Saya menulis: m "Membunuh manusia itu salah.
Titik." Lalu Abbas Amin menulis: "Dan kamu megharapkan kemusnahan umat Islam sedunia; alangkah biadabnya kamu ! Berarti juga seluruh anti Islam, biadab !" Nggak salah lagi dah. Abbas Amin jelas sudah nggak waras. Abbas Amin jelas sudah gila pula.. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Abbas" <abas_amin08@...> wrote: > > Dan kamu megharapkan kemusnahan umat Islam sedunia; alangkah biadabnya kamu ! > Berarti juga seluruh anti Islam, biadab ! > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: > > > > > > Membunuh manusia itu salah. > > > > Titik. > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Abbas" <abas_amin08@> wrote: > > > > > > Kalau tak ada alasan yang jelas yaa bajingan lah. > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Kalo orang Sunni ngebantai orang Ahmadiyah itu bajingan apa kagak? > > > > > > > > Kalo orang Sunni ngebantai non muslim, bajingan apa kagak? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > > From: Abbas <abas_amin08@> > > > > >To: proletar@yahoogroups.com > > > > >Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 12:02 PM > > > > >Subject: [proletar] Re: Kuwaiti Shaykh Explains and Justifies Islamic > > > > >"Pleasure Marriages" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Â > > > > >Orang Sunni ngebantai orang Shiah bajingan > > > > >Orang Shiah ngebntai orng Sunni jug bjingn ! > > > > >Inilah pernyataan RESMI dari Abbas Amien > > > > > > > > > >--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> Ni orang dungunya minta ampun. Kalo gua bikin pernyataan, apanya yg > > > > >> perlu gua jawab? > > > > >> > > > > >> Tp kayaknya sih si Abbas Amin bilang bhw orang Shia itu bukan orang > > > > >> Islam, maka orang Islam Sunni yg ngebunuh orang Shia ga dianggap sbg > > > > >> bajingan oleh Abbas Amin, sebaliknya orang Shia yg ngebunuh orang > > > > >> Sunni adalah bajingan. > > > > >> > > > > >> Hehehe... akhirnya Abbas Amin ngasih pencerahan. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >________________________________ > > > > >> > From: Abbas <abas_amin08@> > > > > >> >To: proletar@yahoogroups.com > > > > >> >Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 11:11 AM > > > > >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Kuwaiti Shaykh Explains and Justifies > > > > >> >Islamic "Pleasure Marriages" > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> >Â > > > > >> >Pernyataan yng sudah dijawab sendiri oleh si Debil ! Dasar si Debil > > > > >> >memang bak anjing kena rabies, yng menggonggong salh waktu ! > > > > >> > > > > > >> >--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> Jadi kalo orang Sunni ngebantai orang Shia, maka orang Sunni ga > > > > >> >> akan dianggap sbg bajingan oleh Abbas Amin. > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> Sebaliknya kalo orang Shia ngebantai orang Sunni, maka si orang > > > > >> >> Shia akan dianggap sbg bajingan oleh Abbas Amin. > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> Tentunya si habe akan ngedukung si Abbas Amin, hehehe... > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> >________________________________ > > > > >> >> > From: Bukan Pedanda <bukan.pedanda@> > > > > >> >> >To: proletar@yahoogroups.com > > > > >> >> >Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 10:31 AM > > > > >> >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Kuwaiti Shaykh Explains and Justifies > > > > >> >> >Islamic "Pleasure Marriages" > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> >Â > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> >Ah, syiah itu bukan Islam... > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> >--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Abbas" <abas_amin08@> wrote: > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> Siapa bilang itu sesuai dengan ajaran Islam !? Itu cocoknya > > > > >> >> >> dengan ajaran SYIAH, tahu ?! > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > Hehehe... cuma Islam yg bisa ngasih solusi ke orang2 gila > > > > >> >> >> > sex gimana cara muasin nafsu gila sex orang2 tsb, bukan? > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > Apa beda pelacuran dgn kawin muta atau kawin Islami dgn > > > > >> >> >> > rencana bininya langsung akan diceraikan setelah puas? Kagak > > > > >> >> >> > ada, kecuali yg dua disebut belakangan itu sesuai dgn hukum > > > > >> >> >> > auloh dan ajaran Islam. > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > Islam itu emang agama yg benar unt para bajingan gila sex, > > > > >> >> >> > pedophile, tukang merkosa dll. > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > http://www.translatingjihad.com/2011/11/kuwaiti-shaykh-handful-of-dates-is.html > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > Tuesday, November 22, 2011 > > > > >> >> >> > Kuwaiti Shaykh Explains and Justifies Islamic "Pleasure > > > > >> >> >> > Marriages" > > > > >> >> >> > Posted by Translating Jihad > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqRfhlYQo2w&feature=player_embedded > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > Translated from video clip posted to YouTube, 17 July 2011 > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > In the above video, Kuwaiti Shaykh Yasir al-Habib, a Shi'a, > > > > >> >> >> > explains and justifies the Islamic practice of zawaj > > > > >> >> >> > al-mut'a, or temporary marriage (lit. 