John, I hear ya, I don't have the luxury of having another seat of something with autorouting that works at the moment. Right now our fornt end is Orcad so I too have a backannotation situation to deal with too. I really wished Protel had released the autorouter I hoped it would be. As it is now I really can't use it for much. Bob
----- Original Message ----- From: "John A. Ross [Design]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] P99SE has Altzheimers' ? > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert M. Wolfe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 1:50 PM > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: Re: [PEDA] P99SE has Altzheimers' ? > > John, > Not sure if they did this yet but if the Autorouter for > PADS is now the Expedition (VeriBest) autorouter > I would state they not in the same ballpark, > and quite frankly not in the same universe. > Never looked at their Blaze Router though, but Expedition > router is best I've ever seen. Bob I thought that's what I politely said :-) > For one the Autorouter in Pads works, It is Blaze I use here, and I am sure it has its faults too, they are pretty well noted on the pads list server. I have heard good things about the expedition router although never seen it in action. In fact it is mostly for boards I need autoroute functionality on that I use Pads. For final tweaking it can end up being imported back to Protel layout although this process would be much nicer to use, if the DXP interface would support the latest Pads formats. I am quite used to a workflow where I use Protel as the font end and transfer to Pads or Protel for layout as the board technology demands. I of course sacrifice a back annotation facility from Pads, but as long as the ECO can be documented, I do not mind introducing the ECO from SCH end and forward annotating the changes. If I can get the front end of DXP to have a real nice interface to Pads layout as well as DXP layout I would be happy at that, then it would make no difference or interest to me if Situs ever worked. The Situs issue is way down my wish list of things I would like to change, or have in DXP. Best Regards John A. Ross RSD Communications ltd Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW http://www.rsd.tv ================================== > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John A. Ross [Design]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 7:02 AM > Subject: Re: [PEDA] P99SE has Altzheimers' ? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ian Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 1:40 AM > > To: Protel EDA Forum > > Subject: Re: [PEDA] P99SE has Altzheimers' ? > > > > Snipped< > > > I would love to get together, face to face, computer to > > computer with a > > very experienced OrCad, and PADs user, both of whom are > > non-religious in > > their approach to computer software, and go through a > > detailed end-to-end > > design flow. Then we would all write it up as an article. > > The warts of > > each would be listed and the good points of each. Doubt it > will ever > > happen, unless some magazine commissioned it. I gotta earn > > some money > > sometime. > > I am a regular Pads user, maybe not a proficient one, but I > have had a copy on my desk for much longer than I have had Protel. > > But good luck in finding a 'non' religious Pads User, they > tend to be die-hards to the end. Most of the Protel based > designs I send to Asia end up in Pads format anyway at some point. > > I use both layout tools simply because the layout tools > within 99SE/DXP have different abilities to Pads. > > For one the Autorouter in Pads works, it supports jumper > insrtion correctly, it had way better PCB rules support than > 99SE, and the rules UI is much more intuative than DXP. > > But as for a point by point, and ease of use, UI analysis etc > I think it would be an even enough score (Autorouter > excluded) as the 2 applications have the same core abilities, > but each of them offers different benifets in certain areas > depending on the board design itself. > > I could not preceive life, without having both tools at my disposal. > > Best Regards > > John A. Ross > > RSD Communications ltd > Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > WWW http://www.rsd.tv > ================================== > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
