Hello Nick, have you looked at any of the Artist series control surfaces? 

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From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Nick Gawronski
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 7:37 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: C couple of queries about volume

Hi, In regards to control surfaces as Avid told me that the Digi 003 
will probably be no longer supported after Pro Tools 12 I am looking for 
another control surface with moving controls and flip mode that talks to 
Pro Tools.  I was thinking of buying as my interface the new T4 thunder 
bolt only interface that runs off of the mac book pro's power so can be 
taken with me as I travel.  My question is which Avid interface or other 
brand will still have 8 tracks to control and supports flip mode?  I am 
not against another interface option are any other interfaces that are 
also control surfaces around or do people mainly have to buy them as 
different parts?  Nick Gawronski
On Sat, 13 Jun 2015, TheOreoMonster wrote:

> Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 00:48:06 -0400
> From: TheOreoMonster <monkeypushe...@gmail.com>
> Reply-To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: C couple of queries about volume
> 
> If memory serves correct, ProTOols supports the HUI protocol only and not 
> general midi. SO in order to have a control surface work in PT it has have 
> some
> sort of HUI mode. The avid surfaces usually come pretty much ready to go, but 
> in fader flip mode i believe  you should be able to map a HUI surface to
> control things like a plug in. As scott said before if there is a way to do  
> this with the BCF2000 google could probably get one pointed in the right
> direction. 
>       On Jun 12, 2015, at 9:51 AM, Slau Halatyn <slauhala...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I've never had the need to do a custom map of controls but the process is 
> quite straightforward, just as you've described. Now, you specifically
> mentioned Avid control surfaces in your previous message and that made me 
> have a second thought about what I said. It's entirely possible that the
> custom mapping facility, which undoubtedly exists, is specific to supported 
> control surfaces. I'm not certain whether that applies to generic MIDI
> controllers like keyboards with a bank of continuous controller sliders. 
> Again, I've never had the need to set up anything along those lines so I
> might be mistaken about the current state of generic MIDI mapping. I should 
> look into it for my own general knowledge.
> Slau
> 
> On Jun 12, 2015, at 8:30 AM, 'onlineeagle' via Pro Tools Accessibility 
> <ptaccess@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>       Now that is interesting Slau. From what I've gathered from researching 
> on the Internet that Midi Learn was discontinued after ProTools 9.
>       So apologies if I've been misinforming the list on this one. In Sonar, 
> you could essentially enter on a plugin control, select midi learn,
>       and then twiddle that knob, fader or press the button that you wish to 
> assign to that control. This seems like the most straight forward
>       and logical solution.
> 
> How, out of interest, do you tell the Avid control surfaces to control plugin 
> controls. Basically, is it easy to achieve?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 12 Jun 2015, at 00:55, Slau Halatyn <slauhala...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>       Pro Tools does, in fact, have a MIDI learn function, for the record. 
> The UI elements are not yet accessible. Even if they were,
>       however, it would probably take some sighted assistance to set up a 
> surface because the clues to what is being mapped is very
>       visual.
> Slau
> 
> On Jun 11, 2015, at 7:47 PM, 'onlineeagle' via Pro Tools Accessibility 
> <ptaccess@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>       Hi Brian, I'd love to be able to help you more, but you're using the 
> BCF as much as I am. I only do panning and volume. I
>       don't think it's possible to minipulate plugin controls with it 
> unfortunately, or at least if there is then I've no idea how.
>       Sadly Prrtools doesn't have a midi learn function like every other DAW, 
> which is a bit frustrating, and I imagine is a
>       restriction deliberately introduced to encourage people to buy Avid's 
> own control surfaces where plugin automation is
>       possible. 
>
>       Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 11 Jun 2015, at 17:29, Brian Howerton <bshowert...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>       I would love to get your thoughts on the BCF 2000.  I’ve just been 
> using it for setting levels and panning in pro tools,
>       but would love to dig in deeper to using this control surface with pro 
> tools.  Feel free to write me off-list.
>        Thanks,Brian
>             On Jun 11, 2015, at 5:59 AM, 'onlineeagle' via Pro Tools 
> Accessibility <ptaccess@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Slau, I assume Flip Mode is a control surface specific thing? I'm just 
> using a Beringer BCF at the moment. However,
> the clip gain feature seems to be perfect for my needs. I must give Keyboard 
> maestro my attention at some point. Thanks.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 10 Jun 2015, at 21:02, Slau Halatyn <slauhala...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>       Ah, I'm sorry but I neglected to point out that you need to use a 
> control surface to change that value for
>       now. It's possible to set a hot spot with a program like Keyboard 
> Maestro but I haven't gotten around to
>       doing that because I don't use the Trim plug-in. At any rate, it's 
> likely to be the very first encoder knob
>       or fader if you're in flip mode.
> HTH,
> 
> Slau
> 
> On Jun 10, 2015, at 2:55 PM, 'onlineeagle' via Pro Tools Accessibility 
> <ptaccess@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>       Hi Slau, it appears that there is a trim plugin, but I don't seem to be 
> able to change the value of
>       the paramiter which I assume is volume, given it's 0 DB reading. I can 
> mute lept and right channels
>       and invert the phaze, but the volume slider remains fixed. Asfor clip 
> gain, I can't find a way to
>       adjumt that anywhere. The only other solution could be to put each 
> track I want to adjust on a
>       seperate bus, and then I get a make shift work around. 
>
>       Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 10 Jun 2015, at 19:22, Slau Halatyn <slauhala...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>       First of all, if you're dealing with tracks that contain multiple 
> clips, forget clip gain. The
>       Trim plug-in does what you're looking to do. Thing is, I could be 
> mistaken but it might be an HD
>       feature only. It's been years since I've used Pro Tools vanilla so I 
> honestly don't know for
>       sure. That said, the Trim plug-in allows you to trim each track just as 
> you would with a console
>       with tape machine returns. If you want to adjust a track's output 
> across the board, so to speak,
>       you can do that with the volume parameter of the Trim plug-in.
> HTH,
> 
> Slau
>  
> On Jun 10, 2015, at 5:22 AM, 'onlineeagle' via Pro Tools Accessibility 
> <ptaccess@googlegroups.com>
> wrote:
> 
>
>             Hi, thanks for replying. I couldn't work out how to apply clip 
> gain. There's a
>             gain plugin in the Audio Suite, but I dont think that's 
> accessible. Plus, I
>             get a message about audio handles being disabled due to how 
> processing is set
>             up apparently. As for a trim plugin, I've not seen that. I'm 
> going to ghave a
>             full readup of the manual on a long journey I've got coming up, 
> but the manual
>             often speaks in visual language, so I'm not sure how useful 
> that'll be. Any
>             help 'on this is very welcome. Thanks a lot. 
> 
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