Hey Slau, Not funny when that happens! Anyhow, I just check that exist a link 
named language English.
Could it be in German?! I believe translating Language to German it is  
Sprache. Hope that help's.

Concerning navegating the Avid produts webpage with Voice Over isnt so straight 
forward...  I know the feeling.
But, It seems that pressing that Show button will  show a produts chart, the   
top to botton topics are:
 Pro Tools versions, Drivers, plugins, demos and legacy.
Most have 3 links , one for windows, Mac and a PDF read me file.
Pressing it once will starts downloading straight away, find them at Mac sistem 
download folder.

Getting the ride:  Now that I've  got:
Pro Tools 12.5.2;
First Air effects bundle 12.0;
First Instruments bundle 12.0;.
Xpanded  12.0;
Am I forgetting any stuff?
So, concerning a clean PT updating procedures,  Am I correct thinking that 
ProTools 12.5.2 instaler  will wipe out version 11.3?
Anyway it will be fine all my PT personal preferences?
Can I folow the above list instalation order? Or exist a better recommended 
order?
No need to define nothing else regarding iLock  and so on is that correct?
Well, it's better to ask and do it right, agree?

Thanks in advance,




  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Slau Halatyn 
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 3:22 PM
  Subject: Re: Updating ProTools


  Hey guys,


  On the Mac, in that area where you see the word “show,” my recollection is 
that you have to interact with it. Once you interact, that word “show” becomes 
a clickable link and then it expands to show all of the products. You can 
download each item but you wouldn’t necessarily know whether it’s newer than 
the versions of the various products you have installed already. That’s where 
the App Manager does seem to work better. That said, yeah, for Pro Tools 
versions, it’s pretty straight-forward to just download from the Avid site. 
BTW, I can’t seem to login to my account from my laptop because the entire 
site, even avid.com, is in German and I can’t figure out how to change it. LOL


  Anyway, fun times.
  Slau


    On Aug 24, 2016, at 10:00 AM, Phil Muir <i...@accessibilitytraining.co.uk> 
wrote:


    No problem Pete.  Did it here on Windows.  No idea what may or may not
    happen on the Mac ;-)

    -----Original Message-----
    From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
    Of Peter Bosher
    Sent: 24 August 2016 14:49
    To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
    Subject: Re: Updating ProTools

    Many thanks Phil, I was with you all the way, but it was when I clicked 
    'show' that nothing appeared to happen, and I seemed to be going round 
    in circles.  It's really helpful though for knowing what to try next time.


    Best,


    Peter





    On 24/08/2016 13:54, Phil Muir wrote:

      Log-in to your Avid account.  Then click on "My Products" and find the
      heading that says:



      "My products and subscriptions"



       Then you will find what subscriptions you have that are active then

    click

      on the heading that says:



      "Product Details and Download Links."



      Just below that heading is a link that says:



      "Show"

      Click on the "Show" link and you should then see all of your Pro Tools
      latest updates below as links.



        _____

      From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On

    Behalf

      Of Peter Bosher
      Sent: 24 August 2016 12:13
      To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
      Subject: RE: Updating ProTools



      Hi All,



      It seems to me that, compared with updating ProTools, actually using it is

    a

      piece of cake.   Seriously, I used to feel pretty patient and resourceful
      when it came to navigating websites and update procedures, but I must be
      missing something here.



      I've wasted hours trying to understand the Avid site.  I signed in and

    found

      "my products and subscriptions", but no way could I find the 12.5.2

    upgrade.

      Of course when I asked a sighted person for help they just clicked on it
      straight away.  My question is, if you are one of those who is just

    merrily

      updating whenever a new update comes out, do you have a relatively simple
      procedure that you could explain?  And what, pray, is the Avid Application
      manager doing?  Slau did say that the latest version is accessible but all
      it ever seems to do here is upgrade itself, and certainly not give me
      ProTools Updates.   Perhaps I'm losing the plot but please, does anyone

    else

      share my mystification about actually finding and downloading the updates,
      and can someone take pity and put me out of my misery for next time?



      Best,



      Peter



      From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On

    Behalf

      Of Shawn Brock
      Sent: 23 August 2016 14:16
      To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
      Subject: Re: Updating ProTools



      And here I am having just updated to 12.5.2 yesterday... :). For some

    reason

      I am one of those folks who lags when it comes to updates. If I feel like
      something is running well, I seem to hold off. Never updated my OS to El
      Capitan. Not even on my mac which I am not running ProTools on. Though I

    am

      always anxious to see what updates have in store. As well I feel like

    12.5.2

      seems to load quicker and run more efficiently. I should not have waited

    so

      long to update. Guess I'm just like one of those birds you see on a
      telephone wire. He finds a spot and feels good about it and just sits

    there

      LOL. That's me.



      Shawn, Bird On A Wire


      On Aug 23, 2016, at 7:31 AM, Slau Halatyn <slauhala...@gmail.com> wrote:

      There are a few features that I'm happy to see. I suspect it'll be coming
      soon.

      Slau



      On Aug 23, 2016, at 7:17 AM, Rui Vilarinho <ruivilarinhomu...@gmail.com>
      wrote:



      Thanks, understood,, nice to know!

      Expecting important new features and accessibility performance improvement
      on this new version?

      Regards, Rui Vilarinho

      ----- Original Message -----

      From: Slau Halatyn <mailto:slauhala...@gmail.com>

      To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com

      Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 6:30 PM

      Subject: Re: Updating ProTools



      Hi Rui,



      I have Yosemite running on the studio Mac Mini and El Capitan running on a
      Mac Book Pro. The latest version of El Cap is technically not supported by
      Pro Tools but it does work. To me, the issue of El Cap is more of

    voiceOver

      sometimes cutting out and being unresponsive to the point where I need to
      unload and load it twice in a row in order for it to come back speaking.

    To

      be fair, I haven't seen that behavior in Pro Tools specifically but I'm

    not

      using that machine for day-to-day work so I can't testify to its long-term
      use. In general, however, the latest version will work on both systems and

    a

      new version is expected pretty soon and I think it'll support the current
      version of El Capitan. Maybe others will chime in with any other
      observations.



      Slau



      On Aug 22, 2016, at 1:02 PM, Rui Vilarinho <ruivilarinhomu...@gmail.com>
      wrote:



      Hi folks, this is Rui, with deserved university holidays! grin .

      Back to Pro Tools: I have until 30 august  to use a ProTools free update.

      My actual setup is Mac Pro 6 core, with Yosemite  and ProTools 11

    something.

      Use a Maudio Profire 2626 and  Avid 11Rack interfaces plus  BCF 2000

    control

      surface. all works a charme, I only use it for music production therefore

    I

      dont mind to stay with Yosemite, what are your thoughts?

      And, concerning ProTools wich version do you recommend? Is it ok to

    install

      the most recent one?

      Regards, Rui Vilarinho





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