it's just one of many ways to do it. I like that
it compares everything else to one note, and that
one note was tuned to an accurate reference. That
plus using only octaves or unisons eliminates
many possible errors when you're tuning solely by ear.
Even though I have perfect pitch, I still just
get reference tones from a tuner here. It's much quicker. (grin)
At 10:08 PM 1/2/2016, you wrote:
Chris, I'd never heard of that method with the
octaves, I'll have to give that a try.
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Smart" <csma...@cogeco.ca>
To: <ptaccess@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2016 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: Question about recording guitar
When tuning by ear using harmonics, beware. Only
tune using unisons or octaves. Use harmonics at
the 5th or 12th frets and compare to open strings
or fretted notes. Don't use harmonics at the 7th
fret, as they are slightly flat (almost 2 cents)
of the perfect fifth intervals used in equal
temperament tuning. Comparing 5th fret and 7th
fret harmonics, a popular tuning method, causes
out-of-tune-ness with the first pair of strings,
and this is compounded as you move across the neck!
Use a reliable reference like an electronic
keyboard, reference tones from an electronic
tuner etc. and get the open strings in tune first.
There probably isn't such a thing as a perfectly
in tune guitar, and chasing this dream may drive
you crazy if you're a person with absolute pitch.
Your tech can get things very close though, and
hopefully explain what he's doing so you can
perform basic guitar maintenance yourself in the
future. Also, consider that compensating for
poor intonation causes you to push and pull the
strings, engraining bad habbits that are difficult to break later.
My guitar teacher in college recommended the
following tuning method. IMPORTANT: It assumes
that your guitar is properly intonated from the
start, so that fretted notes all across the
fretboard are perfectly in tune, or as close as possible!
1. Tune your A string using an accurate reference
pitch from a tuning fork, keyboard, electronic tuner, tone generator, etc.
2. Fret your 4th string at the 7th fret (A) and
adjust the tuning of the 4th string until there
are no beats with the open 5th string.
3. Fret your 3rd string at the 2nd fret (A) and
adjust the tuning of the 3rd string until there
are no beats with the open 5th string.
4. Fret your 2nd string at the 10th fret (A) and
adjust the tuning of the 2nd string until there
are no beats with the open 5th string.
5. Fret your 1st string at the 5th fret (A) and
adjust the tuning of the 1st string until there
are no beats with the open 5th string.
6. Tune your low E string to the high E string so that there are no beats.
You will notice that this method gets one string
in tune with a reliable reference, and tunes the
other strings to it, using only octaves. If some
of those pairs are too hard to hear, you can
always use the 5th or 12th fret A string
harmonics, since these are still octave multiples.
Here's a great article explaining the basic tasks in setting up a guitar.
http://www.guitarnotes.com/notes/noteget.cgi?basic_guitar_setup
Chris
At 05:41 PM 1/1/2016, you wrote:
Hey Chris. it can make some difference, and it
will probably help a bit, But as you have
multiple notes going on, it̢۪s not gt going
to fix the problem really well. Have you tried
playing around with the harmonics on the guitar
itself. That may get you out of trouble until
you can get it looked at properly. I think you
said it̢۪s an electrctric guitar is that right.
I̢۪ve set the internasion on guitars before
when in in trouble, and i̢۪ve
got the job done.
Steve
On 2 Jan 2016, at 7:52 am, Christopher-Mark
Gilland <<mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
I have a lead guitar part I need to record on
a song I'm tracking. We have a little problem though.
For some reason, my 3rd G string and also on
some occasions my 2nd B string keeps going out
of tune. It's not a matter of retune it
though. If I do, then certain chords, like E,
or G sound fine, or A, even, but if I play a D
chord, then, ewwww! Gross! the G string, and
the B string are totally flat. More so my G
string. No, these are not wound strings.
Anyway, my suspicion is that I probably have
an intonation problem going on here. I plan
to take the guitar into a shop and have 'em
look at it, but in the mingtime, my question
is, if I was to pop auto-tune on that guitar
track, would that make it sound worse, or
could I effectively use that and maybe get the
thing more in tune? I mean, I know it
theoretically would work, but do you think it
would sound unnatural, or is it hard to say?
Is there maybe a better way until I can get
this thing looked at that I maybe could tackle this?
Chris.
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