'pleasure marriage'), > > > > >> >> >> > which is in a sense > > > > >> >> >> > Islamically-sanctioned prostitution. In the longer clip > > > > >> >> >> > which I took > > > > >> >> >> > this excerpted portion from, Shaykh al-Habib starts out by > > > > >> >> >> > saying that > > > > >> >> >> > Sunnis often try to embarrass Shi'a by saying that they're > > > > >> >> >> > going to > > > > >> >> >> > marry their sisters in a pleasure marriage. > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > Al-Habib responds by saying that, first of all, in Islam a > > > > >> >> >> > brother has > > > > >> >> >> > no authority over the actions of his sister. And secondly, > > > > >> >> >> > he contends > > > > >> >> >> > that Sunnis want him to deny pleasure marriage simply > > > > >> >> >> > because some > > > > >> >> >> > people find it repulsive, to which he counters that "the > > > > >> >> >> > Messenger of > > > > >> >> >> > Allah didn't find it repulsive." Then he turns the argument > > > > >> >> >> > around, > > > > >> >> >> > explaining that Sunnis attempt to deny pleasure marriage > > > > >> >> >> > while accepting > > > > >> >> >> > marriage with the intent to divorce, which is essentially > > > > >> >> >> > the same > > > > >> >> >> > thing. > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > He also brings up a hadith or saying from one of the > > > > >> >> >> > companions of > > > > >> >> >> > Muhammad, who said that, "We contracted temporary marriage > > > > >> >> >> > giving a > > > > >> >> >> > handful of the dates or flour as a dower during the life > > > > >> >> >> > time of Allah's > > > > >> >> >> > Messenger (may peace be upon him) and during the time of > > > > >> >> >> > Abu Bakr until > > > > >> >> >> > Umar forbade it because of Amr Ibn Huraith" (from > > > > >> >> >> > al-islam.org). The last point about Umar forbidding it is > > > > >> >> >> > where most Shi'a and Sunnis > > > > >> >> >> > disagree--the Shi'a don't accept Umar as a legitimate caliph > > > > >> >> >> > or > > > > >> >> >> > successor to Muhammad, while the Sunnis do. > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > Subtitled video is above, transcript below (h/t Nonie > > > > >> >> >> > Darwish): > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > I tell him, âCome on, if youâre a man, then give me your > > > > >> >> >> > sister in > > > > >> >> >> > marriage, a marriage with the intent of divorcing after one > > > > >> >> >> > night.â I > > > > >> >> >> > could imagine something like that, now that you mention it. > > > > >> >> >> > You know? > > > > >> >> >> > Now, even if you find this repulsive, the Messenger of Allah > > > > >> >> >> > didnât find it repulsive. The Messenger of Allah approved > > > > >> >> >> > this marriage by > > > > >> >> >> > recognizing it. The Messenger of Allah permitted and > > > > >> >> >> > authorized > > > > >> >> >> > (temporary) pleasure marriages. Now even if they later put > > > > >> >> >> > it in a > > > > >> >> >> > written hadith that he later forbade pleasure marriages, the > > > > >> >> >> > important > > > > >> >> >> > thing is that it was present (during the time of the > > > > >> >> >> > Prophet). > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > >If the marriage was by nature considered repulsive by the > > > > >> >> >> > >Shariâah, > > > > >> >> >> > meaning it was not pleasing to Almighty Allah and His > > > > >> >> >> > Messenger (PBUH), > > > > >> >> >> > then the Prophet from the beginning would not have permitted > > > > >> >> >> > it. Why did > > > > >> >> >> > he permit it? I mean, it wasnât considered contrary to > > > > >> >> >> > the honor of > > > > >> >> >> > Muslim women. Why did he authorize his companions to marry > > > > >> >> >> > Muslim women > > > > >> >> >> > for a short time, and to âenjoy them (sexually),â > > > > >> >> >> > [Qurâan 4:24] even > > > > >> >> >> > with a handful of dates? A handful of dates is given to any > > > > >> >> >> > woman to > > > > >> >> >> > enjoy her sexually, thatâs it. If you say that this is > > > > >> >> >> > adultery, then > > > > >> >> >> > youâre accusing the Messenger (PBUH) of adultery, or that > > > > >> >> >> > he legitimized > > > > >> >> >> > adultery. If you say this is repulsive, youâre accusing > > > > >> >> >> > the Messenger > > > > >> >> >> > (PBUH) of being repulsive, or that the Messenger of Allah > > > > >> >> >> > legitimized > > > > >> >> >> > that which is repulsive, Allah forbid. Is it not so? > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > >Pleasure marriage came to solve a societal problem. It > > > > >> >> >> > >doesnât mean that > > > > >> >> >> > it always has to be applied. However, if my sister did > > > > >> >> >> > that, according > > > > >> >> >> > to its rules and laws, whether she were a widow and her > > > > >> >> >> > husband had > > > > >> >> >> > passed away, or she were divorced, and so forth; if she > > > > >> >> >> > needed it (for > > > > >> >> >> > whatever reason), then this marriage would be according to > > > > >> >> >> > the tradition > > > > >> >> >> > (sunnah) of Allah and His Messenger (PBUH). There is no > > > > >> >> >> > shame in this. > > > > >> >> >> > No shame at all. > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > Tidak ada alasn > > > ------------------------------------ Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! 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