On 4/30/13 12:51 PM, Luca Matteis wrote:
Hi Tom,

Yes I have been discussing with Stéphane as well. Hopefully we can get things going.

About the willingness to participate, if we make the system open enough (but with spam control) then we really don't need to be setting goals about the community's willingness to participate. It will create a spontaneous collaborative environment.

That's why I favor a wiki system. But Drupal works very similarly to wikis, right? So no need to change the technology. Just more open and user-friendly signup system is enough for now.

Luca

All,

Circa. 2013 we have Web Access Controls and verifiable Identity that scales to the Web. Basically, these are applications of the very technology we are encouraging the world to explore and implement. If we don't use these technologies ourselves why should be in any position to ask others to use this technology.

Here's what we have:

1. WebID -- HTTP URI that denotes Agents

2. WebID Profile Document -- the content of this document describes an entity denoted by a WebID

3. An X.509 Certificate that includes a WebID in its Subject Alternative Name slot -- this is for all intents and purposes a local profile graph installed to a secure location on your machine, alongside an associated private key that's paired with said certificate's public key

4. WebID+TLS -- uses RDF based entity relationship semantics and PKI to authenticate a WebID

5. Web Access Control Ontology -- describes resource access controls.

How do you make it work hassle free?

1. Get a WebID from an WebID Identity Provider -- there are several (a WebID supporting IdP will take the tedium out of steps 1-4 above) 2. Use a content management system that supports resource access controls based on the combined use of a WebID and the Web Access Control Ontology -- there are a number of these around.

Tom: you know how to get a hold of me, so lets get this domain back to what we aspired it would be circa. 2007 in Banff :-)

Links:

1. http://www.w3.org/wiki/WebID -- WebID Information Portal
2. http://id.myopenlink.net/certgen -- simple WebID generator
3. http://id.myopenlink.net/ods/webid_demo.html -- simple WebID verifier
2. http://www.w3.org/wiki/WebAccessControl  -- Web Access Controls.


Kingsley

On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Tom Heath <tom.he...@theodi.org <mailto:tom.he...@theodi.org>> wrote:

    Hi Yury, Luca, all,

    There's a separate, off-list thread going on at the moment with
    Stéphane Corlosquet, who has offered to help maintain the site (and
    now has admin rights) -- thanks Stéphane!

    You're right, the site is very stale. As I've said many times before,
    I'm open to any suggestions about how to use the domain for the
    greatest benefit of the community. So, all ideas welcomed, though they
    have to include a willingness to participate and a plan for how to
    actually get the work done on an ongoing basis. As history shows I'm
    too busy right now to participate regularly :(

    Cheers,

    Tom.


    On 30 April 2013 14:28, Yury Katkov <katkov.ju...@gmail.com
    <mailto:katkov.ju...@gmail.com>> wrote:
    > It seems like the website is abandoned. It's strange that the
    diagram is not
    > developing as well: it is the most common Power Point slide in every
    > Semantic Web-related presentation :)
    > -----
    > Yury Katkov, WikiVote
    >
    >
    >
    > On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Luca Matteis
    <lmatt...@gmail.com <mailto:lmatt...@gmail.com>> wrote:
    >>
    >> Hello,
    >>
    >> I was wondering if we could make http://linkeddata.org/ a bit
    more open &
    >> community friendly. Currently I find its contents a bit
    outdated. For
    >> example, the Research page only contains content from 2009. I
    think a
    >> "Community" page is missing where we could have links to G+,
    Twitter and IRC
    >> communities. Also we could have a page for Meetups and
    conferences around
    >> LOD.
    >>
    >> I find the OpenID log in to be a bit unfriendly. There's many
    people who
    >> have never heard of this technology, and it is a bit
    overwhelming to have to
    >> copy & paste an OpenID url in order to log in to the website.
    >>
    >> Tom Heath seems to be the administrator, so perhaps we can
    discuss about a
    >> better Wiki system for the site? Maybe Semantic Wiki ;)?
    >>
    >> Let me know what you think!
    >>
    >> Luca
    >
    >



    --
    Dr Tom Heath
    Data Scientist
    Open Data Institute
    http://theodi.org/




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