Tabiat Teddy ini betul-betul menjijikkan... Tanpa dia punya bukti bahwa orang Indonesia yang terancam disuruh pulang itu memang sama sekali tidak terancam di Indonesia.
Lagian kita tahu bahwa tiap orang kafir di Indonesia sebenarnya terancam oleh orang Islam, oleh semua orang Islam. Saya ulang: ajaran agama Islam itu menyuruh mukmin membunuhi orang kafir. Jadi, tiap orang Islam itu, bergantung udelnya dan bergantung kesempatan akan merasa dapat pahala untuk menebas batang leher tiap orang kafir Jangan lupa apa yang terjadi tahun 1965-1966 ketika orang Islam ikut membantai pendukung Orde Lama, pada hal mereka sendiri adalah juga pendukung Orde Lama... --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Teddy S." <teddyr@...> wrote: > > Goblog. > Coba simak sendiri komentar-komentar pembaca Kompas yang menyebutkan > korban-korban kerusuhan Mei 1998 langsung minta suaka dan mendapatkannya. > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: > > > > > > Goblok. > > > > Dari berita itu belum jelas apakah mereka memang TIDAK menjadi korban > > persekusi di Indonedia.. > > > > Dibalik itu mereka juga punya argumen untuk tetap tinggal di Amerika: anak > > mereka yang lahir di Amerika adalah orang Amerika. > > > > Yang menjijikkan dengan Teddy ini adalah bahwa, saat orang Amerika sendiri > > ada yang berusaha menolong orang Indonesia itu, dia justru tidak > > menunjukkkan rasa solidaritasnya. > > > > Kelakuan manusia oportunis ini betul-betul busuk, nista lagi menjijikkan... > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Teddy S." <teddyr@> wrote: > > > > > > Sudah tua maunya masih minta disuapin aja. > > > Nih, beritanya yang gampang sudah dalam bahasa Indonesia. > > > > > > --- > > > Mayoritas mengajukan suaka berdasarkan kekerasan terkait agama. Namun, > > > semuanya ditolak karena mereka telah tinggal lebih dari setahun yang > > > merupakan batas waktu pengajuan suaka setelah mereka tiba di AS. > > > --- > > > > > > http://internasional.kompas.com/read/2011/12/08/09364282/Hendak.Dideportasi.72.WNI.Cari.Suaka.di.AS > > > > > > Orang yang minta suaka biasanya langsung dilakukan seperti misalnya yang > > > dilakukan orang saat dia baru mendarat di bandara Sydney. Kalau setahun > > > lewat belum dilakukan juga, keasyikan cari duit, alasannnya diragukan > > > kebenarannya. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Jadi Teddy yang katanya mengikuti perkembangan kejadian ini nggak bisa > > > > bawa buktinya... > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Teddy S." <teddyr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Saya mengikuti perkembangan kejadian ini. Buktinya kalau memang > > > > > kesaksian mereka memang benar, tentu Pemerintah AS akan memberikan > > > > > visa tinggal bagi mereka. Orang memasuki negara lain itu dengan cara > > > > > yang legal dan bukan dengan cara menipu. Saat dulu untuk mendapatkan > > > > > visa penduduk tetap Australia, saya lulus ujian tertulis selama 3 jam > > > > > hingga layak menjadi anggota Institution of Engineers, Australia. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tanpa bukti, tanpa penjelasan Teddy yang adalah oportunis > > > > > > bertgabiat menjijikkan ini berkata: > > > > > > > > > > > > "Konon sebagian dari mereka membuat kesaksian palsu seakan-akan > > > > > > keselamatan jiwanya terancam di Indonesia. Padahal, tujuannya > > > > > > adalah agar bisa menetap di AS. " > > > > > > > > > > > > Omongan orang yang mau menikmati sendiri saja hidup enak di negeri > > > > > > maju.. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Teddy S." <teddyr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Konon sebagian dari mereka membuat kesaksian palsu seakan-akan > > > > > > > keselamatan jiwanya terancam di Indonesia. Padahal, tujuannya > > > > > > > adalah agar bisa menetap di AS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Sunny" <ambon@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/07/nyregion/us-tells-72-indonesians-in-new-jersey-to-leave.html?