat untuk ada gunanya? Ke > >> > > >mana > >> >saja > >> > > >> > > >> > > >MUI? > >> > > > > >> >>>http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/home/indonesian-government-slams-beheading-in-saudi-arabia/447886 > >> >6 > >> > >6 > >> > > >6 > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > Indonesian Government Slams Beheading in Saudi Arabia > >> > > > Ismira Lutfia & Markus Junianto Sihaloho | June 20, 2011 > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > The government says it will issue a formal protest over the > >> > > > execution in > >> > >Saudi > >> > > > >> > > >Arabia of an Indonesian migrant worker convicted of murder, arguing > >> > > >that it > >> > >> > >had > >> > > > >> > > >been in the middle of seeking clemency for her when she was executed. > >> > > > > >> > > > Ruyati Binti Sapubi, a migrant worker from Bekasi, was beheaded by > >> > > > sword in > >> > > >> > >the > >> > > > >> > > >western province of Mecca on Saturday for murdering her female > >> > > >employer, > >> > > >stabbing her repeatedly in the head and neck with a kitchen knife in > >> > > >January > >> > > >> > > >2010. > >> > > > > >> > > > Didi Wahjudi, a representative from the Indonesian consulate in > >> > > > Jeddah, > >> >Saudi > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >Arabia, said neither the consulate nor the embassy in Riyadh had been > >> >informed > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >about the execution. > >> > > > > >> > > > He said the consulate only learned of it through media reports as > >> > > > well as > >> > >from > >> > > > >> > > >members of the Indonesian community in the country. > >> > > > > >> > > > "We were actually in the middle of seeking clemency on behalf of the > >> >victim's > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >family and were conducting other non-litigation efforts," he said. > >> > > > > >> > > > "We are not happy that the execution happened without us being > >> > > > notified." > >> > > > > >> > > > Despite two diplomatic notes asking for consular access to Ruyati, > >> > > > Didi > >> >said > >> > > >> > > >> > > >Saudi authorities kept the embassy out of the loop during her trial. > >> > > > > >> > > > He said Indonesian officials had also tried to meet with her when > >> > > > she > >> > >appeared > >> > > > >> > > >in court. > >> > > > > >> > > > However, he said Ruyati had pleaded guilty to the murder and such > >> > > > crimes > >> >were > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >punishable by death in Saudi Arabia. > >> > > > > >> > > > Meanwhile, the government on Sunday said it condemned the execution > >> > > > and > >> >would > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >formally censure Saudi Arabia's ambassador to Indonesia, saying the > >> > > >Saudi > >> > > >authorities had not allowed it to provide Ruyati with proper consular > >> > > >assistance. > >> > > > > >> > > > "Without disregard to the governing laws in Saudi Arabia, the > >> > > > Indonesian > >> > > >government condemns the execution that was carried out without > >> > > >upholding the > >> > > >> > > >international practice in relation to providing consular protection," > >> >Foreign > >> > > >> > > >> > > >Ministry spokesman Michael Tene said. > >> > > > > >> > > > A ministry press release said the Saudi Arabian ambassador would be > >> > >officially > >> > > > >> > > >summoned so the government could present its case, while the > >> > > >Indonesian > >> > > >ambassador in Riyadh would be recalled to Jakarta "for consultation." > >> > > > > >> > > > Ruyati's daughter, identified only as Evi, told radio station El > >> > > > Shinta > >> >that > >> > > >> > > >> > > >her mother's placement agency had falsified her age, cutting it from > >> > > >54 to > >> >35, > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >so she could qualify to work abroad. > >> > > > > >> > > > Separately, Hikmahanto Juwana, an international law expert at > >> > > > University of > >> > > >> > > >Indonesia, called for a halt to migrant workers being sent to Saudi > >> > > >Arabia. > >> > > > > >> > > > "The withdrawal is necessary to voice the Indonesian government's > >> > > > objection > >> > > >> > >to > >> > > > >> > > >the beheading, and the government is entitled to demand an > >> > > >explanation from > >> > >> > >the > >> > > > >> > > >Saudi authorities about why they failed to inform the embassy there," > >> > > >he > >> >told > >> > > >> > > >> > > >the Jakarta Globe. > >> > > > > >> > > > He said more pressure should also be exerted on Riyadh to take firm > >> > > > legal > >> > > >action against abusive Saudi employers. "Migrant workers do not go > >> > > >abroad to > >> > > >> > > >commit crimes," he said. "If they do commit a crime, it must be > >> > > >because of > >> >the > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >violent treatment they get from their employers." > >> > > > > >> > > > Tjahjo Kumolo, from the Indonesian Democratic Party of Struggle > >> > > > (PDI-P), > >> > >called > >> > > > >> > > >for the ambassador to Saudi Arabia, Gatot Abdullah Mansyur, to be > >> > > >fired over > >> > > >> > >the > >> > > > >> > > >mishandling of the case. > >> > > > > >> > > > "The Foreign Ministry said they did not know about Ruyati's case," > >> > > > he said. > >> > > >> > >"So > >> > > > >> > > >what is the ambassador doing there? 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