Kalo lu ga pake Quran, hadis dan tafsir, lalu gimana lu bisa bilang gua ngefitnah?
>________________________________ >From: Abbas <abas_ami...@yahoo.com> >To: proletar@yahoogroups.com >Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 9:53 AM >Subject: [proletar] Re: Indonesian Government Slams Beheading in Saudi Arabia > > > >Oooo kau jadinya asal bisa ngefitnah Islam saja toh !? > >--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu <itemabu@...> wrote: >> >> Hehehe.... lu ga pake Quran, hadis dan tafsir, koq lu bisa cuap2? >> >> >> >> >> >________________________________ >> >From: abas_amin08 <abas_amin08@...> >> >To: proletar@yahoogroups.com >> >Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 11:20 AM >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Indonesian Government Slams Beheading in Saudi >> >Arabia >> > >> > >> > >> >aelo NGOMONG jelas2 nabi merampok ! Jadi ada sejarahnya ? Ada Bujti2nya > >> >Ada dukungan apa ? atau kau me;ihay sendiri !? >> > >> >--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu <itemabu@> wrote: >> >> >> >> Emangnya, apa kapasitas lu buat bisa ngejelasin? Lu ga pake Quran, hadis >> >> dan tafsir sama sekali koq. >> >> >> >> Udah jelas tuh nabi lu ngerampok dan ngebunuh, cuma orang Islam aja yg >> >> terus muter2 lidah ga mau ngaku. >> >> >> >> >> >> Lu ini jg muter2 lidah ga mau ngaku sodara seiman lu ngefitnah di milis >> >> ini, padahal jelas2 ngefitnah. Kalo lu ini punya otak, hrsnya lu ini >> >> mikir ttg diri lu sendiri yg ga mau ngaku sodara seiman lu ngefitnah. >> >> Kasus sejelas ini aja lu ga mau ngaku, lalu gimana lu bisa ngaku ttg >> >> kasus yg lebih besar? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >________________________________ >> >> >From: Abbas <abas_amin08@> >> >> >To: proletar@yahoogroups.com >> >> >Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 10:42 AM >> >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Indonesian Government Slams Beheading in Saudi >> >> >Arabia >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >Kamu itu goblok ! Tuli atau pura2 gak ngelihat sih !? Kan udah dijelasin >> >> >NABI MUHAMMAD sama sekali tidak MERAMPOK ! kalau kau tetap tuduh itu ! >> >> >Itu artinya FITNAH ! Dan tuduhan sepihak !!! Dan memang pengikut ATHEIS >> >> >rata2 tukang FITNAH ! >> >> >Terutama pembenci Islam ! >> >> > >> >> >--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu <itemabu@> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Hehehe.... orang yg benar2 Islam itu kerjanya ngerampok dan ngebunuh, >> >> >> nabi itu >> >> >> kan orang Islam 100%. Tp si nabi Islam itu kerjanya ngerampok dan >> >> >> ngebunuh. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> >> From: Abbas <abas_amin08@> >> >> >> To: proletar@yahoogroups.com >> >> >> Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 2:18:22 PM >> >> >> Subject: [proletar] Re: Indonesian Government Slams Beheading in Saudi >> >> >> Arabia >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Ah ! Jangan BUTA kamu item abu ! orang beragama bukan Islam doang ! >> >> >> Malah yang >> >> >> Atheispun ada ! Justru kalau benar2 Islamnya tak kan mau korupsi ! >> >> >> jadi orang >> >> >> yang sudah keluar dari Islamlah yang banyak melakukan penyelewengan >> >> >> itu ! >> >> >> >> >> >> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu <itemabu@> wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Yg dpt duit dr tkw itu orang Islam, goblok. Emangnya lu pikir biro >> >> >> > tenaga kerja >> >> >> > >> >> >> > pengirim tkw itu punya non Islam? >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Jg semua biro haji/umroh itu milik orang Islam. Yg dpt duit itu jg >> >> >> > dep agama yg >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Islam, bukan non Islam. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > ________________________________ >> >> >> > From: Abbas <abas_amin08@> >> >> >> > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com >> >> >> > Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 10:01:16 AM >> >> >> > Subject: [proletar] Re: Indonesian Government Slams Beheading in >> >> >> > Saudi Arabia >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > TKW bukan urusan ISLAM tapu urusan NKRI ! Kenapa enak bener kau >> >> >> > semuanya >> >> >> > ditimpakan ke ISLAM !? >> >> >> > Makanya jelas pengikut DAWKINS adalah semuanya TUKANG FITNAH ! >> >> >> > Karena BENCI >> >> >> > ISLAM bukan karena HAM TAIK Kucing yang mereka gembar gemborkan !! >> >> >> > Memang >> >> >> > Bangsat tyuh anti islam; memang mereka zalim, kejam, sadis, penuh >> >> >> > fitnah, Buas >> >> >> >> >> >> > dan brutal ! >> >> >> > >> >> >> > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu <itemabu@> wrote: >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > Orang Islam gelisahnya itu cuma krn 2 hal, pertama kalo tkw ga >> >> >> > > boleh dikirim >> >> >> >> >> >> > > lagi ke negara Arab, maka orang Islam ga dpt duit lagi hasil >> >> >> > > malakin tkw baik >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >yg >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > mau pergi maupun yg pulang. >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > Kedua, kalo Indonesia ngeributin tkw, bisa2 Indonesia dilarang >> >> >> > > ngirim >> >> >> >kontingen >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > haji/umrohnya shg orang Indonesa ga bisa ngecium batu memek item, >> >> >> > > ga bisa >> >> >> > >lari2 >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > anjing dr satu batu ke batu lain dan ga bisa nimpuk2in batu dgn >> >> >> > > batu. Kan >> >> >> >rugi >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > besar tuh ga bisa nyiumin batu. >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > Jadi wajib deh ngejilatin pantat Arab sampe licin mengkilat spy >> >> >> > > terjamin bisa >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > ngeciumin batu memek item. >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > ________________________________ >> >> >> > > From: bukan.pedanda <bukan.pedanda@> >> >> >> > > To: proletar@yahoogroups.com >> >> >> > > Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 2:55:45 AM >> >> >> > > Subject: [proletar] Re: Indonesian Government Slams Beheading in >> >> >> > > Saudi >> >> >> Arabia >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > Dan ada berapa orang Islam yang dungu-dungu kayak anjing disini >> >> >> > > yang >> >> >> > >menunjukkan >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > kegelisahannya membaca berita ini? >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "sunny" <ambon@> wrote: >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > Refleksi : Bagus sekali ada yang akan mau protes terhadap >> >> >> > > > pancungan kepala >> >> >> >> >> >> > >TKW >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >di Arab Saudia, tetapi apakah tidak terlambat untuk ada gunanya? >> >> >> > > >Ke mana >> >> >> >saja >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >MUI? >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >>>http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/home/indonesian-government-slams-beheading-in-saudi-arabia/447886 >> >> >> >6 >> >> >> > >6 >> >> >> > > >6 >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > Indonesian Government Slams Beheading in Saudi Arabia >> >> >> > > > Ismira Lutfia & Markus Junianto Sihaloho | June 20, 2011 >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > The government says it will issue a formal protest over the >> >> >> > > > execution in >> >> >> > >Saudi >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >Arabia of an Indonesian migrant worker convicted of murder, >> >> >> > > >arguing that it >> >> >> >> >> >> > >had >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >been in the middle of seeking clemency for her when she was >> >> >> > > >executed. >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > Ruyati Binti Sapubi, a migrant worker from Bekasi, was beheaded >> >> >> > > > by sword in >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >the >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >western province of Mecca on Saturday for murdering her female >> >> >> > > >employer, >> >> >> > > >stabbing her repeatedly in the head and neck with a kitchen knife >> >> >> > > >in January >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >2010. >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > Didi Wahjudi, a representative from the Indonesian consulate in >> >> >> > > > Jeddah, >> >> >> >Saudi >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >Arabia, said neither the consulate nor the embassy in Riyadh had >> >> >> > > >been >> >> >> >informed >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >about the execution. >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > He said the consulate only learned of it through media reports >> >> >> > > > as well as >> >> >> > >from >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >members of the Indonesian community in the country. >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > "We were actually in the middle of seeking clemency on behalf of >> >> >> > > > the >> >> >> >victim's >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >family and were conducting other non-litigation efforts," he said. >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > "We are not happy that the execution happened without us being >> >> >> > > > notified." >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > Despite