On 30 May 2016 at 13:52, Erik Romijn <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello all, > > I don’t mean to derail the discussion on board transparency, but I > felt I could not let these particular comments go by: > >>> I bet even Perl programmers have good intentions! >> >> They are good at hiding it. > > In my opinion, these comments are disrespectful and not inclusive.
I applaud your intention of assuring the community is inclusive, something I believe is a shared opinion on this list. However the way you have chosen to voice this raises some concerns with me. I think it is hard to find anyone in the Python community who really believes Python programmers are superior over Pel programmers, as much as I doubt that you can find anyone in the Perl community that really believe that Perl programmers are superior. Of course there will be outliers that truly believe that, but as stated these are outliers, and I doubt they are really part of their respective community. The part what concerns me is that you find it necessary to speak on behalf of the people you assume are supposedly disenfranchised, if there are people offended by this they are very well capable of standing up here and saying for example: "Well Perl may be a write only language, but Python is read only and doesn't get things done!". By choosing to speak for them, you are actually disempowering them from speaking for themselves. Inclusion and equality is not achieved by speaking on behalf of others, not even by positively discrimination of groups (you are still negatively discriminated other groups), but by removing barriers and giving *everyone* the opportunity to voice their opinion regardless of who/what/where/why they are. Sure this means that the most common opinion will be heard most often, but that does not mean that uncommon opinion are any less valid. Don't let good intentions translate to holier-than-thou approach, or you might as well end up as a group that censores the Life of Brian and totally missing the (absence) of the point. The appropriate response of being taken the piss is off is laughing if it is funny or a raised eyebrow and in extreme cases an "O'RLY" if it isn't. -- mph _______________________________________________ PSF-Community mailing list [email protected] https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community
