OK, indeed, here we go again…
As I mentioned in my prior email, one of my Mail rules filters Chuck's messages 
straight to the trash. So, I didn't see his message directed to me until 
someone emailed me privately to inform me. Of course, then I had to go through 
the trash to retrieve the message and the previous messages to make sure I 
didn't miss something. So now I will address Chuck directly.

Chuck, thanks for volunteering life lessons but I'm not interested. I do 
occasionally learn things from others on the list. I choose to never take 
advice from you because, based on the past,  I simply don't trust the way your 
mind works and your ability to communicate clearly. Of course, that's not 
necessarily true in a wholesale way but I'm completely fine with throwing the 
baby out with the bathwater in this case.
So, in reading your responses to Martin, nowhere did you mention a control 
surface. Yes, you did assume but that doesn't also "make an ass out of me", as 
you tried to jokingly brush off. I almost always go out of my way to 
communicate as clearly as possible. If someone asks follow-up questions I 
usually go over my previous response to make sure I didn't say the wrong thing 
or steer somebody the wrong way. Your responses to Martin would lead one to 
believe that it's possible to initiate modified clicks with VoiceOver and 
that's simply not the case. When I eventually saw your messages to him, I 
thought perhaps there's something I didn't know about VoiceOver—a new feature 
or workaround. I would have welcomed your "teaching" us all something. Of 
course, instead of just clarifying that you made the assumption and, again, 
there's no way to do it just with VoiceOver, you instead decided to somehow try 
to make me look foolish as if I didn't know about using a control surface even 
though I've used surfaces for seventeen years. Anyway, I too made an assumption 
but only in the other direction—that Martin isn't using a surface. Since there 
was no mention of a surface at any point, I proceeded on that assumption. Based 
on your responses and that assumption, I simply said you either misunderstood 
somehow or were in a position to shed some light on a troubling aspect of 
VoiceOver, the lack of support for modified clicks. Instead of simply 
clarifying what you meant, you chose to condescend. Good luck with that.

You needn't reply as I won't see the response even if somebody informs me of a 
response. Frankly, I really couldn't care less. As for the conference call to 
which you needlessly refer, beside the fact that I'll be in a session at the 
time, even if I were present, it would be a waste of everybody's time to hear 
you try to "explain" something I already know. Spend your energy being clearer 
in your responses to those less experienced than you instead of lashing out at 
someone who needs no lessons from you.

Slau



On Feb 25, 2016, at 1:02 PM, CHUCK REICHEL <[email protected]> 
wrote:

> Hi Slau,
> Always remember this in life!
> Everybody has something  to teach if you just listen! :)
> I told you about this 5 years ago but here we go again. :)
> Heres how I do it.
> I hold the "option button" down on my control/24 then hit mouse down with my 
> "super duper" numpad mouse down & mouse up key I made up, then all is well 
> and the plug gets copied to  any where  you want to as long as you don't have 
> to many tracks showing!
> I assumed that most pro tools users have a surface that has some modifier 
> keys so thats where the confusion comes in.
> You know what happens when you assume?
> I'll explain it for you tomorrow on the Avid conference call if you want. :)
> 
> HTH
> Chuck
> 
> 
> CHUCK REICHEL
> [email protected]
> www.SoundPictureRecording.com
> 954-742-0019
> Isaiah 26 : 3
>  Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because 
> he trusteth in thee.
> 
> In GOD I Trust
> 
> On Feb 25, 2016, at 12:34 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
> 
>> Hi Martin,
>> 
>> While it's easy to move a plug-in within the same track, I haven't found a 
>> way to Option-drag a plug-in across tracks to an insert on another track. 
>> The problem is that VoiceOver doesn't support modified clicks. I noticed 
>> that you responded to Chuck. I didn't see his initial messages as I set up a 
>> mail rule to filter them out. But I did notice that he mentioned some 
>> solution with the Num Pad Commander. It's not entirely clear what he's 
>> trying to say but I do know that a modified click with the Num Pad Commander 
>> isn't supported. Adding the modifier would switch the Num Pad set to a bunch 
>> of alternative commands. Again, it's not perfectly clear what he's talking 
>> about. I think he's either misunderstanding your question or knows something 
>> that none of us seems to know. In the latter case, he should be shouting it 
>> from the mountain tops because that would really be big. Anyway, regardless 
>> of whether he shouts it, I won't hear it as per my explanation above. Let me 
>> know if you're successful and, if not, ask Chuck to do a quick audio demo. 
>> That would actually help everybody.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Slau
>> 
>> On Feb 25, 2016, at 8:48 AM, Martin (Punky) Sopart <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Chuck!
>>> 
>>> T4T! / Martin
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>> On Behalf Of CHUCK REICHEL
>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 2:31 PM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: Copying inserted plug-ins
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Martin,
>>>> Yes.
>>>> What I do is to mark a hotspot on the first insert and also mark a hotspot 
>>>> say
>>>> on track5 on the insert i want to copy the plug to and execute it!
>>>> HTH
>>>> Chuck
>>>> 
>>>> On Feb 25, 2016, at 8:22 AM, Martin (Punky) Sopart wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Chuck!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Also across tracks?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks! / Martin
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>>> On Behalf Of CHUCK REICHEL
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 1:48 PM
>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Copying inserted plug-ins
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Martin,
>>>>>> Yes hold down the "option key
>>>>>> " before you hit down mouse on the plug you want to move and
>>>> everything
>>>>>> gets copied to the new insert slot leaving the original intact. :)
>>>>>> HTH
>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> CHUCK REICHEL
>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>> www.SoundPictureRecording.com
>>>>>> <http://www.SoundPictureRecording.com/>
>>>>>> 954-742-0019
>>>>>> Isaiah 26 : 3
>>>>>> Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee:
>>>> because
>>>>>> he trusteth in thee.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In GOD I Trust
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 25, 2016, at 5:55 AM, Martin (Punky) Sopart wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Hello all!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Is there a direct way to copy e.g. the plug-in inserted in slot-b on
>>>>>> track-1
>>>>>>  to track-2 into slot-a including all plug-in parameters.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Thanks in advance! / Martin
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