Shelley Powers wrote:

On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net <mailto:ru...@intertwingly.net>> wrote:

    Shelley Powers wrote:


        On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Anne van Kesteren
        <ann...@opera.com <mailto:ann...@opera.com>
        <mailto:ann...@opera.com <mailto:ann...@opera.com>>> wrote:

           On Thu, 28 May 2009 15:18:11 +0200, Shelley Powers
           <shelley.j...@gmail.com <mailto:shelley.j...@gmail.com>
        <mailto:shelley.j...@gmail.com <mailto:shelley.j...@gmail.com>>>
        wrote:
            > In fact, that's my biggest concern: that discussions
        should occur
            > directly between RDFa and HTML5 folks are not happening,
           happening offline, or
            > snarkily, in IRC (
            >
http://lastweekinhtml5.blogspot.com/2009/05/rdfa-guys-wake-up-and-smell-pilgrims.html).

           What do you mean? At least Sam Ruby and Philip Taylor are
        debating
           the technical issues with the RDFa crowd right on this
        mailing list.

        I meant exactly what I said: it would have been helpful to have
        folks who have implemented RDFa libraries in JS participating,
        because they will have the best understanding of the issues.
        That's not a condemnation of the folks, just an observation that
        the discussion isn't as inclusive as it need be.

    The most I can do is make *this* place hospitable.  If there are
    issues that are preventing others from participating here, I ask
    that Chris and I be informed as to what these issues (either on-list
    or off-list) are and I am committed to resolving them.

    I hope that the folks that have implemented RDFa libraries in JS do
    chose to participate when they are ready.

    - Sam Ruby

Actually Sam, these emails are cross posting between RDFa in XHTML TF and the HTML WG. My wistful hope was directed more as a hint to the folks on the RDFa side. I can understand if they choose not to participate. I'll be disappointed, but I can understand.

My other comments were directed more at the HTML WG et al side, but saying them will solve nothing. People will act directly, and positively, or they won't.

I wasn't going to comment on it, but since you have been pushing it: I would like to hold everybody to the same standard.

"incorporating a negative emotional tone in a writing can be an eff, even pos, tool"

http://twitter.com/burningbird/status/1848643851

"Or you could be like me, and slather it on, like bar-b-que sauce on a roasting pig. The sweet, spicy kind."

http://twitter.com/burningbird/status/1851027745

The most I can do is make *this* place hospitable. Yes, people will be snarky at times. I simply ask that they do so elsewhere. On that note, I have no quibble with you.

Shelley

- Sam Ruby


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