>>>>> "Michael" == Michael Weinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Russell> About 30 of our nodes use the old nucab boxes as Russell> routers/captive portals. [...] Michael> I'm shocked (and maybe relieved) that the total is that Michael> low. How many have had their NuCabs replaced with a WRT/WGT Michael> or just been downgraded to an AP going into the DSL modem? Very few have been "downgraded", most of the WGT/WRT+wifidog deployments were new ones. However, those where nucabs were removed were: CaffeUno (defunct) Dittos (defunct) StaccatoGelato PioneerSquare Moonlight (defunct) RedAndBlack Nodes that used to have a nucab and now don't have a captive portal device at all include: Urban Grind BillyRay's GoldRush And OakTree had a nucab which died, and I've been meaning to get them a replacement but haven't yet. They were willing to resurrect, though. Michael> I think raising donations is a good idea, I don't think that Michael> seeking a grant specifically to replace nucabs is a good Michael> idea. Here's why: Michael> Foundations want to make gifts that expand organizations, Michael> they don't want to be ongoing supporters. In my own reading of the Meyer Memorial Trust website I saw a reference to an example of "replacing a roof", which is pretty similar. I'll concede that this might not seem as sexy as some big expansion or another neighborhood-wide project, but I don't think we need to decide for them that our need is not worthy of their investment. Our grassroots-ness is going to count for something. I also don't think we have to go the grant route, only that our need is small and demonstrable and that we shouldn't ignore any potential source of funding. Michael> If, however, by replacing the nucabs with the alix devices we Michael> were also able to build our volunteer capacity, or introduce Michael> new outreach efforts. [...] Developing the basic firmware package might be of interest to people. We've had some ideas for things like prioritizing node-host traffic. It would be really cool to get people involved in helping to implement/test those kinds of features. As far as getting people involved, we need to have something for them to work on. Coming to meetings and drinking beer is fun, but without real accomplishments to look back at ... a feeling of emptiness follows. This is one thing to work on. Michael> I don't think they should be unplugged or allowed to rot. But Michael> I do think the onus is on PTP and not a generous foundation Michael> to replace them. [...] I'm not prejudging who should fund this or how, but as someone on the front lines dealing with these things I'd like to suggest that we need to do something soonish. -- Russell Senior, Secretary [EMAIL PROTECTED] --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ The Personal Telco Project - http://www.personaltelco.net/ Donate to PTP: http://www.personaltelco.net/donate Archives: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.wireless.portland.general/ Etiquette: http://www.personaltelco.net/index.cgi/MailingListEtiquette List information: http://lists.personaltelco.net To post to this group, send email to ptp-general@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
