Steve, you could creat a bus to send your audio track through and when recording go and mute that bus and the audio track will still be recording the signal.
-----Original Message----- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Sparrow Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 2:56 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: input monitoring all good slau. yes that’s how i got around it yesterday. Thanks for your assistance. as always. Steve > On 22 Jan 2015, at 9:21 am, Slau Halatyn <slauhala...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Steve, > > If you're using the computer's built-in audio, therein lies the problem if > you're monitoring the computer's output through the console. I'm sure there's > probably a better way to route signals in this case but, without knowing all > the details, it's impossible to suggest anything that would be feasible. For > what it's worth, if your track is selected, simply pressing the m key will > toggle mute on and off. Perhaps that'll help in the mean time. > > Best, > > Slau > > On Jan 21, 2015, at 5:48 PM, Steve Sparrow <i...@sparrowsound.com.au> wrote: > >> hi slau, no the problem is really in the way the desk is set up. >> There is a computer level nobb. When you turn this up, you have an option to >> monitor what is being recorded, while listening to what is coming from other >> sauses, unfortunately the way it’sset up, it also records what ever the >> computer plays as well. so a feed back lupe is created. normally we do not >> use protools with this desk. what usually happens is we use sound forge, and >> studio recorder on a pc. Both of these programs do not allow you to monitor >> the input at all when recording, so the feedback lupe does not get >> created.In protools it is reversed, you hear the input level at all times. >> For the most part this is exactlly what i require. i was really just >> wondering if the input monitoring could be turned off, so as to set it up to >> run in the way these other programs run. As you say, i can set it up to only >> monitor the output of the desk, but the problem is when i replay i can not >> hear what is coming back until i re enable the computer. This is fine except >> when i’m recording voice tracks for radio i have to punch in and out very >> quickly and i do not have enough hands to hit command space and find this >> computer button at the same time. >> this is the cause of the feedback lupe. Very difficult to explain clearly in >> an email. so if this does not make sense i’m sorry, and i’ll leave this >> thread hear. But no it is not a software issue. i just wondered if it >> could be set up differently as could be done in sonar. you would just turn >> input echo off in sonar and no more issue. How ever i am not for a minute >> bagging protools at all, there are so many things that work so well, and i >> love the program, it’s only a little thing really which does not effect me >> when i’m using a proper interface. >> I can also find a work around on the alan and heath desk, and reroute the >> output if need be. >> Steve >> >> >>> On 22 Jan 2015, at 8:15 am, Slau Halatyn <slauhala...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Steve, >>> >>> I'm not exactly sure what the problem is. If you're getting feedback, it's >>> not a software issue. Either turn down your monitor or use headphones. Why >>> are you getting feedback? >>> >>> Option-k toggles between Auto Input and Input Only monitoring. Thus, if >>> you're not in record mode on a track, pressing Option-k will do nothing. >>> When a track is record enabled, pressing Option-k will toggle between Input >>> Only and Auto Input but you won't know the difference until the transport >>> is engaged. When the transport is engaged, Auto Input will monitor what's >>> being recorded. If you're not recording, the track will playback either >>> what's been recorded on the track or silence if there's nothing on the >>> track. >>> >>> Slau >>> >>> On Jan 21, 2015, at 4:58 PM, Steve Sparrow <i...@sparrowsound.com.au> wrote: >>> >>>> ok from what i can see, option k just let’s me monitor the input at all >>>> times. What I need is the opposite. I am wondering if i can turn off the >>>> input, so i don’t hear what i am recording till i play it back. I need >>>> this in this situation, as i am getting a feedback lupe when using an >>>> annalogue desk wit u s b capabilities. If there is an input monitor button >>>> in the standard version of protools, i’d like to know, cause i certainly >>>> can not find it.This would be achievable in sonar 8.5 by turning input >>>> echo off. But i do not have a machine to run it at present. and i’m really >>>> enjoying protools anyway. >>>> Steve >>>> >>>>> On 22 Jan 2015, at 7:29 am, Poppa Bear <heavens4r...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> It does on my lowly version. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] >>>>> On Behalf Of Mike Lockett >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 12:25 PM >>>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: Re: input monitoring >>>>> >>>>> Sorry was typing yeah HD. >>>>> I’am sure Option-K should still give you what you are looking for. >>>>> Just toggle to hear playback. >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 21, 2015, at 3:05 PM, Steve Sparrow <i...