Thanks Danny for helping these threads find each other.

I had a long conversation with Sean B. Palmer on the topic on #swig, of which I highlighted some elements here

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/semantic-web/2006Jul/0066.html

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Is it really "Semantic" content neg that we want? That is only part of the problem.
Imagine I only understand the atomOwl vocab [1] and I expect this

<> a :CategoryList;
   :category [ :scheme <http://eg.com/cats/>;
               :term "dog" ];
   :category [ :scheme <http://eg.com/cats/>;
               :term "house" ].

but I receive this


<> a :McDonaldCategoryList;
   :McCategory [ :McScheme <http://eg.com/cats/>;
               :McTerm "dog" ];
   :McCategory [ :McScheme <http://eg.com/cats/>;
               :McTerm "house" ].


Where  in fact

        :McDonaldCategoryList owl:sameAs :CategoryList .
        :McCategory owl:sameAs :category .
        :McScheme owl:sameAs :scheme .
        :McTerm owl:sameAs :term .

In  that case both documents are in fact semantically identical.

So what one wants is either

- a way to specify the *vocabulary* the client understands, and have the sender send back content only in that vocabulary, or at least add some mappings from its vocab to the one understood by the client. - or way to specify in detail the relations that will appear in a document and the vocabulary used to describe those relations, so that by stating that a resource is say a foaf:PersonalProfileDocument, one not only knows what types of relations one will find in there, but also that one will be able to interpret them.


        Henry

[1] http://bblfish.net/work/atom-owl/2006-06-06/



On 24 Jul 2006, at 11:39, Danny Ayers wrote:
Oops, I was a couple of posts out in the first link, should be a
little less baffling with this one:

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-semweb-lifesci/2006Jul/ 0139.html

(thanks Henry!)

On 7/24/06, Danny Ayers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Seems to be a little thread convergence going on. Gmail doesn't seem
to allow in-reply-to on two posts, so instead:

Re: BioRDF: URI Best Practices
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-semweb-lifesci/2006Jul/ 0141.html

Re: expectations of vocabulary
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/semantic-web/2006Jul/0068.html

[I've at least one ulterior motive in wanting to see this discussion
evolve further. When I get time I want to play with the idea of
"semantic cookies" - put the URI of the agent-user's FOAF profile in a
Link: header, server adjusts response appropriately]

Cheers,
Danny.

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