Amen, Carol!  Bless you!


On Fri, 3 Sep 2004, Kenbu wrote:

I whole heartedly agree Carol;  You put it  so cesinkl.  Excuse my spelling.
Well said;  Ken by
Only one life, 'twill soon be past;  Only what's done in Christ will last.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carol Pearson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 4:55 PM
Subject: RE: cutting a section and pasting it somewhere else in a recording


Hi there,

My name isn't Jamie, and I already have a reputation (probably) for
speaking out on this list, so I'll do it once more and maybe the
moderator will choose to throw me off!  <SMILE>

Whilst I appreciate where you're coming from with regard to people
reading manuals for themselves, Jamie has been very kind in giving a
straightforward answer to what is not necessarily too straightforward
from the manual.  (We all probably acknowledged the manual was not
written as well as we would have liked it to be.)  There are many good
folk around like Jamie who help on lists.  The kinds of people they help
are sometimes those who just come to grab what they can and go, and
there are others who never help anyone else, that is true!

However, there is another group which includes those who find it very
difficult to absorb manuals and whose learning ability, perhaps, is
below most on the group, but still they want to get the best out of
their equipment.  Don't they deserve help?  Then there's poor little me!
I would have been typical in years gone by of those who were well ahead
in access technology issues and needed little help, but some
occasionally.  There were days though when I'd been hard at work and
just needed some information and was either too tired or unable to find
what I needed at the time.  I was always thankful for the help given on
such occasions.  Now I, like others, have health problems which mean
that I have to take lots of medication which dulls my ability to
concentrate and sometimes I'm glad I don't have to remember too much
detail of what's gone on in various conversations during the day because
I probably couldn't recall it accurately enough.  Now, even if I don't
deserve the help after this message, perhaps others with similar
problems do warrant consideration.  Remember, you don't know everyone's
circumstances, just as we don't know yours - so lighten up, give
everyone a chance by helping where and when you can and we may all get
there!

Finally, if the list doesn't exist to meet the needs of the one who asks
the beginners' questions as well as those who talk about the advanced
stuff that some beginners don't have a clue about, then maybe some of us
need to get off the list and get some other kind of "life"!


-- Carol [EMAIL PROTECTED]



-----Original Message-----
From: J Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 02 September 2004 19:27
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: cutting a section and pasting it somewhere else in a
recording


Jaimie,

While I appreciate your gentle words, by answering simple questions you
are conditioning people to repeat their actions in the future and as a
result they will post more and more questions to easily resolved issues.
This means they will continue to do the same thing in the future and
people like you will take an hour of their lives to answer someone's
question who was too lazy to take 10 minutes to look it up themselves.
Whether you are aware of it or not they benefit and you lose. If this
person actually made an attempt to look up a solution they not only
would learn the process themselves making it faster the next time, but
they will also learn many other things in their search for an answer.
I've seen many people like this send the same question to up to 10
different lists because they know the more people they contact the
higher the likelihood of the response. Like my learning theory professor
tells his classes: "I will not reinforce laziness." I don't think many
of the knowledgeable people on this list should support this behavior
either.

J Garcia
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 1:55 AM
Subject: RE: cutting a section and pasting it somewhere else in a
recording


J.

Whilst I'm sure that this approach would certainly be fruitful, it is
hardly
the kind of helpful advice that this list is about.  I would suggest
that
if
you haven't got a more constructive suggestion, it's better not to say

anything.

Yusuf, essentially the two operations are much the same. As you have
marked
each article to start with a heading, You are wanting to use the "Cut
Section" feature followed by the "Paste section".  A section is the
chunk
of
audio between one heading and the next heading.  It is very much like
word processing in that you chop the audio from one place with the
first action and then you go to where you want the section to be
placed and carry out a paste operation.

Step by step the operation is as follows:

1.  Press the 5 key to go into the menu system
2.  Press Enter or the 8 key to go into the Edit menu
3.  Press the 4 or 6 key until you are on "Cut Section" and press
Enter to select it. 4.  You will now be asked to select the starting
section and end section
to
cut. Do this using the 4 or 6 keys and press Enter after you have
specified
each
5.  When asked to do so, press Enter to confirm the cut operation.

Once you have cut the correct sections from your recording, you need
to do the paste operation.  Do this as follows:

1.  Use your 4 or 6 keys to select the position where you want to
insert your section or sections that you have just cut. 2.  Press the
5 key to enter the menu 3.  Press Enter to select the Edit menu
4.  Press 4 or 6 keys to select the "Paste Section" operation and
press
Enter to select this operation.
5.  Use 4 or 6 keys to confirm that you are in the correct position
where
you want to paste the sections.  The last spoken section will end up
following the pasted sections when the operation is complete.
6.  Press Enter when you are sure that you are at the correct
location.
7.  When asked to, press Enter to confirm the operation.


This should mean that your sections are re-ordered in the correct
positions.
Once you have completed the process, you would be wise to double check
that
things are where they should be.  Remember you can always use the
"Undo Previous Editing" command if you think you have messed it up.

I think that doing this from a CD to a card is the same method but I
don't have a card so can't be absolutely sure.  Perhaps someone out
there can confirm or deny this.

Hope this helps.

Jamie




-----Original Message----- From: J Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 September 2004 04:08 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: cutting a section and pasting it somewhere else in a recording


Read the manual. J Garcia ----- Original Message ----- From: "yusuf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "plextalk email list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 2:34 AM Subject: cutting a section and pasting it somewhere else in a
recording


Hi all, I am using the latest updated version of the PTR1. Over the
last couple of months I have been recording various articles from
the Times newspaper on to a 1 GB PCMCIA card. Each new article has a

heading. Last week I accidentally recorded an article from the 13th
of February 1918 before the article from the 12th. I want to cut the

last article (the
one
from the 12th) and paste it before the article from the 13th.

How do I do this?

Secondly I have some articles on CD that I want to copy on to the
card before the first article on the card.

How is this done?

Cheers
Yusuf Osman. Owner of the trekker email list. To subscribe send a
blank email to

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