Would it be reasonable to use  http://schema.rdfs.org rather than
http://schema.org in the URIs? Essentially mirror what one might hope
for schema.org to become. Then if it does become that, link the two
together?

I would not exclude the possibility that Schema.org will, sooner or later, serve other representations than HTML from their URIs. In this sense, I'd opt for keeping the original URIs. However, I agree - for now, I'd like to focus on the part that you call 'mirror what one might hope for schema.org to become'. Fancy contributing, Patrick? ;)

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On 7 Jun 2011, at 17:49, Patrick Logan wrote:

Would it be reasonable to use  http://schema.rdfs.org rather than
http://schema.org in the URIs? Essentially mirror what one might hope
for schema.org to become. Then if it does become that, link the two
together?


On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 1:22 AM, Michael Hausenblas
<michael.hausenb...@deri.org> wrote:
Something I don't understand. If I read well all savvy discussions so far, publishers behind http://schema.org URIs are unlikely to ever provide any
RDF description,

What makes you so sure about that not one day in the (near?) future the Schema.org URIs will serve RDF or JSON, FWIW, additionally to HTML? ;)

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On 7 Jun 2011, at 08:44, Bernard Vatant wrote:

Hi all

Something I don't understand. If I read well all savvy discussions so far, publishers behind http://schema.org URIs are unlikely to ever provide any RDF description, so why are those URIs declared as identifiers of RDFS
classes in the http://schema.rdfs.org/all.rdf. For all I can see,
http://schema.org/Person is the URI of an information resource, not of a
class.
So I would rather have expected mirroring of the schema.org URIs by
schema.rdfs.org URIs, the later fully dereferencable proper RDFS classes expliciting the semantics of the former, while keeping the reference to the
source in some dcterms:source element.

Example, instead of ...

<rdf:Description rdf:about="http://schema.org/Person";>
<rdf:type rdf:resource="http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf- schema#Class"/>
<rdfs:label xml:lang="en">Person</rdfs:label>
<rdfs:comment xml:lang="en">A person (alive, dead, undead, or
fictional).</rdfs:comment>
<rdfs:subClassOf rdf:resource="http://schema.org/Thing"/>
<rdfs:isDefinedBy rdf:resource="http://schema.org/Person"/>
</rdf:Description>

where I see a clear abuse of rdfs:isDefinedBy, since if you dereference
the said URI, you don't find any explicit RDF definition ...

I would rather have the following

<rdf:Description rdf:about="http://schema.rdfs.org/Person";>
<rdf:type rdf:resource="http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf- schema#Class"/>
<rdfs:label xml:lang="en">Person</rdfs:label>
<rdfs:comment xml:lang="en">A person (alive, dead, undead, or
fictional).</rdfs:comment>
<rdfs:subClassOf rdf:resource="http://schema.rdfs.org/Thing"/>
<dcterms:source rdf:resource="http://schema.org/Person"/>
</rdf:Description>

To the latter declaration, one could safely add statements like

schema.rdfs:Person rdfs:subClassOf  foaf:Person

etc

Or do I miss the point?

Bernard

2011/6/3 Michael Hausenblas <michael.hausenb...@deri.org>

http://schema.rdfs.org

... is now available - we're sorry for the delay ;)

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      Michael
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