two diplomatic notes asking for consular access to >> >> >> > > > Ruyati, Didi >> >> >> >said >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >Saudi authorities kept the embassy out of the loop during her >> >> >> > > >trial. >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > He said Indonesian officials had also tried to meet with her >> >> >> > > > when she >> >> >> > >appeared >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >in court. >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > However, he said Ruyati had pleaded guilty to the murder and >> >> >> > > > such crimes >> >> >> >were >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >punishable by death in Saudi Arabia. >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > Meanwhile, the government on Sunday said it condemned the >> >> >> > > > execution and >> >> >> >would >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >formally censure Saudi Arabia's ambassador to Indonesia, saying >> >> >> > > >the Saudi >> >> >> > > >authorities had not allowed it to provide Ruyati with proper >> >> >> > > >consular >> >> >> > > >assistance. >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > "Without disregard to the governing laws in Saudi Arabia, the >> >> >> > > > Indonesian >> >> >> > > >government condemns the execution that was carried out without >> >> >> > > >upholding the >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >international practice in relation to providing consular >> >> >> > > >protection," >> >> >> >Foreign >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >Ministry spokesman Michael Tene said. >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > A ministry press release said the Saudi Arabian ambassador would >> >> >> > > > be >> >> >> > >officially >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >summoned so the government could present its case, while the >> >> >> > > >Indonesian >> >> >> > > >ambassador in Riyadh would be recalled to Jakarta "for >> >> >> > > >consultation." >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > Ruyati's daughter, identified only as Evi, told radio station El >> >> >> > > > Shinta >> >> >> >that >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >her mother's placement agency had falsified her age, cutting it >> >> >> > > >from 54 to >> >> >> >35, >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >so she could qualify to work abroad. >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > Separately, Hikmahanto Juwana, an international law expert at >> >> >> > > > University of >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >Indonesia, called for a halt to migrant workers being sent to >> >> >> > > >Saudi Arabia. >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > "The withdrawal is necessary to voice the Indonesian >> >> >> > > > government's objection >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >to >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >the beheading, and the government is entitled to demand an >> >> >> > > >explanation from >> >> >> >> >> >> > >the >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >Saudi authorities about why they failed to inform the embassy >> >> >> > > >there," he >> >> >> >told >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >the Jakarta Globe. >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > He said more pressure should also be exerted on Riyadh to take >> >> >> > > > firm legal >> >> >> > > >action against abusive Saudi employers. "Migrant workers do not >> >> >> > > >go abroad to >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >commit crimes," he said. "If they do commit a crime, it must be >> >> >> > > >because of >> >> >> >the >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >violent treatment they get from their employers." >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > Tjahjo Kumolo, from the Indonesian Democratic Party of Struggle >> >> >> > > > (PDI-P), >> >> >> > >called >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >for the ambassador to Saudi Arabia, Gatot Abdullah Mansyur, to be >> >> >> > > >fired over >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >the >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >mishandling of the case. >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > "The Foreign Ministry said they did not know about Ruyati's >> >> >> > > > case," he said. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >"So >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >what is the ambassador doing there? The ambassador must be >> >> >> > > >dismissed." >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! 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