Thanks.

I will definitely give that a try.

Chris.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Slau Halatyn 
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 1:49 AM
  Subject: Re: Fading out audio


  Chris,


  You need to select from anywhere other than the very beginning of the region. 
Start some fraction of a second into the clip and then you have two choices: 
either use Option-g to do a linear fade to the next region boundary or select 
to the end of the clip and bring up the fades dialog with Command-f. In the 
fades dialog, press Control-left arrow several times then press Control-right 
arrow twice. You'll be on a fade out preset that should work for you.


  The only reason why this wouldn't work in this case is if you have pasted the 
vocals on top of other files that overlap the clips you pasted. In other words, 
if you pasted something over which there is an underlying clip extending beyond 
the boundary of the pasted clip, you'll be in a situation where the normal fade 
dialog won't work the way you need it to work. Instead, Pro Tools will assume 
you want to do crossfades. Anyway, this could potentially be a much bigger 
subject if that's the case. Hopefully, what I mentioned at the outset will 
suffice.


  Slau


  On Nov 25, 2015, at 5:08 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
wrote:


    OK, I think I may actually know what step in this I missed, but let me tell 
you all what I'm trying to do, and how I'm doing it.  I'm obviously doing 
something wrong, as it's not seeming to work.

    Basically, here's the deal.  I've got a session with 3 backing oos vocal 
tracks.  At the very end of the song when I hit the last final chord to end the 
song, those oos come in to complement the final chord.  Just to give it a 
little warmth, and a little bit of feeling/depth/color.  The problem is, I 
comffed those vocals from a previous location in the song, as they're 
identically the same.  I figured, why redo them, if I could just copy/paste.  
So, I got them pasted, and they're smack dead perfect! on the time ruler where 
I need them.  The only problem is, with the way things worked, they kind of cut 
off coldly.  There's no long decay.  For this reason, it sounds dreadfully 
horrible and very unnatural when they break off.

    So, what I'm trhying to therefore do is select those oos that I pasted 
there on that last chord, and basically have them very linniarly fade out.  No, 
Slau, I don't have a control surface.  I know, I know, I know, I know.  Don't 
shoot me dead!  LOL!

    Anyway, so what I did was, in my track list table, I selected all 3 of the 
backing tracks with VO+Space to toggle them all on as selected.

    In my edit window, I made sure that the selecter tool was activated, which 
it definitely is.

    Being that these oos come in over the last 2 bars of the song, I pressed 
option+Return to go to the end of the session.  I then used numpad 1 two times 
to back up 2 bars.  When I hit space bar then to play, it's perfect!  That's 
dead smack on the beginning of the oos.  I then hit option+Shift+return to 
select from there to the end of the session.

    Now, I'm pressing command+F for fade.  This is where I'm now getting stuck. 
 I've played with all the different shapes, although there are quite a few 
shape clusters in here, so maybe I'm doing it with the wrong one, but I hit the 
toggle preset button, and then definitely see the librarian menu, and all the 
other parameters.  NO matter which shape though I pick for the fade, it's not 
working.

    Basically, I'm just trying to get those oos to fade down without it fading 
down any of my other tracks in the session.  This way, even though they cut off 
coldly, by the time they do, they'll be either totally faded out, or will be so 
close to out, that it'll not really matter, and will sound a little more 
natural.

    Yeah, I could probably just not comph those final oos, and just sing them 
manually, so that they're more natural, but I figure why, if I already have a 
perfect cut of 'em?

    If I had to guess, if you tried challenging me saying, Chris, you tell me, 
what do you! think you did wrong, what I'd guess is, do I need to first go to 
the beginning of those oos, and do a command+E to split them off into their own 
clip, then select that clip with the shift+Tab, then? fade?

    If not, then help me out, as I'm clueless.  LOL!

    Sorry if I said already, but this is PT12.3.

    Chris.


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