right, i found it: http://api.prototypejs.org/language/dollar-H/ i am used to the idea of assuming zero data persistence in a runtime environment so i'm not sure how this works outside the function scope. in php you have to serialize variables, use a global or superglobal array, use database, files, etc. on a client im used to seeing cookies being used, I am just wondering what the scope limit of this use is, as i am used to treating javacsript variables scope at function level only, passing them being required with get and setter methods I'll try the $H idea and see how it works. Thanks again
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