They’re ok, but you might want to use the adat connector for input and a 
standalone a/d box.  I have a 
presonus that is good.  The good thing about the alesis is that the menus don’t 
rap, and there is a dedicated button called home/preset where you can use the 
value dial to step through something like 10 setups for different daws.  Once 
you select pro tools and push the dial down which acts like enter you’re ready 
to go.  Of course you have to tell pro tools what ports to use in the hui 
setup.  
The m-audio project mix is another alternative, and it has two adat connectors 
and eight mic pres.  The mic pres suck in my oppinion, and I don’t think it is 
quite as stable, it was made a long time ago.  But it does have more dedicated 
buttons on it for aux sends and the like.  THe jog dial is detented though, not 
as good for scrubbing.
GordOn Jan 5, 2014, at 9:05 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4r...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I will check that out Gord, how are the AD converters?
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> Subject: Re: Understanding a Mackie universal pro with PT
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> This is why I really like my alesis master mix control surface.  It works 
> well with a lot of daws including pro tools, and it does have a decent audio 
> interface.  
> Although it only has 2 mic pres, it does have 8 line inputs and s/pdif and 
> adat inputs.  The jog wheel is very smooth for scrubbing, and for around $750 
> you can’t beat it.
> GordOn Jan 5, 2014, at 1:23 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4r...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> So as far as I understand, the MC universal pro is only a control surface 
>> with no audio ins such as line ins, pre's or optical/SPDIF, so in order to 
>> run audio in you would still need an audio interface to run external press 
>> into the DAW? I do have a mackie Onyx 16 20I around, could that be the audio 
>> interface and the MC pro be the control surfase in theory?
>> Thanks for any thoughts on this.
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