I'm not sure which I like less: the condescension or the introduction of religious references into this board. Hmmmm.
"J Garcia," I couldn't disagree with your post more. _Waste_ a bit of time helping those who need help . . . or waste even _less_ time by not responding at all. If you really think "Read the manual" helped anybody or anything, you have some soul-searching and reflection to do. Bravo, Carol. Well said! Take care, everybody. Back to the shadows.... Neil -----Original Message----- From: Kenbu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 9:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: cutting a section and pasting it somewhere else in a recording I whole heartedly agree Carol; You put it so cesinkl. Excuse my spelling. Well said; Ken by Only one life, 'twill soon be past; Only what's done in Christ will last. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Pearson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 4:55 PM Subject: RE: cutting a section and pasting it somewhere else in a recording > Hi there, > > My name isn't Jamie, and I already have a reputation (probably) for > speaking out on this list, so I'll do it once more and maybe the > moderator will choose to throw me off! <SMILE> > > Whilst I appreciate where you're coming from with regard to people > reading manuals for themselves, Jamie has been very kind in giving a > straightforward answer to what is not necessarily too straightforward > from the manual. (We all probably acknowledged the manual was not > written as well as we would have liked it to be.) There are many good > folk around like Jamie who help on lists. The kinds of people they > help are sometimes those who just come to grab what they can and go, > and there are others who never help anyone else, that is true! > > However, there is another group which includes those who find it very > difficult to absorb manuals and whose learning ability, perhaps, is > below most on the group, but still they want to get the best out of > their equipment. Don't they deserve help? Then there's poor little > me! I would have been typical in years gone by of those who were well > ahead in access technology issues and needed little help, but some > occasionally. There were days though when I'd been hard at work and > just needed some information and was either too tired or unable to > find what I needed at the time. I was always thankful for the help > given on such occasions. Now I, like others, have health problems > which mean that I have to take lots of medication which dulls my > ability to concentrate and sometimes I'm glad I don't have to remember > too much detail of what's gone on in various conversations during the > day because I probably couldn't recall it accurately enough. Now, > even if I don't deserve the help after this message, perhaps others > with similar problems do warrant consideration. Remember, you don't > know everyone's circumstances, just as we don't know yours - so > lighten up, give everyone a chance by helping where and when you can > and we may all get there! > > Finally, if the list doesn't exist to meet the needs of the one who > asks the beginners' questions as well as those who talk about the > advanced stuff that some beginners don't have a clue about, then maybe > some of us need to get off the list and get some other kind of "life"! > > > -- > Carol > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: J Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 02 September 2004 19:27 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: cutting a section and pasting it somewhere else in a > recording > > > Jaimie, > > While I appreciate your gentle words, by answering simple questions > you are conditioning people to repeat their actions in the future and > as a result they will post more and more questions to easily resolved > issues. This means they will continue to do the same thing in the > future and people like you will take an hour of their lives to answer > someone's question who was too lazy to take 10 minutes to look it up > themselves. Whether you are aware of it or not they benefit and you > lose. If this person actually made an attempt to look up a solution > they not only would learn the process themselves making it faster the > next time, but they will also learn many other things in their search > for an answer. I've seen many people like this send the same question > to up to 10 different lists because they know the more people they > contact the higher the likelihood of the response. Like my learning > theory professor tells his classes: "I will not reinforce laziness." I > don't think many of the knowledgeable people on this list should > support this behavior either. > > J Garcia > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 1:55 AM > Subject: RE: cutting a section and pasting it somewhere else in a > recording > > > > J. > > > > Whilst I'm sure that this approach would certainly be fruitful, it > > is > hardly > > the kind of helpful advice that this list is about. I would suggest > > that > if > > you haven't got a more constructive suggestion, it's better not to > > say > > > anything. > > > > Yusuf, essentially the two operations are much the same. As you > > have > marked > > each article to start with a heading, You are wanting to use the > > "Cut Section" feature followed by the "Paste section". A section is > > the chunk > of > > audio between one heading and the next heading. It is very much > > like word processing in that you chop the audio from one place with > > the first action and then you go to where you want the section to be > > placed and carry out a paste operation. > > > > Step by step the operation is as follows: > > > > 1. Press the 5 key to go into the menu system > > 2. Press Enter or the 8 key to go into the Edit menu > > 3. Press the 4 or 6 key until you are on "Cut Section" and press > > Enter to select it. 4. You will now be asked to select the starting > > section and end section > to > > cut. Do this using the 4 or 6 keys and press Enter after you have > specified > > each > > 5. When asked to do so, press Enter to confirm the cut operation. > > > > Once you have cut the correct sections from your recording, you need > > to do the paste operation. Do this as follows: > > > > 1. Use your 4 or 6 keys to select the position where you want to > > insert your section or sections that you have just cut. 2. Press > > the 5 key to enter the menu 3. Press Enter to select the Edit menu > > 4. Press 4 or 6 keys to select the "Paste Section" operation and > press > > Enter to select this operation. > > 5. Use 4 or 6 keys to confirm that you are in the correct position > where > > you want to paste the sections. The last spoken section will end up > > following the pasted sections when the operation is complete. 6. > > Press Enter when you are sure that you are at the correct > location. > > 7. When asked to, press Enter to confirm the operation. > > > > > > This should mean that your sections are re-ordered in the correct > positions. > > Once you have completed the process, you would be wise to double > > check > that > > things are where they should be. Remember you can always use the > > "Undo Previous Editing" command if you think you have messed it up. > > > > I think that doing this from a CD to a card is the same method but I > > don't have a card so can't be absolutely sure. Perhaps someone out > > there can confirm or deny this. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > Jamie > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: J Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 01 September 2004 04:08 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: cutting a section and pasting it somewhere else in a > > recording > > > > > > Read the manual. > > J Garcia > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "yusuf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "plextalk email list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 2:34 AM > > Subject: cutting a section and pasting it somewhere else in a > recording > > > > > > > Hi all, I am using the latest updated version of the PTR1. Over > > > the last couple of months I have been recording various articles > > > from the Times newspaper on to a 1 GB PCMCIA card. Each new > > > article has a > > > > heading. Last week I accidentally recorded an article from the > > > 13th of February 1918 before the article from the 12th. I want to > > > cut the > > > > last article (the > one > > > from the 12th) and paste it before the article from the 13th. > > > > > > How do I do this? > > > > > > Secondly I have some articles on CD that I want to copy on to the > > > card before the first article on the card. > > > > > > How is this done? > > > > > > Cheers > > > Yusuf Osman. Owner of the trekker email list. 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