i believe there is both a in memory cache and an in schematic file cache closing and reopening the file does not clear the memory cache as i recall
you have to close the whole protel session i think this was cleaned up somewhere along the way so that i have not found it to be much of a problem please correct me if i am wrong about this behavoir Dennis Saputelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > This probably strays from your query, but from memory, there was a buglett > (I'm not sure if it's been fixed) in that where you define the default > primitives in the schematic editor for schematic parts, one of the > PartFields was incorrectly mapped to another. Therefore, there was one > part field you could not define, and another that appeared twice. What I > do now at the end of a design is to do a global change to all schematic > parts and replace all part fields matched by: * with attributes: {*=}. > > "...The weirdest thing however is that when I place the part, delete it > and > then place it again all behaves as expected: non-hidden, blank fields. > Every subsequently placed instance of that part (wether left-click or with > > a new place command) is then OK, even when rotated..." > > .... this mysterious behaviour may have to do with how Protel caches > placed library parts. Once you place a part in the schematic editor, it > is cached in memory somewhere (escapes me as to where exactly at the mo). > Even when you place a part supposedly from the library, it adopts the > cached part. This is overridden with the "update cached parts" function. > > I've also experienced Michael's situation once where an entire databse > file etc vanished. This occured when Protel crashed and gave the option > to "ignore and continue" or "close". This one time I chose to close and > it then kindly offered to save my work that had changed. The mistake in > this case is to select "save" (and destroy). > > HTH > Brendon. > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 09/18/03 02:00 AM > Please respond to > "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To > "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > cc > > Subject > Re: [PEDA] P99SE has Altzheimers' ? > > I have noticed (and I have only been using 99 SE for a few months) that it > does indeed have Altzheimer's. I have had the program completely erase my > entire database (admittedly it wasn't large) including the backups. > > I recently had a harddrive crash and had to reinstall Windows and Protel. > Since then it has been MUCH better behaved. > > Michael Badillo > > From: Leo Potjewijd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2003/09/17 Wed AM 08:08:16 EDT > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [PEDA] P99SE has Altzheimers' ? > > Hi again. > > I just noticed sometghing strange with the Sch editor of P99SE(SP6). > > I set up my schematic libraries (all in one database) with custom part > field names: 'tolerance' for field 1, 'power/voltage' for field 2 and > 'class/rating' for field 3. > Since these fields can be blank for a lot of parts, I further set those > fields to blanks in the default primitives dialog. I also unchecked their > 'hide' checkbox to facilitate later editing. > > When I place a part, the first time around these fields show up as an > asterisk on the same location as the part type; ie I have a value and > three > asterisks on top of one another. > The fields are not hidden (as expected), but the fields contain asterisks > (which is NOT expected). > > When I rotate the part or left-click again the asterisks that shouldn't be > > there in the first place suddenly show up at their normal position (which > is _very_ strange, to say the least). > > The weirdest thing however is that when I place the part, delete it and > then place it again all behaves as expected: non-hidden, blank fields. > Every subsequently placed instance of that part (wether left-click or with > > a new place command) is then OK, even when rotated... > > But when I place some other part from any library I'm back at square one. > > Closing libraries, databases or restarting Protel doesn't help; neither > does 'update parts in cache' or 'update schematics'. > > Which brings me to these questions: > Did I miss a setting somewhere? > Did anyone see this before? > Is there a solution to this? This is quite annoying..... > > Leo Potjewijd > hardware designer > IE Keyprocessor bv. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > +31 20 4620700 -- Dennis Saputelli ========= send only plain text please! - no HTML ========== _______________________________________________________________________ Integrated Controls, Inc. www.integratedcontrolsinc.com 2851 21st Street tel: 415-647-0480 San Francisco, CA 94110 fax: 415-647-3003 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *