On 6/19/13 10:47 PM, Young,Jeff (OR) wrote:
My impression is that Kingsley is arguing that triples is triples. Concrete syntax is irrelevant, even if those triples are barely recognizable by naive agents. If that's what he's saying, I would agree. Converting barely recognizable triples into a standard form is a trivial process.
Yes, that's my point. It's why I say that RDF didn't invent the Triple.I've posted a document denoted with the URI/URL <http://kingsley.idehen.net/DAV/home/kidehen/Public/DropBox/Public/Linked%20Data%20Resources/linked-data-rdf-test2.ttl> in defense of my claim :-)
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Jeff ________________________________________ From: David Booth Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:20:49 PM To: Young,Jeff (OR) Cc: Luca Matteis; Kingsley Idehen; Linked Data community Subject: Re: Proof: Linked Data does not require RDF Hi Jeff, I guess I could have said *concrete*-syntax-independent to be more precise -- to distinguish it from the *abstract* syntax (or model) -- but "serialization-independent" works too. Or "format-independent". David On 06/19/2013 09:55 PM, Young,Jeff (OR) wrote:David, I think you've confused syntax-independence with serialization-independence. RDF is syntax-dependent. The syntax is triples. OTOH, triple syntax can be serialized in a wide variety of ways. Jeff-----Original Message----- From: David Booth [mailto:da...@dbooth.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 9:42 PM To: Luca Matteis Cc: Kingsley Idehen; Linked Data community Subject: Re: Proof: Linked Data does not require RDFCan you please then setup a pool asking "Does creating and publishing Linked Data require knowledge of RDF?"I would be willing to make such a poll if it seemed that people wanted it, but I don't think it is necessary. There are *many* document formats that can carry RDF, and it seems self-evident that someone who publishes an RDF-interpretable format like JSON-LD or (GRDDL-enabled) XML may not understand RDF **at all**. This is one of the great benefits of RDF being syntax independent. The JSON-LD group understood this very well and did a great job crafting the JSON-LD spec to ensure that web developers would *not* have to understand RDF in order to happily publish their JSON-LD. If the data is *interpretable* as RDF, then who cares whether the publisher understood RDF? It seems irrelevant to me. David
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