@sparrowsound.com.au> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> no i have nothing like that here. to the left of track record enabled is >>>>>> the pan nob. it’s the same in protools 10 and 11.are you running >>>>>> protools h d. or is there something missing in my protools. >>>>>> Steve >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 22 Jan 2015, at 6:32 am, Mike Lockett <mloc...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Steve, >>>>>>> just below the Pan Knob, >>>>>>> it should read “track input monitor" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To the left of track record enable. >>>>>>> On Jan 21, 2015, at 2:03 PM, Steve Sparrow <i...@sparrowsound.com.au> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> hi mike, >>>>>>>>> i have not seen an input monitor button anywhere. But sounds like >>>>>>>>> what i’m looking for. where did you say it is. Did you say it’s left >>>>>>>>> of the record button. on my machine to the left of record is the pan >>>>>>>>> nob and to the right of it i have solo i think. or am i looking in >>>>>>>>> the wrong place. >>>>>>>> I looked all over for such a thing, but have not found it. >>>>>>>> Thanks Steve >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 22 Jan 2015, at 1:35 am, Mike Lockett <mloc...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hey Steve after you switch to input monitoring, to hear playback you >>>>>>>>> have to switch back to auto input. >>>>>>>>> Also make sure the track input monitor button is deselected… >>>>>>>>> That button is just left of the record select button. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jan 21, 2015, at 8:12 AM, Steve Sparrow <i...@sparrowsound.com.au> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hey john yes, i did give that a go earlier today, but it just seems >>>>>>>>>> to allow me to monitor the input at all times.so when the transport >>>>>>>>>> is stopped the input still comes through. For some reason i can not >>>>>>>>>> seem to record in this mode. not sure why. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I guess what i am needing is a way to turn off the input sauce when >>>>>>>>>> actually recording. so you don’t hear what is coming in this is not >>>>>>>>>> a problem when using a proper interface like presonis or motu, or >>>>>>>>>> what ever, but i did encounter a problem when using the alan and >>>>>>>>>> heath z 18 today. this is a basic annalogue desk with u s b >>>>>>>>>> capabilities. So you can plug your computer in to it and start >>>>>>>>>> recording. I have used a pc with this desk and used programs like >>>>>>>>>> sound forge , and studio recorder. these programs to my knoledge do >>>>>>>>>> not let you hear the input at all, so the problem is not there. In >>>>>>>>>> sonar on a pc, you can enable or disable the inputut monitoring, >>>>>>>>>> they call it input echo, so this task could be achieved easily, But >>>>>>>>>> i can't see a way of doing this in protools short of muting the >>>>>>>>>> track when you record. If you are recording a voice track, and want >>>>>>>>>> to do a lot of punching in and out, this would be really hard to >>>>>>>>>> carry out. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It’s a strange one, and as i said before, in my studio at home here, >>>>>>>>>> i would not want to work this way, but need to with certain >>>>>>>>>> equipment. >>>>>>>>>> Steve >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 21 Jan 2015, at 10:45 pm, John Gunn <g...@tznet.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Steve, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Option k toggles on and off. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 21, 2015, at 3:13 AM, Steve Sparrow >>>>>>>>>>>> <i...@sparrowsound.com.au> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi. i am wondering if there is a way to turn off input monitoring >>>>>>>>>>>> in protools when recording. >>>>>>>>>>>> you can do this in sonar for each track. Under normal conditions >>>>>>>>>>>> i would not want to run this way, but i had protools running >>>>>>>>>>>> through an analogue desk today, and to cut a long story short, i >>>>>>>>>>>> ran my computer through the u s b feed on there desk. it worked >>>>>>>>>>>> fine but i got some feedback. the machine they generally use does >>>>>>>>>>>> not monitor the input when recording. so i’m wondering if it’s >>>>>>>>>>>> possible to do this within protools. >>>>>>>>>>>> or is there another way around this. Short of re routing my signal >>>>>>>>>>>> sauce. >>>>>>>>>>>> Steve >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>>>>> Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>>>> send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>>>> Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>>> send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>>> Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>> send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>>>> an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>>> an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. 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