_r=1&ref=asia > > > > > > > > Canceling Stay, U.S. Orders 72 Indonesians in New Jersey to > > > > > > > > Leave > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aaron Houston for The New York Times > > > > > > > > Jacob Senewe, 9, of Edison, N.J., and his mother, Audrey > > > > > > > > Sondakh, at a candlelight vigil on Monday in Highland Park for > > > > > > > > Indonesians facing deportation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > By KIRK SEMPLE > > > > > > > > Published: December 6, 2011 > > > > > > > > Two years ago, a community of Indonesians in central New Jersey > > > > > > > > was spared deportation after a Protestant pastor brokered an > > > > > > > > unusual agreement with immigration authorities that allowed > > > > > > > > them to stay in the country temporarily. The agreement was > > > > > > > > clear: The Indonesians would be able to stay and work, but the > > > > > > > > permission could be rescinded at any moment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Follow @NYTMetro > > > > > > > > Connect with @NYTMetro on Twitter for New York breaking news > > > > > > > > and headlines. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Enlarge This Image > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aaron Houston for The New York Times > > > > > > > > Harry Pangenanan of Highland Park, N.J., listened as his > > > > > > > > daughter Jocelyn, 9, read his letter to President Obama. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 72 Indonesians and their supporters, led by the Rev. Seth > > > > > > > > Kaper-Dale, had appealed for the arrangement in the hope that > > > > > > > > with extra time, they would be able to figure out a way to > > > > > > > > secure permanent legal status, either though the courts or with > > > > > > > > the passage of immigration reform legislation in Washington. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Immigrant advocates had hoped the deal signaled a broader use > > > > > > > > of humanitarian release for illegal immigrants without criminal > > > > > > > > records and with deep ties to the community. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, though, the reprieve for the Indonesians is ending. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In recent weeks, most of the Indonesians, many of whom fled > > > > > > > > persecution of Christians in Indonesia years ago, have received > > > > > > > > letters from the Department of Homeland Security ordering them > > > > > > > > to appear at the agencyâs Newark office, a one-way ticket to > > > > > > > > Indonesia in hand. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Their advocates have leapt into action, appealing to > > > > > > > > immigration officials for continued lenience and lobbying > > > > > > > > members of the stateâs Legislature and Congressional > > > > > > > > delegation to intervene. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, Representatives Carolyn B. Maloney of New York > > > > > > > > and Frank Pallone Jr. of New Jersey, both Democrats, plan to > > > > > > > > submit a bill that would provide relief to many of the > > > > > > > > Indonesians. The bill would allow certain Indonesians who fled > > > > > > > > persecution in their homeland between 1997 and 2002 to resubmit > > > > > > > > asylum claims that had been denied because they missed a > > > > > > > > one-year filing deadline. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > âIt feels so un-American to not make room to keep families > > > > > > > > together, especially when folks came out of a time and place > > > > > > > > where there was tremendous violence,â Mr. Kaper-Dale said in > > > > > > > > a telephone interview on Tuesday as he led a 24-hour vigil and > > > > > > > > fast at his parish, the Reformed Church of Highland Park, N.J., > > > > > > > > in support of the Indonesians. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The advocates said the decision to end the so-called orders of > > > > > > > > supervision was surprising in light of recent assurances by the > > > > > > > > Obama administration that it would focus its enforcement > > > > > > > > strategy on illegal immigrants with criminal records, while > > > > > > > > sparing those with strong ties to the community and no criminal > > > > > > > > record. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In June, senior officials at the Homeland Security Department > > > > > > > > announced a policy to encourage immigration agents and lawyers > > > > > > > > to use prosecutorial discretion when deciding whether to pursue > > > > > > > > deportation. The policy expanded the factors immigration > > > > > > > > authorities can take into account in such decisions, including > > > > > > > > how long an illegal immigrant has been in the United States and > > > > > > > > whether the immigrant was brought to the country as a child. In > > > > > > > > addition, the directive gave federal immigration lawyers the > > > > > > > > authority to dismiss deportation proceedings against immigrants > > > > > > > > without serious criminal records. