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Subject: Re: A question on the
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Kei
You
raised a good point here.
Indeed,
person can have multiple roles in a given organization or scenario. Capturing
this multiplicity in the "person" ontology should not be a problem -
you simply add a triple for each role the person assumes.
These
roles are likely to change over time, as you point out in your email. Such
changes should not be a problem, just as one might change their home
addresses. As with your home address, you can add
"effectiveUntil" and "effecitiveOn" to specify the valid
period of this information. In addition, a role is only meaningful within
a scope. In HL7, it uses "scopedRole" and
"playedRole" to set this context. This, too, can be modelled in
ontology.
My
problem is with the so-called "participation". Participation is
similar to "role" but might change in each episode. For
example, Dr. K is a chest specialist (Role) in hospital A. He is sick
today and is treated at hospital A. So in such
"patient-encounter" episode, he is a patient (Participation).
I
am not sure if the person ontology should concern such transitional concepts.
Helen
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Re: A question on the vocabulary for
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Hi Marco et al.,
It is also possible that a person can have
multiple roles (e.g.,
researcher and teacher). Are there standard
vocabularies that we can use
to describe roles, for example? There might be a
temporal aspect as
well. For example, a person at one point was a
postdoc but later became
a professor. If this is taken into account, we can
ask questions like
what is the most recent role(s) a person has. This
may somewhat relates
to how we should model a paitent/subject involved
in a longitudinal
studies. Besides relations (how persons relate to
each other), we might
also want to think about how persons are grouped
for different
basic/clinical research purposes. For examples,
panels vs. cohorts,
population samples vs. pedigrees, etc... This
might have been
thought/discussed about by other people. I may
just reignite such
thought and discussion.
Cheers,
-Kei
Marco Brandizi wrote:
>
> kei cheung wrote:
>
>> Based on my limited experience, a person
in the life science and
>> healthcare context can be considered as a
subject or patient (which
>> can be a subclass of person). Of course,
there are other roles a
>> person can play (e.g., doctors,
researchers, and authors). For
>> genetic studies, a group of
subjects/indviduals may be a
>> family/pedigree. In this case,
relationships among these family
>> members may include Father_of, Mother_of,
Child_of, etc. Other types
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> Hi Kei,
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> In addition, I think there is another side as
well: science community
> people, having a role (student, teacher,
director of), relations with
> fields of study ( immunologist, studies TLR signalling),
relations with
> events and scientific production ( has
published, has organized
> conference ), relations with other people (
works with, supervisor of,
> ... ).
>
> I vaguely remember at least one similar case
of ontology, does anyone
> have further details?
>
> Cheers.
>