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Last month, Homeland Security officials, seeking to speed > > > > > > > > deportation of convicted criminals, said they would begin a > > > > > > > > review of all deportation cases in the immigration courts and > > > > > > > > begin training enforcement agents and government lawyers in the > > > > > > > > application of the new prosecutorial discretion guidelines. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr. Kaper-Dale said all the Indonesians he had been helping > > > > > > > > would seem to be worthy candidates for this sort of relief. > > > > > > > > Most have been in the country for at least a decade and have > > > > > > > > American-born children, steady jobs and no criminal records, he > > > > > > > > said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Most of the Indonesians have filed requests for prosecutorial > > > > > > > > discretion, he said. âIf these folks were good enough for > > > > > > > > discretion two years ago, why arenât they good enough for > > > > > > > > discretion now?â the pastor asked. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Officials at Immigration and Customs Enforcement, an arm of > > > > > > > > Homeland Security, would not explain on Tuesday why the orders > > > > > > > > of supervision were ending now. In response to media inquiries, > > > > > > > > an agency spokesman issued a statement saying that the agency > > > > > > > > was reviewing appeals âon a case-by-case basis.â > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The orders of supervision allowed âindividuals to remain in > > > > > > > > the community â" as opposed to in detention â" while they > > > > > > > > pursue legitimate forms of immigration relief,â the statement > > > > > > > > said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, however, 12 of the Indonesians, responding to an > > > > > > > > immigration agency order, appeared at the Newark office. They > > > > > > > > ignored demands that they bring plane tickets, Mr. Kaper-Dale > > > > > > > > said. Agency officials told them to return later this month and > > > > > > > > added that the agency would issue them plane tickets, the > > > > > > > > pastor said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Among them was Grace Laloan, 42, who arrived in the United > > > > > > > > States in 2002 with her husband. She said the couple, both > > > > > > > > Christians of Chinese descent, had fled religious and ethnic > > > > > > > > persecution by the Muslim majority. They have an American-born > > > > > > > > daughter, now 7, and work in factories, Ms. Laloan said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Officials told her they would inform her of her fate on Dec. > > > > > > > > 21. âI donât know, maybe theyâre going to send me > > > > > > > > back,â Ms. Laloan said. âIt feels bad because I want to > > > > > > > > stay here.â > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Under the terms of the bill proposed by Representatives Maloney > > > > > > > > and Pallone, an applicant must be an Indonesian citizen; must > > > > > > > > have entered the United States after Jan. 1, 1997, and before > > > > > > > > Nov. 30, 2002; must have had an asylum application rejected > > > > > > > > because of a late filing; and must not have a criminal record > > > > > > > > or be otherwise barred from receiving asylum, among other > > > > > > > > conditions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr. Kaper-Dale said more than 1,000 Indonesians might be > > > > > > > > affected by the bill, including clusters in New York and New > > > > > > > > Hampshire for whom he helped secure orders of supervision in > > > > > > > > 2010. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > âIt is our hope through a pending Congressional action, > > > > > > > > I.C.E. will stay deportation proceedings,â Representative > > > > > > > > Maloney said in a statement. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Post message: prole...@egroups.com Subscribe : proletar-subscr...@egroups.com Unsubscribe : proletar-unsubscr...@egroups.com List owner : proletar-ow...@egroups.com Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: proletar-dig...@yahoogroups.com proletar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: proletar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/